parts [1.12.x] Sounding Rockets! Start small. Dream big!

[rottielover]

ah, thank you!

[Aerospacer]

@RoverDude

Hmm, probably stupid question, but where is version 1.0 ?

[Taki117]

I am happy to report that this mod works well in 1.6.1

[Balrog]

How do I prevent a sounding rocket payload from sinking when landing in the ocean?

Payload includes: 

• Nosecone parachute
• 0.35m Payload truss
• Avionics package
• 2 mini battery pack
• Aeronomy Package
• 2HOT Thermometer

Mods:

• MechJeb2
• MechJebForAll
• ModuleManager
• Chatterer
• SCANsat
• DockingPortSoundFX
• ReentryParticleEffect
• RoverWheelSounds
• RCSSounds
• SafeChute
• GravityTurnContinued
• IndicatorLights
• DMagicOrbitalScience
• EngineLightRelit
• ManeuverNodeEvolved
• ZeroMiniAVC
• SoundingRockets
• USITools

Edited March 25, 2019 by Balrog
Added info on payload and installed mods

[Drew Kerman]

45 minutes ago, Balrog said:

How do I prevent a sounding rocket payload from sinking when landing in the ocean?

should still let you recover it, unless you're wanting it to float around and do more science?

[Balrog]

30 minutes ago, Drew Kerman said:

should still let you recover it, unless you're wanting it to float around and do more science?

As it is sinking, it is considered "in motion." Recover vessel does not work.

[Drew Kerman]

4 hours ago, Balrog said:

As it is sinking, it is considered "in motion." Recover vessel does not work.

weird. I could swear I've had things sink but still be recoverable. Can't recall for sure though, but I do think I remember this because I was surprised I was able to recover them (not necessarily sounding rocket payloads, also have landed KerBalloons in the water)

Anyways I built your rocket payload and dropped it into the ocean under chute off the coast of KSC with KSP v1.5.1 and it didn't sink. I've been using sounding rockets for a few years now and I know for sure I never had any troubles recovering them - so if they ever sank that was never an issue for me.

Try reducing your install to stock + Sounding Rockets and see if they still sink

 

Edited March 25, 2019 by Drew Kerman

[DStaal]

3 minutes ago, Drew Kerman said:

weird. I could swear I've had things sink but still be recoverable. Can't recall for sure though, but I do think I remember this because I was surprised I was able to recover them (not necessarily sounding rocket payloads, also have landed KerBalloons in the water)

You can usually recover them just as they start to sink, or you can wait for them to hit the bottom.  (If they can - depending on the depth, in current versions of KSP some parts may not survive.)

This may be a change in KSP's behavior in recent versions - they improved water/liquid/ocean support quite a bit in the last couple of versions, IIRC.

[DavefromNZ]

Hi

I seem to be encountering a bug where the 0.35m nose cone is 10.3m tall. See screenshots. Pretty relevant to a career mode game where you have a height limit of 20m before upgrading the pad.

 

https://imgur.com/4bTpjQ8

https://imgur.com/DkeOo0c

 

 

[Drew Kerman]

8 hours ago, DavefromNZ said:

HiI seem to be encountering a bug where the 0.35m nose cone is 10.3m tall. See screenshots. Pretty relevant to a career mode game where you have a height limit of 20m before upgrading the pad.

It thinks the chute is deployed. There's something wrong with your install but no one will be able to help unless you post a log file. Do a search for "ksp how to get support"

[Gordon Dry]

What is to be done to have plumes and sound in RO with KSP 1.6.1 ?

(Yes, again a plume-and-sound question.)

[Gordon Dry]

So, I tricked KSP / RO by using this config (and only this) from RealPlume-Stock:
GameData\RealPlume-Stock\UmbraSpaceIndustries\Sounding_Rockets.cfg

