The Open Part Mod - Week of 4/11 project started

[darkside]

In the very beginning.

Great designs in this thread, I like octagon idea a lot, but what will happen if it mounted on an angled surface like side of Mk1 pod?

[CaptainKipard]

Thanks for pointing at that bezier curve thing, I've always been making these types of things manually or with an armature, I'll have to try out this method.

YW. Believe it or not I knew that this could be easily done for years, but this is the first time I actually had an opportunity to use it, lol

Snjo

Could you please comment your code heavily for people who've never coded for unity before?

In the very beginning.

So many people joining. This is so cool!

[Milkshakefiend]

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Snjo

Could you please comment your code heavily for people who've never coded for unity before?

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This would be very helpful

[Snjo]

I'm coding right now, commenting as much as I code.

[BahamutoD]

I should have made my RCS much smaller too.. well its too late to turn back now

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Now, I imported it into the game, and came across a bug that I've never seen from making over 10 parts.

Everything works fine except: in the part browser, when you hover over the box the model sits in, but not on the model itself, it starts scaling up uncontrollably and ArgumentOutOfRange exceptions start filling the debug log. Also for some reason, the model in the tooltip thumbnail is my BT part. Has anyone seen this/know of a fix?

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Edit: After seeing how small the part was in the game, I deleted any loopcuts I could without messing up the texture wrap, or making it look too much worse from a reasonable distance. Was able to reduce tri count from about 5k to 2.5k.

Edited April 12, 2014 by BahamutoD

[Snjo]

I should have made my RCS much smaller too.. well its too late to turn back now

http://imgur.com/a/6PNLI

Now, I imported it into the game, and came across a bug that I've never seen from making over 10 parts.

Everything works fine except: in the part browser, when you hover over the box the model sits in, but not on the model itself, it starts scaling up uncontrollably and ArgumentOutOfRange exceptions start filling the debug log. Also for some reason, the model in the tooltip thumbnail is my BT part. Has anyone seen this/know of a fix?

http://imgur.com/a/gqq4J

I had the exact same thing. I removed the fuel tank resource nodes in the cfg for now. Maybe I just used the wrong resource name?

edit: Talked to InfiniteDice. He says any part with more than 2 resources will freak out. That might be pretty bad!

edit 2: there is a known problem which this thread describes, and purportedly fixes: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/63109-0-23-Modulefixer

Edited April 12, 2014 by Snjo

[CaptainKipard]

That's a KSP bug. I think this is meant to fix it.

BahamutoD are you using the MODEL module?

Edited April 12, 2014 by Cpt. Kipard

[BahamutoD]

Thanks for the link. Doesn't it mean that you can fix it by adding "descriptive modules" to the config? How do you do that?

I'm not using model nodes, just the old school mesh = model.mu

[Silvester]

try include this in cfg

MODULE

{

name = ModuleSAS

}

if more than 2 resource is in a part a bug happened

[BahamutoD]

try include this in cfg

MODULE

{

name = ModuleSAS

}

if more than 2 resource is in a part a bug happened

That did the trick! I guess everyone who's doing this part will have to do that.

[darkside]

Funny thing, I am having exactly the same bug for the first time now.

Ah, now I see, it is because of the nature of this part we all working on. Thanks for the solution, didn't try it yet, hope it works.

[CaptainKipard]

That did the trick! I guess everyone who's doing this part will have to do that.

I suggest that instead of adding nasty hacks to parts the person who compiles this mod (frizzank I guess) redistributes the module fixer along with it.

[tygoo7]

Hmm, this is an interesting idea. I will probably try this after this challenge.

[BahamutoD]

I suggest that instead of adding nasty hacks to parts the person who compiles this mod (frizzank I guess) redistributes the module fixer along with it.

Probably, but ModuleSAS is pretty harmless. I don't think it does much without a ModuleReactonWheel coupled with it.

[Tiberion]

It would only give "flight compute" function for free if you happened to be using a probe body without SAS in its config.

You can use any dummy module though, we went with a zero thrust ModuleRCS in the NovaPunch parts back when the bug was first figured out, but you could do a zero torque/power reaction wheel or engine as well.

