Sugoi Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 WordsI had the exact problem you had; I accidentally installed a .dll that wasn't the newest version and it hung up on jet pods like you mentioned. Removing them just made it hang on other parts, so replacing Firespitter.dll might solve your problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king224 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I had the exact problem you had; I accidentally installed a .dll that wasn't the newest version and it hung up on jet pods like you mentioned. Removing them just made it hang on other parts, so replacing Firespitter.dll might solve your problemsThem Words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king224 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) What do you mean "stuck on the jet pods"? It seizes when trying to load the models when loading the game? When you try to select them in the VAB/SPH? When present on a ship in-flight? Straight up seizing isn't normal, and I've run every B9 engine on 0.23 so far without issues. Did you update the other plugins (Firespitter and Exsurgent Engineering)? Did you apply the SABRE fix called out in this thread a few pages back? Do you have other mods installed that could be causing some kind of conflict?Check the logs. When the crash happens, alt-tab out and check %KSP_ROOT%/KSP_Data/output_log.txt, and %KSP_ROOT%/KSP.logMaybe there will be something in there that can clue you in to what's happening when it crashes.Yes, the game would just seize mid-load until i came back to it a couple hours later to end the task. and it wasn't crashing, so there would be no log. i'll be trying the plug-in updates now, i'll let you know if/when it works. EDIT: i haven't tried the updates yet, but having compared my gamedata folder with the B9 .zip, i noticed the the entire Firespitter subfolder was missing, not sure if that's what could be causing it, but the more you know... EDIT x2: running the test with the updated plugins. Test was semi-successful. it went farther than the jet pods this time. but got stuck at a B9 RCS port Edited January 18, 2014 by king224 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugoi Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Them Words.Yeah, I didn't make myself too clear there. I removed the ExsurgentEngineering.dll to try and replicate your current problem, but KSP didn't hang on the RCS block, so I don't know what the ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novanuk Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'm having this same issue of not being able to make it past jet engine loading. Going to mess around with it for a bit to see if i can get it to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konnor Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Hanging during load (or actually crashing: there is usually a window with error message though not visible until switching) is most likely an Active Texture Management v.2-10+ issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castun Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Depends, sometimes crashing while loading can be caused by running out of RAM when trying to use too many parts mods.Also, trying to nail down an issue here, my log is getting spammed by this, and I'm not sure if it's caused by something in B9 or what:[LOG 23:00:51.102] CerberusEngineController.FixedUpdate[LOG 23:00:51.108] CerberusEngineController.FixedUpdate[LOG 23:00:51.113] CerberusEngineController.FixedUpdate[LOG 23:00:51.128] CerberusEngineController.Update[LOG 23:00:51.132] CerberusEngineController.LateUpdate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landeTLS Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Depends, sometimes crashing while loading can be caused by running out of RAM when trying to use too many parts mods.Also, trying to nail down an issue here, my log is getting spammed by this, and I'm not sure if it's caused by something in B9 or what:[LOG 23:00:51.102] CerberusEngineController.FixedUpdate[LOG 23:00:51.108] CerberusEngineController.FixedUpdate[LOG 23:00:51.113] CerberusEngineController.FixedUpdate[LOG 23:00:51.128] CerberusEngineController.Update[LOG 23:00:51.132] CerberusEngineController.LateUpdateThis is a debug print from the exurgentengineering.dll. ee can cause the flightscene panning/camera control to lock up too. The current version of the dll is really buggy. Remove it and the sabres and youre good to go. You can put in some modified sabre cfg files that use squads multi engine module instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygroux Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Some B9 Parts aren't loading...While in career mode the following parts (among others) are not available in the VAB after their Required Tech has been unlocked/researched.(structural section)S2 LFO TankS2 Fuselage Wide Body LFO TankS2 Fuselage Wide Body 3.75m Adapter LFOS2 Fuselage Wide Body 4x1.25 Engine Mount LFOS2 Fuselage Wide Body 2x2.5 Engine Mount LFOS2 Fuselage Wide Body Fuselage Adapter LFOI have checked the part config files to double check I have unlocked the adequate Tech.I have removed, re-downloaded, and reinstalled the B9 package.I have DL'd and installed the latest Firespitter files.I have updated the ExurgentEngineering files.I'm using MechJeb, KW, Kethane, KAS, AIES, Wayland Corp wheels, Part Catalog, Remote Tech.Does anyone know of a way to help me? I'd really like to use these parts.[EDIT] Embarrassingly, I found the problem and it was user error. Thank you to Chris_W, where ever you are, for helping me to figure it out.I have the same problem, could you post your solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazierinzane Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Does Bac9 have a tumblr or twitter where he posts regularly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Alright I just downloaded the R4 pack from the mods site, and updated my .dll's as recommended earlier in the thread..now I'm seeing this:http://imgur.com/P3BZp0h.pngCan anyone help me troubleshoot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadweasel Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Alright I just downloaded the R4 pack from the mods site, and updated my .dll's as recommended earlier in the thread..now I'm seeing this:http://imgur.com/P3BZp0h.pngCan anyone help me troubleshoot?....wow.What else are you running beyond the B9 pack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likke_A_boss Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Alright I just downloaded the R4 pack from the mods site, and updated my .dll's as recommended earlier in the thread..now I'm seeing this:http://imgur.com/P3BZp0h.pngCan anyone help me troubleshoot?Your not alone. It happened for me when I had B9, and pre sited even on a vanilla fresh install, and I've got no replies.http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/65621-Graphical-Loading-Screen-Bug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Just thought I'd throw the ball out there. Is Bac still maintaining this? Or has being a dev at Squad kept him too occupied to deal with bugfixing, patching, and adding more stuff? The community demands this pack be updated, it's too popular. So is this pack at a point where a chance in the person maintaining it may be needed? or should it remain as is? Just brainstorming. Other opinions?