parts [1.10.x] SDHI Service Module System (V4.0.4 / 11 October 2020)

[Capt. Hunt]

why would you need those?  If you're using the avionics module without the service section, you don't need the fairings.

[Bit Fiddler]

unless you make the "service trunk" from other parts, and want this fairing to cover that setup, rather than use some procedural fairing thing.

[sumghai]

5 minutes ago, Bottle Rocketeer 500 said:

@sumghai Can you please add petal attachment points to the avionics module? 

1 minute ago, Capt. Hunt said:

why would you need those?  If you're using the avionics module without the service section, you don't need the fairings.

@Capt. Hunt is correct - the Avionics Ring is for people who want to build their own Service Module from scratch while still using the SDHI SMS Heat Shield, BPC and LES. If I added petal attachment points to the Ring, you might as well just use the Service Module itself.

@Bottle Rocketeer 500, what sort of vessel are you trying to build?

 

[Capt. Hunt]

TBH, it sounds like a Procedural Fairing is going to work better for that application anyway.  If you used the petals you would have to painstakingly match your module to the size of the existing service trunk.

[Bit Fiddler]

I do use procedural or stock fairings for this.... I was just saying this is why someone would want these on the avionics part as well.  maybe there is some case where these work better.  without seeing his craft we can't say what is better or worse.  

[Bottle Rocketeer 500]

@sumghai

The reason I want petal attachment points on the avionics ring is because I am making a mod which uses your spacecraft adapter, and also includes the petal parts, and the Avionics Ring is attached to a fuel tank, which is a 75% scale version of the x-200-16 fuel tank. The reason that I don't use the Service Module is because of how configurable the SM wold be when I use the Avionics Ring, which allows either an Apollo or Orion SM to be build using SDHI parts.

Edited June 25, 2017 by Bottle Rocketeer 500

[Starwaster]

3 hours ago, Bottle Rocketeer 500 said:

@sumghai

The reason I want petal attachment points on the avionics ring is because I am making a mod which uses your spacecraft adapter, and also includes the petal parts, and the Avionics Ring is attached to a fuel tank, which is a 75% scale version of the x-200-16 fuel tank. The reason that I don't use the Service Module is because of how configurable the SM wold be when I use the Avionics Ring, which allows either an Apollo or Orion SM to be build using SDHI parts.

What sort of configurability is the SDHI service module lacking that your other tank has?

[Bottle Rocketeer 500]

@Starwaster

You can change the size of my tank by extending it.

[sumghai]

6 hours ago, Bottle Rocketeer 500 said:

The reason I want petal attachment points on the avionics ring is because I am making a mod which uses your spacecraft adapter, and also includes the petal parts, and the Avionics Ring is attached to a fuel tank, which is a 75% scale version of the x-200-16 fuel tank.

This falls outside the original scope and intention of this add-on, so I'm going to have to reject your request.

You're better off making your own parts and models from scratch, rather than depending on re-purposed versions of SDHI SMS parts.

[notJebKerman]

@sumghai Are there any plans to add Interim Cryogenic Propulsion Stage (ICPS) or exploration upper stage to this mod? There are no stockalike mods that include it (yes, I know it's a part of SSTU, but that's too realistic for me...)

[sumghai]

21 hours ago, notJebKerman said:

@sumghai Are there any plans to add Interim Cryogenic Propulsion Stage (ICPS) or exploration upper stage to this mod?

No - the ICPS is outside the scope of this mod.

[Capt. Hunt]

there is a compatible ICPS in the Aerojet Kerbodyne mod.

[StarStreak2109]

3 hours ago, Capt. Hunt said:

there is a compatible ICPS in the Aerojet Kerbodyne mod.

Does that still work with 1.3?

[mostlydave]

3 hours ago, StarStreak2109 said:

Does that still work with 1.3?

No it does not, in its thread it looks like the author gave up on it

[WintericeUK]

I'm having a slight issue with PEBKAC and the SDHI BPC, when the BPC's "ABORT!" sequence is activated the BPC is detaching from the command module. Do I just need to make sure I remove the BPC from the abort sequence or is that going to foul up anything for me further down the line?

