[1.2.2] Stock Part Revamp, Update 1.9.6. Released Source Files!

[Whirligig Girl]

Two things:

1, the wheel looks a bit odd sticking out the bottom there... not entirely realistic either. If it's a question of the wheel being just too big for the bay, why not make it just pivot over 90 degrees? I do like the swinging doors though.. hate the stock ones, I always think they look like a pair of trousers from behind or something.

2, consider using/borrowing the texture from KSPRC for the panels, or at least making it easy for me to keep them. Unless you can do something better...

I don't like those panel textures. :/

[Eudae55]

I think there's a limit to the amount of RCS jets a part can have in Unity (someone will need to confirm this) but there's no reason there couldn't be a separate part containing the thrusters and have them attach to a special node.

[NathanKell]

It was done a lot in pre-WW2 and WW2. The Seversky P-35 is one example.

[Starwaster]

I think there's a limit to the amount of RCS jets a part can have in Unity (someone will need to confirm this) but there's no reason there couldn't be a separate part containing the thrusters and have them attach to a special node.

There's no hard limitation, but there are practicality issues that can arise from putting RCS onto a single part where you'd ordinarily be using multiple parts. The issue is that that part may fire ALL jets in some situations where your craft has other RCS jets.

There is a possible workaround that to my knowledge has never been tried. The workaround involves breaking up the RCS transforms into groups where the transforms are uniquely named. For instance starboardRCS, portRCS, etc. Then, in the part's config file you would have multiple ModuleRCS, one for each uniquely named cluster. Inside each ModuleRCS block you would then set thrusterTransformName to the name of the transform corresponding to one of the clusters. In theory that should let it work properly in all situations even with other RCS parts. But again, it hasn't been tested.

[White Owl]

Alright I'll add them. But for now, oh look some solar panels and what is that? A a new landing gear?!

(The animations are slightly faster in game, FYI)

http://imgur.com/a/mmRDG

When the landing gear bay was first introduced, I complained about the lack of torque links. So now I'm very happy to see this!

[BFGfreak]

Concerning the new gear bay, My concern is that it's weird that a part undergoing atmospheric reentry has it's rubber landing gear exposed to the plasma stream. Now for planes that are not expecting reentry effects it looks cool and I can see why you'd do it like that, but for the most part if I think that the rubber wheel could stand to look like it's shielded for the rigors of reentry.

[White Owl]

Concerning the new gear bay, My concern is that it's weird that a part undergoing atmospheric reentry has it's rubber landing gear exposed to the plasma stream. Now for planes that are not expecting reentry effects it looks cool and I can see why you'd do it like that, but for the most part if I think that the rubber wheel could stand to look like it's shielded for the rigors of reentry.

That makes perfect sense, really! But these parts have to fit exactly the same dimensions of stock parts, and the stock part has a protruding wheel.

[Whirligig Girl]

That makes perfect sense, really! But these parts have to fit exactly the same dimensions of stock parts, and the stock part has a protruding wheel.

But the Stock gear does not allow surface attachment, so it doesn't matter. Heck, the Parachutes don't fit the same dimensions!

[BFGfreak]

That makes perfect sense, really! But these parts have to fit exactly the same dimensions of stock parts, and the stock part has a protruding wheel.

It does? hold on let me check.

Huh, I never noticed that the stock wheel protrudes out of the wheel base.

[Ven]

But the Stock gear does not allow surface attachment, so it doesn't matter. Heck, the Parachutes don't fit the same dimensions!

That makes perfect sense, really! But these parts have to fit exactly the same dimensions of stock parts, and the stock part has a protruding wheel.

The parts don't have to fit exactly... If you remove the fairings of the engines, for example, you'll notice that they'll clip into the parts below them.

Anyway, it's far more an issue of looks than anything. If I made the wheel go all the way into the bay, I'd have to either make the pod taller or reduce the size of the wheel. If I make the wheel rotate 90 degrees, then I'll have to make the pod wider. The gear pod needs to be skinny to look right, and the only way I can achieve that is to let the wheel hang out a bit.

I've added a fender/ mudguard/ heat shield to the wheel that rotates into place when the wheel is stowed. Also the cupola + most of the electrical parts:

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[Exerminator2000]

Help, for some reason my textures are all misaligned

i think those poor pods told me to destroy them i have renaissance pack, would that affect it?

