HotRockets! Particle FX Replacement + Tutorial

[Khatharr]

I launched the same craft that I had been using before for a quick Mun trip. I still experienced slowdown during the launch, but I think it may have improved slightly. Upon returning to Kerbin I was able to recover normally. Thank you! I didn't try isolation testing the SRBs, but there are a lot of them on launch stage, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were responsible.

Edit - Several more flights. It's working reliably. Cheers.

Edited May 11, 2014 by Khatharr

[sievers808]

Is there anywhere to get this other than on Curse? The download stops at 175kb and then cancels itself.

Edit: Nevermind, found it on the Spaceport. You should consider adding the Spaceport link to the OP.

[Mecripp]

Is there anywhere to get this other than on Curse? The download stops at 175kb and then cancels itself.

Edit: Nevermind, found it on the Spaceport. You should consider adding the Spaceport link to the OP.

You can try here http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/65754-HotRockets%21-Particle-FX-Replacement-Tutorial?p=1147180&viewfull=1#post1147180

[pantheis]

I launched the same craft that I had been using before for a quick Mun trip. I still experienced slowdown during the launch, but I think it may have improved slightly. Upon returning to Kerbin I was able to recover normally. Thank you! I didn't try isolation testing the SRBs, but there are a lot of them on launch stage, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were responsible.

Edit - Several more flights. It's working reliably. Cheers.

So it makes sense why the config worked for you and not for me. I'm using B9 SRB sepratrons, which don't have an updated config to fix whatever is causing the issue.

-edit-

I don't think it's the B9 stuff. I think it's the NASA LFO boosters. I don't know enough about the configs to test this theory though.

Edited May 12, 2014 by pantheis

[BudgetHedgehog]

RLA engines could do with some tweaks

[Nazari1382]

RLA engines could do with some tweaks

This should fix the problem for rla and some of the sxt and kspx engines:

http://www./download/ee2k65qjs8fhc0a/HotRockets_7.1_Nazari.zip

[BudgetHedgehog]

Lovely, I'll have a look tonight, thank you

[Khatharr]

Reporting back in. I just built a new craft and it's causing the same bug again. I used larger SRBs on this one (a pair of really big KW ones) I'll try to track down which specific part(s) is doing it as this is a much simpler craft.

Okay, now I can't recreate it. -.-

Sorry. I'll keep paying attention to it and respond again if I find out anything useful.

Edited May 13, 2014 by Khatharr

[CaptainKipard]

Could you pleeeeease link to the curseforge address and not curse.

[Justin Kerbice]

Can someone tell me from which mod these engines are (from the last pic on the bottom) ?

Thanks.

Also, what about the smoke effect nothke did here:

It seems to have been lost along the posts.

[BudgetHedgehog]

B9 SABREs.

Also, yes, RLA seems to be fixed, thanks Nazari

[Castun]

Also, what about the smoke effect nothke did here:

http://i.imgur.com/40bGScU.gif

It seems to have been lost along the posts.

I'm curious too, I remember seeing that and thinking how awesome that would be.

[Mecripp]

The smoke pretty sure it's a setting you can change but with smoke like that your going to have people crying about the lag you can check out this mod and hold it on the pad bad thing was he set it so the smoke clears to fast. http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/16866-Horizon-Aeronautics-Development-Thread

Edit- But guess you could change that setting too.

Edited May 13, 2014 by Mecripp2

[Haifi]

It seems I get some lag effect while using Novapunchs 3.75m Little Mother engine... every 2 or so seconds a hiccup. The rest of squad, b9, novapunch engines i have unlocked so far in my career seem to run smooth. Without hotrockets the Little Mother does not lag either. I have 51 mods installed and no lags besides that engine:)

[Woopert]

Those pics on the bottom there are from B9 Aerospace. Speaking of which, bac9 recently posted saying he's working on a new update for the pack... yay!

Nazari, would you be able to put a bluish clear effect on the Skipper? I always think of it as a J-2 equivalent, which used cryogenic LH2 and LOX. It's exhaust was bluish clear, it's water vapor. It would also help break up the chain of most of the engines having a yellow exhaust.

I love what you've done so far, it's just an idea. I know it's not meant to be all that realistic but I just thought it might be something to mess with, something like the exhaust on the KSO main engines.

[Mecripp]

It seems I get some lag effect while using Novapunchs 3.75m Little Mother engine... every 2 or so seconds a hiccup. The rest of squad, b9, novapunch engines i have unlocked so far in my career seem to run smooth. Without hotrockets the Little Mother does not lag either. I have 51 mods installed and no lags besides that engine:)

Unless it was fixed the new fx that comes with NovaPounch will have too FX with hotrockets and through a bug best to zip up the NP.cfg in hotrockets folder.

[Nazari1382]

It seems I get some lag effect while using Novapunchs 3.75m Little Mother engine...

It's got a boatload of emitters on it. I guess it'd lag less if the emission value was turned down for them though.

Nazari, would you be able to put a bluish clear effect on the Skipper? I always think of it as a J-2 equivalent, which used cryogenic LH2 and LOX. It's exhaust was bluish clear, it's water vapor. It would also help break up the chain of most of the engines having a yellow exhaust.

You can try switching it to use the "flamejet" effect as used in the sabre engines, and tweak its settings, like size, emission, and energy.

[Haifi]

Ok, ill try and fiddle with the .cfg a little, maybe i can find a setting that still has eyecandy but reduces the lag. Thx for the quick reply.

[TK421d]

i'm having trouble resizing the effects to fit a smaller engine

both have a similar config, but the one on the right has the bolded lines added, yet remains the same size no matter what i set it to?

            MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE
            {
                name = flameion1
                modelName = MP_Nazari/FX/flameion
                transformName = ThrustTransform
                emission = 0.0 0.0
                emission = 0.05 0.75
                emission = 0.75 .82
                emission = 1.0 1.0
[B]                size = 0.0 0.25
		size = 1.0 0.25
		scale = 0.0 0.25
		scale = 1.0 0.25[/B]
		speed = 0.0 1.70
                speed = 1.0 1.65
            }

am i doing something wrong?

Edited May 14, 2014 by BobsYerUncle

[Nazari1382]

You need SmokeScreen, and changing the second value on each line for size will work for that. The effect needs to be MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST.

[Dodgey]

So just to clarify Nazari, if the original numbers are 1.0 0.5 to half the size of the effect you change it to 1.0 0.25?

[Nazari1382]

So just to clarify Nazari, if the original numbers are 1.0 0.5 to half the size of the effect you change it to 1.0 0.25?

yes the first number is throttle level, second is size (based on the size of the original particle in the .mu)

[Dodgey]

Alright sweet! 😊 Thanks for that! !

[B787_300]

hey Nazari, how hard would it be to make the cones and effects on the rocket engines expand as the air pressure drops like RL?

[TK421d]

You need SmokeScreen, and changing the second value on each line for size will work for that. The effect needs to be MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST.

Ahhhhhh. now its working perfectly. Thank you

So just to clarify Nazari, if the original numbers are 1.0 0.5 to half the size of the effect you change it to 1.0 0.25?

i had been changing the #s a few times just trying to get an effect, i started with .5 and thats what i used in the pic above.