linuxgurugamer Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Be advised that as of now (9:35 PM, EDT) CKAN is not installing the latest version. Latest version on kerbalstuff is 1.3.2.1, CKAN installs 1.3.2Replacing 1.3.2 with 1.3.2.1 fixes a number of problems.- - - Updated - - -Bug report:RealChute 1.3.2.1When it is installed, the Engineer's Report always says that the is no paracute: This command pod has crew assigned but no parachute attached.It doesn't seem to affect the ship itself, just the engineer's report Edited April 30, 2015 by linuxgurugamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupid_chris Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'm running into a problem on the previous version (won't upgrade to 1.0 until all my favorite mods are upgraded) wherein the realchutes panel in the action groups editor doesn't show up when I click on a part with the real chutes module. I've read earlier in this thread that when AVC finds a compatibility error, real chutes won't load, but that leaves me wondering how I'm supposed to fix this without updating to the newer version designed for 1.0 since I'm still on 0.90? I guess that's the first question, with the second being, is this really the cause of the issue? I've had this problem intermittently in the past while using this version, so I'm not really sure if the new version release is the real culprit...You can't use RealChute 1.3.2.x on KSP 0.90. It's made for 1.0. In the same way you can't use 1.3.1 on KSP 1.0. You can find 1.3.1 on KerbalStuff if you're still on 0.90.I am really enjoying this mod, but them being free in Career mode is irking me.Is there a suggested cost for the parachutes?They have a costBe advised that as of now (9:35 PM, EDT) CKAN is not installing the latest version. Latest version on kerbalstuff is 1.3.2.1, CKAN installs 1.3.2Replacing 1.3.2 with 1.3.2.1 fixes a number of problems.- - - Updated - - -Bug report:RealChute 1.3.2.1When it is installed, the Engineer's Report always says that the is no paracute: This command pod has crew assigned but no parachute attached.It doesn't seem to affect the ship itself, just the engineer's reportRead the last few pages, I answered that at least six times now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 You can't use RealChute 1.3.2.x on KSP 0.90. It's made for 1.0. In the same way you can't use 1.3.1 on KSP 1.0. You can find 1.3.1 on KerbalStuff if you're still on 0.90.They have a costRead the last few pages, I answered that at least six times now.Oops. You're correct. I was dealing with a number of issues, and just wanted to get this reported. ThanksLGG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haguruma Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I get multiple april fools chut options thingy o.o. Ugh wish I could explain it better but I am getting 3-4 of them <=D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacedInvader Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 You can't use RealChute 1.3.2.x on KSP 0.90. It's made for 1.0. In the same way you can't use 1.3.1 on KSP 1.0. You can find 1.3.1 on KerbalStuff if you're still on 0.90.I am using 1.3.1 with 0.90, I guess I should have been more specific about what I meant by being on the previous version. Either way, I've temporarily removed the version file and that seems to have fixed the issue for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Be advised that as of now (9:35 PM, EDT) CKAN is not installing the latest version. Latest version on kerbalstuff is 1.3.2.1, CKAN installs 1.3.2Replacing 1.3.2 with 1.3.2.1 fixes a number of problems.- - - Updated - - -CKAN is now installing the correct version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vardicd Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Just a quick question, and sorry if its been answered before, but I didn't see it anywhere, with the new aero system in KSP 1.0, do the cone shaped real chutes behave as a cone shape, like the aero nose cones, or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instresu Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Just one question: how should one use RealChutes in 1.0? I'm using the chutes exactly as I did in 0.90, but when I deploy my drogue chutes I get ~41 gs of de-acceleration. What's wrong?I've also noticed that if you select a target planet and apply the changes, they sometimes don't when you re-load the ship. For example, if I choose Duna and apply it, the next time I load the ship the default values (for Kerbin) is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandcando Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Just one question: how should one use RealChutes in 1.0? I'm using the chutes exactly as I did in 0.90, but when I deploy my drogue chutes I get ~41 gs of de-acceleration. What's wrong?I've also noticed that if you select a target planet and apply the changes, they sometimes don't when you re-load the ship. For example, if I choose Duna and apply it, the next time I load the ship the default values (for Kerbin) is back.Yeah I feel like the chutes a little more on the forceful side even though I deploy them at higher altitudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupid_chris Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Added this to the OP.Issues that do not follow the bug reporting format will be ignoredJust a quick question, and sorry if its been answered before, but I didn't see it anywhere, with the new aero system in KSP 1.0, do the cone shaped real chutes behave as a cone shape, like the aero nose cones, or not?This is done automatically by the game, so yes. Edited April 30, 2015 by stupid_chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
searlefm Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Thanks for the update this is so much better than the vanilla ones.tho the only problem iv had is the sizing options diapering sometimes but iv now clue what happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupid_chris Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 Thanks for the update this is so much better than the vanilla ones.tho the only problem iv had is the sizing options diapering sometimes but iv now clue what happening.If you're speaking about career: before you unlock the action groups, you resize with the right click menu. After you unlcok them, you resize with the action groups menu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instresu Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Added this to the OP.I'm not sure it's an issue in RealChutes itself, hence no bug report. But as you clearly read my post, you are allowed to answer it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumghai Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'm not sure it's an issue in RealChutes itself, hence no bug report. But as you clearly read my post, you are allowed to answer it.When reporting issues, the responsibility lies with the user experiencing the issue to: - firstly ensure that the bug can actually reproduced reliably without the interference of unrelated components - follow proper bug