Need help (support) after "a long winter"...

[jlcarneiro]

Hello, guys!

I'm back after almost TWO YEARS away (real life can be kind of a poodle sometimes) and, after some lengthy mod updates (is there a linux version of CKAN now?! WOW, I must test it!), my KSP keeps freezing periodically (haven't clocked it yet, though).

Tried to find out which mod was the culprit but was unsuccessful... I decided to be "extreme", I removed ALL THE MODS but the freezing kept happening(!) and I don't remember how to debug KSP...

Initially, I thought the problem was in the maps (or in the observatory) but later I noticed it even happens in the VAB!

Ah! Here are the links to Player.log:

• Filebin.net
• Fastupload.io

Can someone help me? Like "like I’m a 4-year-old"....

Edited May 4 by jlcarneiro

[HebaruSan]

6 hours ago, jlcarneiro said:

(is there a linux version of CKAN now?! WOW, I must test it!)

There has only ever been one version of CKAN at a time, which always worked on Linux back to the earliest releases.

[jlcarneiro]

36 minutes ago, HebaruSan said:

There has only ever been one version of CKAN at a time, which always worked on Linux back to the earliest releases.

Didn't know that, thanks! Maybe I noticed it now because it (seems) do be in .deb format. I'll try it later.

Unfortunately, now, even without mods my KSP freezes for a few seconds every couple minutes...

[jlcarneiro]

Hello, again!

Today I checked file integrity (via Steam) without mods, but KSP keeps freezing from time to time (aproximately 20s every 5min). Here is the latest Player.log:

Fastupload.io

It feels like garbage collecting. Is there any known issues about it?

Any suggestions is very welcome! ;-)

Edited May 7 by jlcarneiro

[Geonovast]

System specs?

The only thing the log shows is that you have a GTX 1050... and not even the Ti version.  Just strictly guessing off of your GPU, I'm assuming your CPU is fairly underpowered for KSP and you're probably struggling with a very small amount of RAM.

(Would also be helpful if you supplied the KSP.log)

[jlcarneiro]

11 hours ago, Geonovast said:

System specs?

The only thing the log shows is that you have a GTX 1050... and not even the Ti version.  Just strictly guessing off of your GPU, I'm assuming your CPU is fairly underpowered for KSP and you're probably struggling with a very small amount of RAM.

(Would also be helpful if you supplied the KSP.log)

Firstly, thanks for your response!

About my specs:

• i5 (8th Gen);
• 16Gb RAM
• nVidia GeForce GTX 1050  - 6Gb
• Ubuntu 20.04

Now, sorry to not include KSP.log, I looked for instructions on HOW to ask for help (it's been a long time, my memory failed) and read that I should only upload Player.log. I'll upload both (on Fastupload.io):

• Player.log
• KSP.log

Thanks once again!

[Shammyofwar]

Try doing a mem test when u 1st boot Ubuntu , also you need to either properly uninstall mods or reinstall them as they are throwing a bunch of errors .Also reinstall graphics drivers.  I suspect a memory issue, do you have any issues doing anything else on the PC?

[jlcarneiro]

45 minutes ago, Shammyofwar said:

Try doing a mem test when u 1st boot Ubuntu , also you need to either properly uninstall mods or reinstall them as they are throwing a bunch of errors .Also reinstall graphics drivers.  I suspect a memory issue, do you have any issues doing anything else on the PC?

Thanks for your response!

The logs still have mod related errors?! I deleted all mods from Gamedata! Can you point me how to identify those mods?

About the graphic drivers, I use Nvidia's proprietary ones. Before they were from the repositories, now unfortunately they are flatpak. Apart from that, they seem to run fine.

And no, as far as can tell, I have no problems with other tasks on this machine.

Since you suspect something with them, could you please help me test the graphic drivers and memory? What commands should I use?

Edited May 9 by jlcarneiro

[Shammyofwar]

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Cannot find a Module of typename 'DMScienceScenario'

[ERR 10:46:26.202] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.202] Cannot find a Module of typename 'KRASHPersistent'

[ERR 10:46:26.202] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.202] Cannot find a Module of typename 'KerbalConstructionTimeData'

[ERR 10:46:26.202] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.202] Cannot find a Module of typename 'HallOfFameScenarioModule'

[ERR 10:46:26.202] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.202] Cannot find a Module of typename 'UPFMData'

[ERR 10:46:26.202] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.202] Cannot find a Module of typename 'OSPScenario'

[ERR 10:46:26.202] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.202] Cannot find a Module of typename 'UnloadedResources'

[ERR 10:46:26.203] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.203] Cannot find a Module of typename 'DeepFreeze'

[ERR 10:46:26.203] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.203] Cannot find a Module of typename 'ScrapYard'

[ERR 10:46:26.203] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.203] Cannot find a Module of typename 'StnSciScenario'

[ERR 10:46:26.203] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.203] Cannot find a Module of typename 'Trajectories'

[ERR 10:46:26.203] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.203] Cannot find a Module of typename 'SnacksScenario'

[ERR 10:46:26.203] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.203] Cannot find a Module of typename 'BonVoyageScenario'