-redacted- Edited January 18, 2014 by Captain Sierra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathsoul097 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 (edited) Okay, Sierra, you seem to have missed a few memos while you were away. I'll clear this up for you:1) Bac isnt a dev anymore. We dont know why, and frankly I dont mind. It's his business alone.2) Bac is still working on this, but it is taking a while, as there is a bunch of new epic parts coming, if Bac's pics are to be believed.3) The pack is mostly compatible with 0.23, all you just need to do is search back through the last few pages for links to the new ExsurgentEngineering.dll, and get the new firespitter.dll to get everything (Read as: Sabres and cargo bays) to work like you would expect. I also remember a MM config being posted a little while ago that made the control surfaces tweakeable.EDIT:Sees bug report: Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!? Edited January 18, 2014 by Deathsoul097 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Okay, Sierra, you have missed a few memos while you were away. I'll clear this up for you:Clearly! This is what I get for being gone for 5 frickin months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Universal and likke_A_boss --- have you tried installing the lo-res texture pack that comes with B9? Full-res B9 over vanilla was enough to give me a CTD, when I tried it with the current version, but the lower resolution mod fixed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likke_A_boss Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Universal and likke_A_boss --- have you tried installing the lo-res texture pack that comes with B9? Full-res B9 over vanilla was enough to give me a CTD, when I tried it with the current version, but the lower resolution mod fixed that.No, B9 was not the culprit, the problem persisted on a fresh vanilla version, as I stated in my previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castun Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Universal and likke_A_boss --- have you tried installing the lo-res texture pack that comes with B9? Full-res B9 over vanilla was enough to give me a CTD, when I tried it with the current version, but the lower resolution mod fixed that.Same here, either the RAM footprint of B9 got a lot bigger since .21 (last version I used before my little sabbatical) or the way KSP/Unity handles textures got borked again. Before, I was able to use several parts packs at once, and this was before the Active Texture Reducer mod came about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Same here, either the RAM footprint of B9 got a lot bigger since .21 (last version I used before my little sabbatical) or the way KSP/Unity handles textures got borked again. Before, I was able to use several parts packs at once, and this was before the Active Texture Reducer mod came about.Make that x3. I can't run B9 with hardly anything now, including my all important RLA stockalike. I used to be able to run it without reduction pack. .23 is so broken as far as graphical lagging. Oceans get worse with every update too.On top of that, the pile of new gynormous (if it isn't a word, it is now. ) parts looks like the memory footprint of this pack is gonna go even more through the roof with the next update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castun Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 After I came back and started using .23 for the first time, the ONLY parts pack I started out with was B9, because to me it's the most essential, on top of the HD Skybox & HD Kerbin textures from Universe Replacer. That alone meant I might be able to switch between vessels a few times before it hit the memory ceiling (~3.7GB in my case.) Before, I was able to use the updated KW Rocketry and some NovaPunch parts with no issue. Not anymore...but at least the texture reduction mod works well, though now even a craft with less than 100 parts can still physics lag (yellow MET timer) though don't know if that's caused by Universe Replacer, or the Texture Reduction mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Some solutions:Turn your physics delta time down in the settings.Get above 160km. Then the full-res water textures unload.For some reason, the oceans remain at the same resolution as if you had landed in it until you hit 160km altitude. On top of that, they are lag demons, getting worse every update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castun Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Yeah, most missions at Kerbin are @100KM orbit lol...might mess with the physics delta then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_O Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I've noticed a funny bug, when i place the b9 modular wings on an S2 widebody cargo bay they generate asymmetric lift. It only happens when they are placed horizontally though, angling them up or down seems to work properly. Its not just a display error because in flight the plane yaws massively. I have Far, b9, nova punch and another parts pack installed, is that the issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyGinger Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I hate to complain, but for some reason I try to launch with b9 installed I have issues. The game starts fine (after about 5 minutes), but the textures wont load, and when i try to load a save or make a new one it crashes the moment I hit okay. Any suggestions/help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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