report guidelines to streamline the investigation processAs frustrating it is for users to experience a given issue, it is even more frustrating for add-on authors to have to pick through poorly-formatted and/or uninformative bug reports, because add-on authors can't read minds, nor can they magically know the exact state of your game installation. It's no good saying "it might be RealChutes, it might not", because for all stupid_chris knows, it might actually be a problem with another conflicting add-on or even PEBKAC.All add-on authors have every right to ignore unhelpful bug reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instresu Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 When reporting issues, the responsibility lies with the user experiencing the issue to: - firstly ensure that the bug can actually reproduced reliably without the interference of unrelated components - follow proper bug report guidelines to streamline the investigation processAs frustrating it is for users to experience a given issue, it is even more frustrating for add-on authors to have to pick through poorly-formatted and/or uninformative bug reports, because add-on authors can't read minds, nor can they magically know the exact state of your game installation. It's no good saying "it might be RealChutes, it might not", because for all stupid_chris knows, it might actually be a problem with another conflicting add-on or even PEBKAC.All add-on authors have every right to ignore unhelpful bug reports.Well, sorry if I was unclear on that. I only have Kerbal Engineer and RealChutes installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupid_chris Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'm not sure it's an issue in RealChutes itself, hence no bug report. But as you clearly read my post, you are allowed to answer it.I'm also allowed to ignore it. sumghai is right on all the line. Bug hunting is a hard, long, and tedious process. I don't currently have the time to sort through incomplete bug reports and figure out what is wrong and why, or even if it's in my code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
searlefm Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 If you're speaking about career: before you unlock the action groups, you resize with the right click menu. After you unlcok them, you resize with the action groups menu.and now i feel dumb.well i guess i should read the bloody manual next time.well there is nothing else to say but this is a brilliant mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlecat Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 In case anyone else had this issue (100% not RealChute issue):I was using the Phoenix Industries Stock Bug Fix Modules that included a fix for the parachute drag to make them more in-line with what they should of been (while I was waiting for RealChute, of course!). When I installed the newest version of RealChute and tried to load a ship, the game would never load the ship -- only showing a black screen with "NULL" on altitude, speed, and etc. I went and deleted the parachute fix folder from the StockBugFixModules, flushed my PartDatabase.cfg file, and then everything is working again.Again, RealChute just plain rocks and this is in no way a RealChute issue; just posting in case someone else might of done this and has unexpected issues!Aha! Good find.I suppose If I need a reminder as to what the Bugfix Modules were *fixing* with parachutes, then deleting the fix might let me find out soon enough. At least it keeps my ships from plunging into oblivion. Oddly, though. I wasn't having trouble with ships that only had realchute parts. Only the vanilla parachute parts caused the Kraken.I just thought it was stupid_chris enforcing brand loyalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vardicd Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 This is done automatically by the game, so yes.K thanks just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinoss Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I am not sure what it caused but I find it rather hard to land safely with parachutes now with KSP 1.0. when my velocity gets under 400 m/s and i open the parachute, i am almost near the ground already and the parachutes take to long to fully open, so i will land very rough. Happened already a few times now. Never experienced this with Ferram and KSP 0.9. At what velocities will the parachutes be undeployable? Or what governs whether or not the parachute will break when opened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCLONE Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Chris (or anyone),I may just be missing it, but isn't there a setting where the chutes can be ARMED in staging, rather than DEPLOYED? Or is this a capability of the stock chutes only? It's very handy to have the chutes go armed at pod separation from a service module (staging trigger of a decoupler...) rather than having to do it manually, or set up an action group... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVlad Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 There is (or it was at 0.90 at least) a realChute button in space center overview (main) screen. It toggle small config menu, where option "Arm when deployed" is located. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupid_chris Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 I am not sure what it caused but I find it rather hard to land safely with parachutes now with KSP 1.0. when my velocity gets under 400 m/s and i open the parachute, i am almost near the ground already and the parachutes take to long to fully open, so i will land very rough. Happened already a few times now. Never experienced this with Ferram and KSP 0.9. At what velocities will the parachutes be undeployable? Or what governs whether or not the parachute will break when opened?The chutes break on deployment in stock because stock pulls too hard. This won't happen with RealChute. It's safe to deploy your chutes when reentry heating stops.Chris (or anyone),I may just be missing it, but isn't there a setting where the chutes can be ARMED in staging, rather than DEPLOYED? Or is this a capability of the stock chutes only? It's very handy to have the chutes go armed at pod separation from a service module (staging trigger of a decoupler...) rather than having to do it manually, or set up an action group...In the Space Center, look at the top left, parachute icon. Click it and it'll pop up an options menu for RealChute which will bring up an option that does what you want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchildConstruct Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 1.0.1 Patch breaks RealChutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakyCheeseMan Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Yeah, the stock parachutes now act like they're already deployed at launch. Spent a good bit of my morning cursting the aero system before realizing that's why all my craft flipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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