//Sounding Rocket Configs by forum user Drew Kerman

// LF/O Engine
@PART[SR_Aerospike]:FOR[zFinal]
{
  %EFFECTS
  {
    Kerolox-Upper
    {
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,-0.2
        fixedScale = 0.3
        name = flare
        modelName = RealPlume/MP_Nazari_FX/KWbooster
        emission = 0.0 0
        emission = 0.01 0.2
        emission = 1.0 1
        speed = 0.0 1
        speed = 1.0 1
        offset = 0
        energy = 0.0 0.1
        energy = 1.0 0.1
        size = 0.0 0.6
        size = 1.0 0.6
        fixedEmissions = false
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 0.2
      }
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,-0.2
        fixedScale = 0.3
        energy = 0.5
        speed = 0.75
        emissionMult = 0.35
        name = plume
        modelName = RealPlume/MP_Nazari_FX/KWbooster
        fixedEmissions = false
        sizeClamp = 50
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 2
        randConeEmit
        {
          density = 1.0 0
          density = 0.25 1
          density = 0.06 1.4
          density = 0 1.6
        }
        logGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.2 1
          density = 0.1 7
          density = 0.0 2
        }
        logGrowScale
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.8 1
          density = 0.46 1.3
          density = 0.2 2
          density = 0.1 4
          density = 0.0 5
        }
        linGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 -0.2
          density = 0.25 0
          density = 0.07 4
          density = 0.035 12
          density = 0.0 25
        }
        speed
        {
          density = 1.0 5
          density = 0.46 5
          density = 0.2 5
          density = 0.1 8
          density = 0.05 8
          density = 0.01 6
          density = 0.0 4
        }
        xyForce
        {
          density = 1 0.4
          density = 0.25 0.6
          density = 0.06 0.75
          density = 0.01 0.85
          density = 0 1
        }
        zForce
        {
          density = 1 1
          density = 0.2 1.02
          density = 0 1.033
        }
        emission
        {
          density = 1.0 10
          density = 0.5 10
          density = 0.2 12
          density = 0.1 9
          density = 0.07 7
          density = 0.035 15
          density = 0.01 15
          density = 0.0  13
          power = 1 1
          power = 0.01 0.2
          power = 0 0
        }
        energy
        {
          density = 1.0 0.75
          density = 0.3 0.75
          density = 0.2 0.7
          density = 0.07 0.65
          density = 0.035 0.25
          density = 0.0 0.2
        }
        size
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.8 0.9
          density = 0.2 0.85
          density = 0.06 0.7
          density = 0.01 0.6
          density = 0.0 0.4
        }
      }
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,-0.2
        fixedScale = 0.3
        emissionMult = 0.35
        name = plumeboundary
        modelName = RealPlume/Hoojiwana_FX/MPspike
        fixedEmissions = false
        sizeClamp = 50
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 5
        randConeEmit
        {
          density = 1.0 0
          density = 0.25 1
          density = 0.06 1.7
          density = 0 2
        }
        grow
        {
          density = 1.0 -0.99
          density = 0.8 0.0
          density = 0.2 0
          density = 0.1 0
          density = 0 0
        }
        xyForce
        {
          density = 1 0.05
          density = 0.25 0.1
          density = 0.06 0.45
          density = 0.01 0.75
          density = 0 1
        }
        logGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.2 2
          density = 0.1 7
          density = 0.0 10
        }
        logGrowScale
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.8 1.5
          density = 0.46 2
          density = 0.2 3
          density = 0.1 4
          density = 0.0 6
        }
        linGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 -5
          density = 0.46 0.0
          density = 0.2 3
          density = 0.035 20
          density = 0.0 25
        }
        speed
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.25 2.5
          density = 0.1 4
          density = 0.05 4.5
          density = 0.0 4
        }
        zForce
        {
          density = 1 1
          density = 0.2 1.02
          density = 0 1.04
        }
        emission
        {
          density = 1.0 2.0
          density = 0.8 2
          density = 0.5 3
          density = 0.2 4
          density = 0.1 4
          density = 0.05
          density = 0.01 6
          density = 0.0 7
          power = 1 1
          power = 0.01 0.2
          power = 0 0
        }
        energy
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.3 2
          density = 0.2 1.7
          density = 0.05 1.6
          density = 0.01 1
          density = 0.0 0.4
        }
        size
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.8 0.85
          density = 0.2 0.8
          density = 0.06 0.55
          density = 0.0 0.4
        }
      }
    }
  }

  @MODULE[ModuleEngines*]
  {
    @name = ModuleEnginesFX
    %powerEffectName = Kerolox-Upper
  }
}