Edited November 8, 2014 by Exerminator2000

[Riverey]

Can you please also make aerodynamic cap like one from SDHI for new mk1-2 pod?=) It doesn't fit with the door on it right now=(

[TopHatDragon]

Help, for some reason my textures are all misaligned http://i.gyazo.com/30da2a497c0a6bbf1b5625b6ecf321a4.png http://i.gyazo.com/ed6f32e9e0c5331453fab59ec90aa659.png

i think those poor pods told me to destroy them i have renaissance pack, would that affect it?

Yeah it's from SPR and renaissance pack fighting with each other, you'll need to delete one of the over writing files.

Renaissance files are in: GameData\TextureReplacer\Default\Squad\Parts

Edited November 8, 2014 by TopHatDragon

[Exerminator2000]

Fixed it, thanks!

[tygoo7]

The parts don't have to fit exactly... If you remove the fairings of the engines, for example, you'll notice that they'll clip into the parts below them.

Anyway, it's far more an issue of looks than anything. If I made the wheel go all the way into the bay, I'd have to either make the pod taller or reduce the size of the wheel. If I make the wheel rotate 90 degrees, then I'll have to make the pod wider. The gear pod needs to be skinny to look right, and the only way I can achieve that is to let the wheel hang out a bit.

I've added a fender/ mudguard/ heat shield to the wheel that rotates into place when the wheel is stowed. Also the cupola + most of the electrical parts:

http://imgur.com/a/7fF2B

Dat Cupola. Awesome parts as always Ven, can't wait for the next version!

[Sage]

The batteries are looking great, i like the squared "industrial" look. A little suggestion, the top cupola hatch should open in two half circles, because simmetry. And the full plates covers the side a bit too much.

Edited November 9, 2014 by Sage
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[passinglurker]

Out of curiosity how does this mod compare to stock in terms of ram usage? also does the revamped mk1 pod get rid of that annoying gap you get when you attach it without a stack decoupler right under it?

[Naf5000]

I like the Cupola shields, but could you divide the big circular one into six pizza-slice-shaped ones? It seems like that big offset circular plate would inhibit FOV or something. Which seems like something you would account for, but still. Please?

[tygoo7]

Well I think one would be better since the cupola on the ISS uses one. I'm not sure how much of a problem FOV would be since you don't really see a difference on the ISS.

[temporalExile]

I'm going to have to agree with Naf5000. I love the animated thingies, but that asymmetry is going to give me a stroke or something. Or it will just rustle my jimmies a little bit.

[White Owl]

The little fender for the retracted wheel looks good. Makes sense, and matches the stock part.

I'm going to vote against the fold-out covers on the cupola. Those may be realistic, but the asymmetric central lid just doesn't look good. Take a look at how the cupola window covers work in FusTek. Not as realistic, but unobtrusive and good looking.

[Helix935]

i agree just have the top fold out cover opposite of the door and it should be fine for everyone

[Whirligig Girl]

I won't use the cupola until it's no longer a control pod at all. It should only be used for observations IMO, and that big control panel definitely gets in the way of viewing. Another thing: The IVA is too bright. It needs to be a bit darker!

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We need a stockalike/venalike robotic arm to go with a new Cupola!

[Mekan1k]

The parts don't have to fit exactly... If you remove the fairings of the engines, for example, you'll notice that they'll clip into the parts below them.

Anyway, it's far more an issue of looks than anything. If I made the wheel go all the way into the bay, I'd have to either make the pod taller or reduce the size of the wheel. If I make the wheel rotate 90 degrees, then I'll have to make the pod wider. The gear pod needs to be skinny to look right, and the only way I can achieve that is to let the wheel hang out a bit.

I've added a fender/ mudguard/ heat shield to the wheel that rotates into place when the wheel is stowed. Also the cupola + most of the electrical parts:

http://imgur.com/a/7fF2B

I hate to ask this, but why hasn't Squad hired you?

[Helix935]

I hate to ask this, but why hasn't Squad hired you?

for all we know, Ven is already being asked to do so buthe's not telling us nothing to build our anticipation....

they're just finalizing it without us knowing...