Seria17hri11er Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I figured out my issue. I simply had to setup the stages and I got the dV data.However for the life of me I cannot figure out why I cannot launch a Stayputnik. I've read the tutorials and it seems really straight forward. Attach the unmanned command pod, add a battery and some antennas, fuel, rocket, and go. Not working. Engines will not fire. They fire fine with a manned command pod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightiesboi Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I figured out my issue. I simply had to setup the stages and I got the dV data.However for the life of me I cannot figure out why I cannot launch a Stayputnik. I've read the tutorials and it seems really straight forward. Attach the unmanned command pod, add a battery and some antennas, fuel, rocket, and go. Not working. Engines will not fire. They fire fine with a manned command pod.I am not a modder, just another player who appreciates the modders, but I would be happy to try to help. Since this probably isn't a Procedural Fairings issue (and you solved the issue you had), if you'd like to PM me and send me a list of the mods you are running, and screenshots of your Launchpad, and a craft file, I'll take a stab at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NihilRex Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I figured out my issue. I simply had to setup the stages and I got the dV data.However for the life of me I cannot figure out why I cannot launch a Stayputnik. I've read the tutorials and it seems really straight forward. Attach the unmanned command pod, add a battery and some antennas, fuel, rocket, and go. Not working. Engines will not fire. They fire fine with a manned command pod.Do you have RemoteTech installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Can you sort of use them as fairings for engines and engine clusters that don't have fairings?And um, I'm having a bit of trouble getting the fairing for the top payload to close up at the top, trying to figure that out.Edit: Well, the conic one isn't giving me a closed top, the egg shaped one is. Edited January 7, 2015 by smjjames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Can you sort of use them as fairings for engines and engine clusters that don't have fairings?And um, I'm having a bit of trouble getting the fairing for the top payload to close up at the top, trying to figure that out.Edit: Well, the conic one isn't giving me a closed top, the egg shaped one is.Yes, you can use Procedural Fairings to fair engines that don't have their own - or that you just don't like the built-in ones. I have used the inline fairing base when I want the lower stage to have its own probe core and science gear, all hidden in the fairing until separation. I've never used it to create an upper stage with, for instance, an aerospike. Hmm, I will have to try that. It should work fine, though it will require a little funky placement.Regarding your problem with open tops - What fairing base are you using? Also, a VAB screenshot might be helpful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Yes, you can use Procedural Fairings to fair engines that don't have their own - or that you just don't like the built-in ones. I have used the inline fairing base when I want the lower stage to have its own probe core and science gear, all hidden in the fairing until separation. I've never used it to create an upper stage with, for instance, an aerospike. Hmm, I will have to try that. It should work fine, though it will require a little funky placement.Regarding your problem with open tops - What fairing base are you using? Also, a VAB screenshot might be helpful...I was trying to use the interstage fairing adapter (the egg shaped fairing actually had a closed top with that part), but I got the conical one to have a closed top with the fairing base part. It was just me trying to figure out the fairing bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 I was trying to use the interstage fairing adapter (the egg shaped fairing actually had a closed top with that part), but I got the conical one to have a closed top with the fairing base part. It was just me trying to figure out the fairing bases.Yes, the Interstage Fairing Adapter is designed to have something on top of the fairings.I did successfully fly a ship with an upper stager powered by a single aerospike. I put the Interstage Fairing Adapter upside down, above a little tank and the aerospike. (It's worth noting that without something like a stack separator between the stages, all the fuel below the adapter and above the fairings will be pulled down to the lower stage, as it should.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddly Feelerino Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Everytime I launch I get the message "The following mods are outdated - KSPAPIExtensions". What gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowgan Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Everytime I launch I get the message "The following mods are outdated - KSPAPIExtensions". What gives?I don't know. But my guess is that your KSPAPIExtensions mod is outdated. What's your Procedural Fairings version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taniwha Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 probably outdated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theh5 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Hi, I can't get this mod to work. I have all the parts that this video show: But the blue lines does not appear nor does the Farings spawn to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddly Feelerino Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I have the very latest Procedural Fairings mod.... downloaded it yesterday off this page =/Are there mods which conflict?