// SRM-L
@PART[SR_Rocket_35_02]:FOR[zFinal]
{
  %EFFECTS
  {
    %Solid-Lower
    {
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        //Get the inputs from the other config.
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,-0.05
        fixedScale    = 0.25
        name = flare
        modelName = RealPlume/MP_Nazari_FX/KWbooster
        emission = 0.0 0
        emission = 0.01 0.2
        emission = 1.0 2
        speed = 0.0 1
        speed = 1.0 1.5
        offset = 0
        energy = 0.0 0.1
        energy = 1.0 0.1
        size = 0.0 0.6
        size = 1.0 0.6
        fixedEmissions = false
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 0.2
      }
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        //Get the inputs from the other config.
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,-.05
        fixedScale    = .2
        energy        = 0.65
        speed         = 1.25
        name = plume
        modelName = RealPlume/MP_Nazari_FX/KWbooster
        fixedEmissions = false
        sizeClamp = 50
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 0.2
        randConeEmit
        {
          density = 1 0.1
          density = 0 1
        }
        logGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.1 3
          density = 0.0 2
        }
        logGrowScale
        {
          density = 1.0 0.0
          density = 0.8 0.5
          density = 0.46 0.75
          density = 0.2 1
          density = 0.1 2
          density = 0.0 3
        }
        linGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.46 1
          density = 0.2 3
          density = 0.05 7
          density = 0.0 7
        }
        speed
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.46 2.5
          density = 0.2 2.5
          density = 0.05 3
          density = 0.0 3
        }
        xyForce
        {
          density = 1 0.95
          density = 0.24 0.9
          density = 0.0 1
        }
        emission
        {
          density = 1.0 4.0
          density = 0.8 3.5
          density = 0.2 3.5
          density = 0.1 2.9
          density = 0.05 2.3
          density = 0.0 2.25
          power = 1 1
          power = 0.01 0.2
          power = 0 0
        }
        energy
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.3 2
          density = 0.05 0.5
          density = 0.0 0.5
        }
        size
        {
          density = 1.0 0.8
          density = 0.8 0.65
          density = 0.2 0.55
        }
      }
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,2
        fixedScale    = 0.25
        name = smoke
        modelName = RealPlume/MP_Nazari_FX/smokebooster
        speed = 0.5
        grow = 0.0 0
        grow = 1.0 0.1
        renderMode = "Billboard"
        collide = true
        physical = true
        collideRatio = 0
        stickiness = 0.5
        sizeClamp = 100
        angle = 0.0 1.0
        angle = 45.0 1.0
        angle = 50.0 1.0
        distance = 0.0 1.0
        distance = 100.0 1.0
        distance = 110.0 1.0
        logGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 20
          density = 0.1 25
          density = 0.0 2
        }
        logGrowScale
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.8 2.5
          density = 0.46 3
          density = 0.2 3
          density = 0.1 3
          density = 0.0 5
        }
        linGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 0
          density = 0.46 0
          density = 0.2 0
          density = 0.05 5
          density = 0.0 10
        }
        emission
        {
          density = 1.0 5.0
          density = 0.05 4
          density = 0.0 0
          power = 1 1
          power = 0.01 0.2
          power = 0 0
        }
        energy
        {
          density = 1.0 3
          density = 0.3 3
          density = 0.05 0.1
          density = 0.0 0.0
        }
        size
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.8 1.2
          density = 0.6 2
          density = 0.2 3
          density = 0.0 7
        }
      }
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,-0.5
        fixedScale    = 0.1
        name = slag
        modelName = Squad/FX/SRB_Large
        emission = 0.0 0
        emission = 0.01 0.05
        emission = 1.0 0.2
        speed = 0.0 1
        speed = 1.0 1
        offset = 1
        size = 0.0 0.2
        size = 1.0 0.2
        fixedEmissions = false
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 0.2
        randConeEmit
        {
          density = 1 0.4
          density = 0.5 0.8
          density = 0.1 1
          density = 0 1
        }
        xyForce
        {
          density = 1 0.9
          density = 0.35 0.93
          density = 0.0 1
        }
        energy
        {
          density = 1.0 6
          density = 0.3 5
          density = 0.05 2
          density = 0.0 1.5
        }
      }
    }
  }
  
  @MODULE[ModuleEngines*]
  {
    @name = ModuleEnginesFX
    %powerEffectName = Solid-Lower
  }
}

