[1.0.2]HGR 1.875m parts(v1.3.0 released)

[JPmAn]

Is this on ckan?

[fallout2077]

Is this on ckan?

Did you try browsing for it on CKAN? If you have tried, and you didn't find it, then it most likely isn't on there, or not compatible with 1.0.4 (according to CKAN, anyway. I don't believe there are any issues with it in 1.0.4).

[MoeKitsune]

If there's an update soon, can it include fairings for the 1.875 heat shield?

[MarcAlain]

Hgr r.i.p.

[fallout2077]

Hgr r.i.p.

What makes you think that HGR is (or will be) kaput? I see no reason to believe why this mod would be fading away.

[Motokid600]

Hgr r.i.p.

Yea that'll motivate the mods dev. Sure thing.

[fallout2077]

Yea that'll motivate the mods dev. Sure thing.

Evidently MarcAlain isn't aware of AIES, and its incredibly long period of dormancy. The previously released (before the brand new version) was way back when KSP was still in the .23 phase. It just updated to 1.0.x several days ago. So, wait a while before allowing the negativity to set it. This mod's author most likely has an actual life that involves stepping away from video games for a while. Plus, why should he update when the mod doesn't have any (as far as I know) discernible issues?

[Wiarus]

Is this working on 1.0.4?

[_Augustus_]

Is this working on 1.0.4?

Yes. 1.0.4 broke almost nothing with part packs.

[Kerbas_ad_astra]

Is this working on 1.0.4?

Stock heat shield behavior changed between 1.0.3 and 1.0.4, so I wouldn't rely on the HGR heat shield for any vital missions until you've tested it.

[Wiarus]

Thanks.

[Cheesecake]

For me it works in 1.04. I have no problems with the Heatshild

[nobodyhasthis]

Is this on ckan?

Did you try browsing for it on CKAN? If you have tried, and you didn't find it, then it most likely isn't on there, or not compatible with 1.0.4 (according to CKAN, anyway. I don't believe there are any issues with it in 1.0.4).

True. Yes it is on CKAN. However the metadata has not be updated. CKAN tries to fix the missing metadata by pulling from Kerbalstuff. But when you look there you will also see it listed as outdated. The data is also pre CKAN "fuzzy version" so you have to manually install it. You can force CKAN through the command line but it is a pain in the backside. Not installing a mod missing data is supposed to be a special feature but it is really a short term CKAN developer oversight. They don't want to give the user the control over version numbering. Long term this might be the lesser of two evils. So we can't blame any body for this now. Ironically the last update on HGR Props and the Corvus data was done by one of the CKAN gang to bring those in line with the new CKAN method of fuzzy version numbers. Somehow HGR Parts did not get done. Chances are there was no feedback so they assumed it did not work in 1.0.4. This was all done for good reasons and the CKAN developers note explains where we go from here. https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/3beh00/why_are_there_so_few_ckan_mods_for_104/ Edited August 22, 2015 by nobodyhasthis

[passinglurker]

I like my solution that makes the problem non existent "don't use ckan it's too much trouble"

[Felbourn]

Orion, I wrote a plugin for personal use that fixes old school fairings. I have been using it on old style KW and AIES fairings.

If you support old fairings again, I'll make my mod suitable for public use and we can attach it to your old fairings too.

[Kerbas_ad_astra]

Hey Orion, I just noticed (in the course of troubleshooting other stuff) that the Advanced Onion has a science converter but no science lab (rasta013 provides a suggested lab configuration -- but be aware that his post is missing a closing curly brace). Is this intentional? It can't actually do any science generation without a lab module.

Edited September 13, 2015 by Kerbas_ad_astra

[Coga19000]

Do you realise what you've done? Do you?

You made us realise we need 3.275m parts, that's what you've done!

[Svm420]

Do you realise what you've done? Do you?

You made us realise we need 3.275m parts, that's what you've done!

Ehh seems to close to 3.5 IMO. 1.875 is nice because it is right in the middle. Wish squad would adopt the size and give us a nice 2 man capsule

[Coga19000]

Ehh seems to close to 3.5 IMO. 1.875 is nice because it is right in the middle. Wish squad would adopt the size and give us a nice 2 man capsule

Well, the 3.5m parts are actually 3.75m, so it is also right in the middle.

[Kerbas_ad_astra]

Well, the 3.5m parts are actually 3.75m, so it is also right in the middle.

1.875 is more useful than 3.275 because the relative performance gap from 1.25 to 2.5 meters is larger than the jump from 2.5 to 3.75.

All else being equal, thrust scales by engine throat area (thus length^2) and mass by length^3, so a 2.5m engine will (generally speaking) have 4x the thrust and 8x the mass of a 1.25m engine. Going from 2.5 to 3.75 (a 1.5x length increase) produces a 2.25x increase in thrust and 3.4x increase in mass. Putting 1.875 between 1.25 and 2.5 reduces that gap to similar levels.

3.275, on the other hand, is a 1.31x length increase over 2.5, which is a 70% increase in thrust and a 2.2x increase in mass. At that point, I'm not getting much more performance -- I might as well just use a pair of 2.5m motors, or hop up to 3.75m rockets.

(While the gaps between 0.35m, 0.625m, and 1.25m parts are also jumps of 4x or 8x, the absolute differences are small enough that there's not much point in creating 0.48m or 0.94m parts.)

[Changestormer]

A comment: This mod has become part of my static mod load; whenever I start poking around to delete whatever it is that's causing too many parts to load while in the VAB, this one gets an automatic exclusion, it's just so flipping useful. Thank you.

[rottielover]

Anyone know how to get the antenna working / compatible with Antenna Range ?

[Kerbas_ad_astra]

Anyone know how to get the antenna working / compatible with Antenna Range ?

Here's the patch that I use (giving it the same performance as the basic whip antenna):

@PART[HGRSolarPanels1]:NEEDS[AntennaRange]
{
    @MODULE[ModuleDataTransmitter]
    {
        @name = ModuleLimitedDataTransmitter
        nominalRange = 6364
        simpleRange = 20500000
        maxPowerFactor = 8
        maxDataFactor = 4
    }

    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleScienceContainer

        dataIsCollectable = true
        dataIsStorable = false

        storageRange = 2
    }
}

While I'm talking about HGR patches, I use a couple more to get the fuel tank cost balance more in line with stock and fix the lab (based on what I think was rottielover's suggestion a few pages ago):

@PART[HGR_Small_Tank,HGR_Normal_Tank,HGR_Large_Tank,HGR_Huge_Tank]
{
    @cost /= 2
}

@PART[OnionNew]:HAS[!ModuleScienceLab]:FIRST
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleScienceLab
        containerModuleIndex = 0
        dataStorage = 350
        crewsRequired = 1
        canResetConnectedModules = True
        canResetNearbyModules = True
        interactionRange = 4
        SurfaceBonus = 0.1
        ContextBonus = 0.25
        homeworldMultiplier = 0.1
        RESOURCE_PROCESS
        {
            name = ElectricCharge
            amount = 10
        }
    }
}

[ThatOneBritishGuy...]

1.875 is more useful than 3.275 because the relative performance gap from 1.25 to 2.5 meters is larger than the jump from 2.5 to 3.75.

Ah yes. The tyranny of the rocket equation.

[Sudragon]

Has anyone worked out what the problem with the green Soy-Juice capsule is? It's a guaranteed graphics crash.