[ERR 10:46:26.203] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.203] Cannot find a Module of typename 'RmmScenario'

[ERR 10:46:26.203] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:46:26.203] Cannot find a Module of typename 'Data'

[ERR 10:46:26.203] ScenarioModule is null.

and 

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[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'CrewRandRSettings'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'DMScienceScenario'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'KRASHPersistent'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'KerbalConstructionTimeData'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'HallOfFameScenarioModule'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'OSPScenario'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'PlanetInfoScenario'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'UnloadedResources'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'DeepFreeze'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'ScrapYard'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'StnSciScenario'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'TRScenario'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'Tracking_Persistence'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'SnacksScenario'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'BonVoyageScenario'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

[ERR 10:51:17.431] Cannot find a Module of typename 'RmmScenario'

[ERR 10:51:17.431] ScenarioModule is null.

#1 . I would start with a fresh install of KSP with no mods.

if you still have issues then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MemoryTest#:~:text=Turn On or Restart the,%2C memtest86%2B%2C if one exists.&text=Allow the test to run,and view the report results.   and https://www.cyberciti.biz/open-source/command-line-hacks/linux-gpu-monitoring-and-diagnostic-commands/

if it does work fine use https://github.com/KSP-CKAN/CKAN/releases  for mod install uninstalls to avoid issues in the future with 16G of ram I suspect you should be able to run KSP with some mods without issues just don't go mod heavy. Your GPU isn't the strongest at  https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Nvidia-GTX-1050/Rating/3650 so don't try to run high graphics -hope this helps

BTW my good PC dies I am using a crap  bu from my closet

Core I5 4750 

10g ram

RX580 8g 

with Linux Mint I am running  

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Waterfall, TrekDrive 1.05 , Scifi Shipyards Redux 0.6 , and Galaxies unbound stellar adventures and still get 60fps (restricted by settings) at 4k res -so  that is why I suspect a system issue with your system

Edited May 9 by Shammyofwar

[jlcarneiro]

8 hours ago, Shammyofwar said:

and 

#1 . I would start with a fresh install of KSP with no mods.

---- snip ---

Thank you for your help! I am a bit busy right now, but I'll try your suggestions ASAP and will give some feedback.

Thanks!

[jlcarneiro]

On 5/9/2024 at 3:31 AM, Shammyofwar said:

--- snip ---

Hello, @Shammyofwar! At last I could test your suggestions!

Based on what you said, I decided to DELETE the whole KSP directory and start over...

Good news are: it runs smoothly, thanks! I searched the log files and found NO "ERR" strings and only TWO "ERROR" strings (below):

ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/jlcarneiro/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/jlcarneiro/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.

Do you know what they mean?

I'll upload the two log files (KSP and Player). Maybe any of you can see something I didn't...

• KSP.log
• Player.log

[Gargamel]

Moved to tech support modded 

[Shammyofwar]

13 hours ago, jlcarneiro said:

Hello, @Shammyofwar! At last I could test your suggestions!

Based on what you said, I decided to DELETE the whole KSP directory and start over...

Good news are: it runs smoothly, thanks! I searched the log files and found NO "ERR" strings and only TWO "ERROR" strings (below):

ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/jlcarneiro/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/jlcarneiro/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.

Do you know what they mean?

I'll upload the two log files (KSP and Player). Maybe any of you can see something I didn't...

• KSP.log
• Player.log

Steam game overlay can't be loaded -I wouldn't  concern myself with it, and KSP is ignoring it too

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 ignored.

 

[jlcarneiro]

Thanks once again, @Shammyofwar!

Since it worked fine WITHOUT mods (and I discovered CKAN for Linux, yay!), I decided to use it. I labelled all the mods I current use as "favorites" and asked it to install them.

I worked very nicely but I think I'm not using it correctly since mods like Bureaucracy (that I've never used) were installed.

Even so, KSP ran nicely. So, instead of reselecting mods in CKAN, I deleted all of them AGAIN and copied my old mods (properly manually updated, of course) and it RAN FINE AGAIN!

So I'd like to THANK YOU ALL for your help about the freezing!

And ask, is it possible to make CKAN "import" all my current mods e update them from now on? I saw an "Import" option but it requests ZIP files... The online manual says to "upgrade" them, but I can't find this option...

What am I not seeing?

[HebaruSan]

4 hours ago, jlcarneiro said:

And ask, is it possible to make CKAN "import" all my current mods e update them from now on? I saw an "Import" option but it requests ZIP files... The online manual says to "upgrade" them, but I can't find this option...

What am I not seeing?

Some, but not all*, manually installed mods can be autodetected as installed by CKAN. If this happens, an "Update" column appears with checkboxes for each such mod:

Checking those checkboxes (you can click "Update all" in the toolbar to check them all in one click) and then clicking Apply will cause CKAN to install those mods, overwriting the existing files.

* The criterion for auto-detection is the presence of a DLL with a filename matching the identifier used for the mod in CKAN. Unfortunately, there are many mods which do not satisfy this, either due to not having any DLLs, or a mismatch between the DLL name and the identifier. You will have to find those in CKAN yourself.