// SRM-S
@PART[SR_Rocket_35_01]:FOR[zFinal]
{
  %EFFECTS
  {
    %Solid-Upper
    {
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,-0.05
        fixedScale    = 0.23
        name = flare
        modelName = RealPlume/MP_Nazari_FX/KWbooster
        emission = 0.0 0
        emission = 0.01 0.2
        emission = 1.0 2
        speed = 0.0 1
        speed = 1.0 1
        offset = 0
        energy = 0.0 0.1
        energy = 1.0 0.1
        size = 0.0 0.6
        size = 1.0 0.6
        fixedEmissions = false
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 0.2
      }
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,0
        fixedScale    = 0.2
        energy        = 0.35
        speed         = 1.25
        name = plume
        modelName = RealPlume/MP_Nazari_FX/KWbooster
        fixedEmissions = false
        sizeClamp = 50
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 0.2
        randConeEmit
        {
          density = 1 0.4
          density = 0 1
        }
        logGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.1 3
          density = 0.0 2
        }
        logGrowScale
        {
          density = 1.0 0.0
          density = 0.8 1.5
          density = 0.46 2
          density = 0.2 2
          density = 0.1 2
          density = 0.0 5
        }
        linGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.46 1
          density = 0.2 3
          density = 0.05 7
          density = 0.0 7
        }
        speed
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.46 2.5
          density = 0.2 2.5
          density = 0.05 3
          density = 0.0 3
        }
        xyForce
        {
          density = 1 0.95
          density = 0.24 0.9
          density = 0.0 1
        }
        emission
        {
          density = 1.0 4.0
          density = 0.8 3.5
          density = 0.2 3.5
          density = 0.1 2.9
          density = 0.05 2.3
          density = 0.0 2.25
          power = 1 1
          power = 0.01 0.2
          power = 0 0
        }
        energy
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.3 2
          density = 0.05 0.5
          density = 0.0 0.5
        }
        size
        {
          density = 1.0 0.8
          density = 0.8 0.65
          density = 0.2 0.55
        }
      }
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,0.5
        fixedScale    = 0.13
        name = smoke
        modelName = RealPlume/MP_Nazari_FX/smokebooster
        speed = 0.25
        grow = 0.0 0
        grow = 1.0 0.1
        renderMode = "Billboard"
        collide = true
        physical = true
        collideRatio = 0
        stickiness = 0.5
        sizeClamp = 100
        angle = 0.0 1.0
        angle = 45.0 1.0
        angle = 50.0 1.0
        distance = 0.0 1.0
        distance = 100.0 1.0
        distance = 110.0 1.0
        logGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 10
          density = 0.1 15
          density = 0.0 2
        }
        logGrowScale
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.8 2.5
          density = 0.46 3
          density = 0.2 3
          density = 0.1 3
          density = 0.0 5
        }
        linGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 0
          density = 0.46 0
          density = 0.2 0
          density = 0.05 5
          density = 0.0 10
        }
        emission
        {
          density = 1.0 5.0
          density = 0.05 4
          density = 0.0 0
          power = 1 1
          power = 0.01 0.2
          power = 0 0
        }
        energy
        {
          density = 1.0 3
          density = 0.3 3
          density = 0.05 0.1
          density = 0.0 0.0
        }
        size
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.8 1.2
          density = 0.6 2
          density = 0.2 3
          density = 0.0 7
        }
      }
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        //Get the inputs from the other config.
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,-0.1
        fixedScale    = 0.1
        name = slag
        modelName = Squad/FX/SRB_Large
        emission = 0.0 0
        emission = 0.01 0.05
        emission = 1.0 0.2
        speed = 0.0 1
        speed = 1.0 1
        offset = 1
        size = 0.0 0.2
        size = 1.0 0.2
        fixedEmissions = false
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 0.2
        randConeEmit
        {
          density = 1 0.4
          density = 0.5 0.8
          density = 0.1 1
          density = 0 1
        }
        xyForce
        {
          density = 1 0.9
          density = 0.35 0.93
          density = 0.0 1
        }
        energy
        {
          density = 1.0 6
          density = 0.3 5
          density = 0.05 2
          density = 0.0 1.5
        }
      }
    }
  }
  
  @MODULE[ModuleEngines*]
  {
    @name = ModuleEnginesFX
    %powerEffectName = Solid-Upper
  }
}