- - - Updated - - -I FOUND IT!There were 2 KSPAPIExtensions.dll in my game; one in Procedural Fairings, the other in my Gamedata/Near Future Propulsion folder.Derp - thanks anyways lads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taniwha Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 It sounds like NFP needs to be updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowgan Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Glad to know your issue is fixed. In the mean time, I still don't know which magic button makes the "- - - Updated - - -" term appear on those edited posts. You don't write it all manually, right? ... Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddly Feelerino Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Glad to know your issue is fixed. In the mean time, I still don't know which magic button makes the "- - - Updated - - -" term appear on those edited posts. You don't write it all manually, right? ... Right? I just tried to make a second post within a minute of the first one as far as I know..... Must automerge the posts and highlight it as "updated" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I just tried to make a second post within a minute of the first one as far as I know..... Must automerge the posts and highlight it as "updated" I've even seen it do it later than a minute. I'm not sure but I think it depends on how active you've been. I've had it happen to me even after an hour when I really REALLY wanted the post to stand alone. (it was an important update status for one of my mods) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowgan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Cool, thanks for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Tried using this for the first time, took me about 1/2 hour to figure it out.What are the fairings which do NOT have couplers used for? They were very confusing, i couldn't figure out how to make the fairings detach.Don't get me wrong, I love them, now that I have them working. It just took longer than I expected to figure it out.I also noticed that solar panels inside the fairing still receive sunlight. I guess the fairing is transparent :-) Edited January 9, 2015 by linuxgurugamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowgan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 @linuxgurugamer: The Fuselage Fairings (the ones under the "Structural" tab, who can't be jettisoned) are, like all the rest of the Procedural Fairings mod, just for cosmetics. Though the difference is, because they can't be detached, the most common use for them is to protect permanent parts of your ship which aren't intended to be exposed to the dangers of nothing vacuum.Regarding the solar panel still getting sunlight... Yes, that happens. I -think- this is a problem that goes beyond E-dog's power to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Tried using this for the first time, took me about 1/2 hour to figure it out.What are the fairings which do NOT have couplers used for? They were very confusing, i couldn't figure out how to make the fairings detach.Don't get me wrong, I love them, now that I have them working. It just took longer than I expected to figure it out.I also noticed that solar panels inside the fairing still receive sunlight. I guess the fairing is transparent :-)They're procedural fuselage parts. Even if it says fairing in it, it's still just fuselage. You use them if you want to create a plane fuselage that you can cram other parts inside of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 @linuxgurugamer: The Fuselage Fairings (the ones under the "Structural" tab, who can't be jettisoned) are, like all the rest of the Procedural Fairings mod, just for cosmetics. Though the difference is, because they can't be detached, the most common use for them is to protect permanent parts of your ship which aren't intended to be exposed to the dangers of nothing vacuum.Regarding the solar panel still getting sunlight... Yes, that happens. I -think- this is a problem that goes beyond E-dog's power to fix.Ah, I understand now. I actually was using a search in the VAB, so saw both types in the same window.I understand about the solar panel. I didn't know where the issue was, so wanted to make e-dog aware of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marce Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 *snip*like all the rest of the Procedural Fairings mod, just for cosmetics. *snip*For the record: no they aren't (at least the aerodynamic ones) if using FAR which everyone should do anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 For the record: no they aren't (at least the aerodynamic ones) if using FAR which everyone should do anyway. Other than for initially learning the game, I wouldn't recommend anyone play without FAR (or at least NEAR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowgan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 For the record: no they aren't (at least the aerodynamic ones) if using FAR which everyone should do anyway. I was afraid someone would point this out. You can also argue that they act as struts to hold the contents firmly inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainDreamer Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I was afraid someone would point this out. You can also argue that they act as struts to hold the contents firmly inside.How strong are the auto-struts? I was sending a veeery long payload and noticed that if I don't strut them all together and the top part to the fairing itself, it would start to wobble outside of the fairing and doing hell on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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