[Capt. Hunt]

yeah, the BPC decoupler ejects it from the CM, all you want in the abort sequence is the LES tower and BPC rockets, and the SM decoupler.

[WintericeUK]

Wound up with "Toggle RCS Thrust" and "Abort!" on the LES and "Decouple" on the SM. The BPC doesn't have an option for JUST the motors for me, both "Jettison LES"  and "Abort!" are detaching from the capsule.

I can get 3km altitude with an abort on launch pad though so my Kereles III works for now

[Bottle Rocketeer 500]

@sumghai Remember how you wanted a flotation collar for the heat shield,  well the "Comfortable Landing" mod came out, and it allows you to inflate the flotation collar when splashed down.

[sumghai]

10 hours ago, Bottle Rocketeer 500 said:

@sumghai Remember how you wanted a flotation collar for the heat shield,  well the "Comfortable Landing" mod came out, and it allows you to inflate the flotation collar when splashed down.

Thanks for the heads up!

I'll download it tonight, but looking at the screenshots and gifs in its release thread, I'm already liking what I'm seeing.

[Bottle Rocketeer 500]

@sumghai I've  never used that mod, but based on @Kottabos's review of ICSP and the gifs, I thought that it might benefit SDHI.

[sumghai]

So I've had a play around with Comfortable Landing on my prebuilt SDHI SMS vessel, and it pretty much does exactly what it says on the tin - automatically deploys airbags on splashdown. There is little configuration or fiddling required by users - the airbags and righting balls are integrated into the stock Mk1-2 Pod itself via MODEL{} nodes (although existing craft may need to be rebuilt).

I'm more than happy to use this mod myself, and would definitely recommend it to everyone, so work on my proposed Hanbart-Thompdrin mod is redundant. In fact, I like CL's own flotation collar design so much, I'm going to try to repurpose my original heat shield airbags for terrestrial landings instead:

 

 

 

 

[Bomoo]

Noticed what may be a bug with the SDHI trunk-2.5m adapter/separator piece. When decoupling it, the decouple force does not appear to be centered, as I've observed it tends to pull to one side. I've performed a couple of tests using various parts and setups to try to nail down what it is, and it does appear to be either the stack separator piece or some weird collider clipping with the service module trunk. After a little more testing, removing the SM trunk as a variable, yeah, appears to be the SM adapter.

Here's a picture of what it looks like a few seconds after decoupling on a 0.01 hacked gravity test craft. Craft was flying dead straight up until that point. Same results when using the SM trunk and stock 2.5m tank with an LV-909 stuck on the bottom.

Edited October 12, 2017 by Bomoo

[Synthesis]

I've run into a weird issue: has anyone using the Launch Escape System run into a problem where it looks like it's "constantly activated"? In other words, the system works fine, but the plumes burn nonstop rather than just when they're activated.

I have Real Plume, Real Plume Stock and Smokescreen installed. I haven't seen anything about incompatibilities with any of those things in the thread. 

[sumghai]

25 minutes ago, Synthesis said:

I've run into a weird issue: has anyone using the Launch Escape System run into a problem where it looks like it's "constantly activated"? In other words, the system works fine, but the plumes burn nonstop rather than just when they're activated.

I have Real Plume, Real Plume Stock and Smokescreen installed. I haven't seen anything about incompatibilities with any of those things in the thread. 

Try removing those and see what happens.

[Synthesis]

6 hours ago, sumghai said:

Try removing those and see what happens.

Thank you for responding so quickly. That's a pretty obvious thing I should've thought of--removing all the folders fixes the issue. Next I'm going to try adding them back one by one in order of dependency...none of my other engines/launch escape systems seem to have this issue, it'd be a shame to lose those mods (and they're the most recent version of them). I may have to go through the LES configuration file and try and figure out what's wrong. I'll post back with my findings.