// SRM-XL
@PART[SR_Rocket_625_01]:FOR[zFinal]
{
  %EFFECTS
  {
    %Solid-Lower
    {
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        //Get the inputs from the other config.
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,-0.2
        fixedScale    = 0.4
        name = flare
        modelName = RealPlume/MP_Nazari_FX/KWbooster
        emission = 0.0 0
        emission = 0.01 0.2
        emission = 1.0 2
        speed = 0.0 1
        speed = 1.0 1.5
        offset = 0
        energy = 0.0 0.1
        energy = 1.0 0.1
        size = 0.0 0.6
        size = 1.0 0.6
        fixedEmissions = false
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 0.2
      }
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        //Get the inputs from the other config.
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,-0.1
        fixedScale    = .45
        energy        = 0.8
        speed         = 1.5
        name = plume
        modelName = RealPlume/MP_Nazari_FX/KWbooster
        fixedEmissions = false
        sizeClamp = 50
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 0.2
        randConeEmit
        {
          density = 1 0.1
          density = 0 1
        }
        logGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.1 3
          density = 0.0 2
        }
        logGrowScale
        {
          density = 1.0 0.0
          density = 0.8 0.5
          density = 0.46 0.75
          density = 0.2 1
          density = 0.1 2
          density = 0.0 3
        }
        linGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.46 1
          density = 0.2 3
          density = 0.05 7
          density = 0.0 7
        }
        speed
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.46 2.5
          density = 0.2 2.5
          density = 0.05 3
          density = 0.0 3
        }
        xyForce
        {
          density = 1 0.95
          density = 0.24 0.9
          density = 0.0 1
        }
        emission
        {
          density = 1.0 4.0
          density = 0.8 3.5
          density = 0.2 3.5
          density = 0.1 2.9
          density = 0.05 2.3
          density = 0.0 2.25
          power = 1 1
          power = 0.01 0.2
          power = 0 0
        }
        energy
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.3 2
          density = 0.05 0.5
          density = 0.0 0.5
        }
        size
        {
          density = 1.0 0.8
          density = 0.8 0.65
          density = 0.2 0.55
        }
      }
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,8
        fixedScale    = 0.35
        name = smoke
        modelName = RealPlume/MP_Nazari_FX/smokebooster
        speed = 1.75
        grow = 0.0 0
        grow = 1.0 0.1
        renderMode = "Billboard"
        collide = true
        physical = true
        collideRatio = 0
        stickiness = 0.5
        sizeClamp = 100
        angle = 0.0 1.0
        angle = 45.0 1.0
        angle = 50.0 1.0
        distance = 0.0 1.0
        distance = 100.0 1.0
        distance = 110.0 1.0
        logGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 20
          density = 0.1 25
          density = 0.0 2
        }
        logGrowScale
        {
          density = 1.0 2
          density = 0.8 2.5
          density = 0.46 3
          density = 0.2 3
          density = 0.1 3
          density = 0.0 5
        }
        linGrow
        {
          density = 1.0 0
          density = 0.46 0
          density = 0.2 0
          density = 0.05 5
          density = 0.0 10
        }
        emission
        {
          density = 1.0 5.0
          density = 0.05 4
          density = 0.0 0
          power = 1 1
          power = 0.01 0.2
          power = 0 0
        }
        energy
        {
          density = 1.0 3
          density = 0.3 3
          density = 0.05 0.1
          density = 0.0 0.0
        }
        size
        {
          density = 1.0 1
          density = 0.8 1.2
          density = 0.6 2
          density = 0.2 3
          density = 0.0 7
        }
      }
      MODEL_MULTI_SHURIKEN_PERSIST
      {
        transformName = ThrustTransform
        localRotation = 0,0,0
        localPosition = 0,0,-0.5
        fixedScale    = 0.1
        name = slag
        modelName = Squad/FX/SRB_Large
        emission = 0.0 0
        emission = 0.01 0.05
        emission = 1.0 0.2
        speed = 0.0 1
        speed = 1.0 1
        offset = 1
        size = 0.0 0.2
        size = 1.0 0.2
        fixedEmissions = false
        randomInitalVelocityOffsetMaxRadius = 0.2
        randConeEmit
        {
          density = 1 0.4
          density = 0.5 0.8
          density = 0.1 1
          density = 0 1
        }
        xyForce
        {
          density = 1 0.9
          density = 0.35 0.93
          density = 0.0 1
        }
        energy
        {
          density = 1.0 6
          density = 0.3 5
          density = 0.05 2
          density = 0.0 1.5
        }
      }
    }
  }
}

 

[Gordon Dry]

Does the module USI_Falloff have issues with KJR regarding not (quickly enough) falling off launch sticks at launch?