And using a couple extra lines in the config is much preferred to distributing a plugin with tiny parts like these, imo.

[Talisar]

Is there any agreed on density or volume data for all the resources?

Greys did some figuring based on the capacities of the stock tanks HERE when helping me balance my spherical tanks, and those are the numbers that I generally aim towards when making tanks myself. That was done almost a year ago, but I don't think any significant changes have been made that would affect it.

-edit: Changes other than adding more, huge tanks that aren't taking into consideration... I guess I should have thought about that

Edited April 12, 2014 by Talisar

[TheCardinal]

Cardinal I think this is better suited for the Requests subforum because it involves programming.

I did already state that it would involve a plugin. I had the impression that frizzank also had a need for creators of plugins.

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I would like to focus on the art side of creating parts for Kerbal and their proper integration into the game. If someone wants to do a plugin or code one that would be awesome as well.

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So I was venting an idea which i had and hoped to get some feedback to see if it was a good idea.

Since no one responded to the idea, it must have been a bad one. Shame, it would have been a nice puzzle for me to solve in order to get some experience in C sharp. Sorry for bothering anyone, i won't make that mistake again.

Edited April 12, 2014 by TheCardinal

[Snjo]

I did already state that it would involve a plugin. I had the impression that frizzank also had a need for creators of plugins.

So I was venting an idea which i had and hoped to get some feedback to see if it was a good idea.

Since no one responded to the idea, it must have been a bad one. Shame, it would have been a nice puzzle for me to solve in order to get some experience in C sharp. Sorry for bothering anyone, i won't make that mistake again.

I didn't think it was a bad idea at all, but I couldn't see how you would make it apparent visually that there are sections inside the tank.

If you want to look at some code inprogress that deal with fuel levels, this is where I am currently at: https://github.com/snjo/FStriTank/blob/master/FStriTank/FSTTfuelLevel.cs

Edited April 12, 2014 by Snjo

[TheCardinal]

I didn't think it was a bad idea at all, but I couldn't see how you would make it apparent visually that there are sections inside the tank.

If you want to look at some code inprogress that deal with fuel levels, this is where I am currently at: https://github.com/snjo/FStriTank/blob/master/FStriTank/FSTTfuelLevel.cs

Thank you for the code, i'll take a look at it.

On the subject of the sections in the tank being visually apparent, the tank should receive a color coding matching the fuels/rcs. And thinking of it, it doesn't need to be restricted to three types. It could well be(come) a general purpose tank filled with anything in any combination. The downside of this would be a higher empty mass.

[NathanKell]

So...I've been meaning to do this for a while, but I think instead of (or at least first/before) doing this part, I'll write a plugin to automatically crossfeed radial tanks.

[CaptainKipard]

Greys did some figuring based on the capacities of the stock tanks HERE when helping me balance my spherical tanks, and those are the numbers that I generally aim towards when making tanks myself. That was done almost a year ago, but I don't think any significant changes have been made that would affect it.

-edit: Changes other than adding more, huge tanks that aren't taking into consideration... I guess I should have thought about that

Thanks Talisar.

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Texturing done, kind of, almost.

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Edited April 12, 2014 by Cpt. Kipard

[StarVision]

Here's my current progress. I've never actually baked anything onto textures before, so I've already learned something. I've gone through many iterations, but I'm pretty happy with this one so far. It's around 700 Tris. I'll probably try get some colour markings on the tanks, just to make it more interesting.

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[Snjo]

Plugin code so far:
https://github.com/snjo/FStriTank/blob/master/FStriTank/FSTTfuelGauge.cs for the small gauge needles
https://github.com/snjo/FStriTank/blob/master/FStriTank/FSTTfuelLevel.cs for the liquid filled flask

Unity Project: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22972712/ksp%20forum/Tri-tank.zip

Part (W.I.P): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22972712/ksp%20forum/FStriTank.zip Edited April 13, 2014 by Snjo

[Tiberion]

well now you need to add code that cuts off fuel flow when inverted, since your feed line would be sucking air when your ship ended up inverted there at the end

Pretty cool, though

[Silvester]

new model

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Edited April 13, 2014 by Silvester