[New Horizons]

Testing this mod in KSP 1.7.1 the solids seem not to decouple automaticly when burned out. Anyone having this problem, too?

[Homozygote]

@New Horizons Your problem might be that you have one of the SRBs as your root part. They seem not to decouple when this is the case.

 

I'm having some trouble recovering my mini payloads from this mod. If they land in the sea, they sink, and if they're on land the truss & everything on it explodes on impact, even at  <5m/s. Seems like it's just the sounding rocket parts, nothing else has this problem. The payload i'm using consists of the truss, nosecone parachute, avionics package and two of the SR experiment packages.

I've also noticed that the fairings don't eject with any force, and when they do manage to break free of my craft they seem kind of weightless and fly around on their own. Don't know if it's normal/related.

 

Anyone got some ideas?

[Cavscout74]

3 hours ago, Homozygote said:

and if they're on land the truss & everything on it explodes on impact, even at  <5m/s. Seems like it's just the sounding rocket parts, nothing else has this problem

I've noticed this too.  I've been using a decoupler Tweakscaled to match the sounding rocket size mounted underneath the truss with decoupler staging turned off as a work-around.  This isn't the only mod I've encountered this behavior in either - ProbesPlus has a lander based on the Soviet Venera landers.  Their listed impact tolerance is 50 m/s IIRC but I've had them explode on landing with <5 m/s as well.  And I've used basically the same work-around for that one too.

[Homozygote]

Slight update if anyone's interested, I've found that this only occurs if the truss part hits flat ground while completely vertical. If there's any sideways oscillation at all, it doesn't seem to get destroyed. So, deploying the parachute within ~200m of the ground seems to avoid this problem 100% of the time as the payload is still swinging when it lands.

[bobjonesisthebest:D]

if I make a sounding rocket, after I recover it bugs out the vab/sph so I cant build anymore.

[goldenpsp]

4 minutes ago, bobjonesisthebest:D said:

if I make a sounding rocket, after I recover it bugs out the vab/sph so I cant build anymore.

That sounds like fun.

 

 

[Mars Mullo]

I have been placing an omni directional aerial which is slightly longer than teh truss and hangs below the truss... when landing it seems to either stick in the ground by the aerial or slowly topple.. effectively taking the truss away from any impact.

 

Also... i use mod janitor and it does not recognise the " found at the side of the road" as a company or manufacturer so I cant filter this mod items... any chance this could be improved on the next iteration please?

[Mars Mullo]

HI...  I have been watching and trying Mr Akrons skripts....

Anyways they work fine on stock items and I'm now trying it on Sounding rockets.

The first issue is .. Why is the KOS controller module have such a small memory in it?

AND

Mr Akrons script looks for science modules but doesn't seem to find the Sounding Rocket modules, even though they seem to tick all the boxes for having the right fields...

when running his script i get print outs for "searching parts of ship" and then the script gets lost int he process of forming a list with an index and filtering of any ship parts with the field "ModuleScienceExperiment".

So the parts have that field populated...  I have a sounding rocket with all four payloads (science experiments) on it and a thermometer, the thermometer works in the script but not the SR experiments.

Do the SR experiments need to be treated differently or in any special way to work with KOS?

Spoiler

function ListScienceModules{
    print("searching parts of ship").
    local scienceModules to list().
    local partList to ship:parts.
    for thePart in partList{
        local moduleList to thePart:modules.
        from{local i is 0.}until i = moduleList:length step{set i to i+1.}do{
            local theModule is moduleList.
            if (theModule = "ModuleScienceExperiment") or (theModule = "DMModuleScienceAnimate"){
                scienceModules:add(thePart:getModuleByIndex(i)).
            }                      
        }
    }
    return scienceModules.

Spink Akrons scripts are posted here:

 

[RoverDude]

Sorry trying to understand what it is you are asking to be improved?

[New Horizons]

I want to play with Sounding Rocket parts again. In earlier days there were fan patches for Ferram Aerospace, what is needed now? Does Sounding Rockets (especially fins) support Ferrams air model by default?

[bobjonesisthebest:D]

does this work on 1.8?

[Beetlecat]

On 10/26/2019 at 4:58 PM, bobjonesisthebest:D said:

does this work on 1.8?

Seems to work so far!

Even with FAR  -- even plays nice with Kerbalism as well.

The SRBs (motors) don't seem to have dV stats in the editor. Are they missing some bit of config ksp hooks onto to read that info?