HafCoJoe Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 One thing which I think would be cool as well as fix a few kerbal related bugs would be making a kerbal able to "walk"/step forwards on any surface he touches. So if you have a centrifuge the kerbal can actually walk around it. Rather than just getting glued to the side. Though would also probably fix the "falling-down-and-not-getting-back-up" glitch I see people getting when EVAing on moving rovers, or just on ground collision. Any chance of a similar thing coming in Beta?- Great devnotes today guys. My hats already off for the next update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radonek Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Question for you all. Who’s your favorite non-KSP YouTuber? is great if you are into minecraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotengineer Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 The aerodynamics sound a bit sketchy, both literally and figuratively, so until more details are released I am quite skeptical. However, as long as Ferram can mod the aero, I'm fine with whatever you do to it. Also on the aero front, will gravity turns be like real gravity turns? The current straight up until 10000m, pitch to 45, so-called gravity turn, is the reason I cannot play wit out FAR.Good devnotes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Iron Crown Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Also on the aero front, will gravity turns be like real gravity turns? The current straight up until 10000m, pitch to 45, so-called gravity turn, is the reason I cannot play wit out FAR.I play with stock aero, and I haven't done an ascent like that in years. Proper gravity turns are as possible in current stock aero as they are in FAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wabbit Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Jacksepticeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melfice Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Who’s your favorite non-KSP YouTuber?Nerd³ (NerdCubed) and GenerikB right now.Both pretty funny guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantab Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Regarding the idea of aerodynamic settings in the game, I say no, outside of "cheat" options like indestructible ships or zero drag. I don't feel the basic game physics should be messed with as a difficulty option, certainly not in a game like KSP. Difficulty options should come from the currency and resource systems, and maybe the part performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holzfallen Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Non-KSP youtuber:Crazy Russian Hacker. Very, very helpful little life hacks.http://youtube.com/user/CrazyRussianHacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
federicoaa Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Non-KSP:Freedyw: pretty funny videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDsO-0Yo5zpJk575nKXgMVASeda Baykara: she make music covers, maybe you could ask her to make the ksp music in violin https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCejpmjs8axtxALAOzTBRDXA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I like Hatfilms. Although they mainly play modded Minecraft, and I don't like the game at all, I like to hear them talking.Any word on new landing gear? The old one is almost unbearable with mk3 designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrayfishx Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Does that youtuber have to have a gaming channel or anyone? You kinda didn't make it clear and I'm between the two. If it has to be a gamer, it's dslyexcy. If not, KKortez.Nice to see an aero overhaul coming finally. Are you co-operating with Ferram on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwind Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Last we heard from ferram4 one or two days ago, they were not talking to him, though he apparently offered. He was very worried that something in the new system would make it impossible for him to continue maintaining FAR.Thankfully HarvesteR affirmed in his blog today that Squad is keeping an eye on moddability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodo Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I dont watch much youtube. Most of the youtubers annoy me. I like Scott Manley but he is a KSP person.As for the aerodynamic fixes. If FAR becomes an impossibility I will stop updating KSP from beyond .90. Which is sad due to the amount of time I have in the game. I dont see why they cant just add FAR to the game as an option for those people who want it. And for those who dont can do without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karriz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 As for the aerodynamic fixes. If FAR becomes an impossibility I will stop updating KSP from beyond .90. Which is sad due to the amount of time I have in the game. I dont see why they cant just add FAR to the game as an option for those people who want it. And for those who dont can do without it.I don't think the update could permanently break FAR. It's not dependent on the stock aerodynamics as far as I know, and can be fixed if there's something incompatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I suggest it look like a Dry Center of Mass marker (DCoM = Center of mass if all fuel tanks were empty, including monoprop and Xenon, in case you didn't know for some reason)... and to function like one too. That is really all you need to make sure your plane is stable in all situations because the plane's CoM will always be between one of the two markers regardless of fuel load.This isn't actually true. If you create a plane that has two fuel tanks, one at the front and one at the back, then the wet CoM and dry CoM would be very close together (could well be identical) but when only one of the fuel tanks is empty the CoM could easily be a considerable distance away. I'm not saying this is a sensible design for a vessel, just pointing out that the vessel's CoM does not always lie somewhere between the wet CoM and the dry CoM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alshain Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 This isn't actually true. If you create a plane that has two fuel tanks, one at the front and one at the back, then the wet CoM and dry CoM would be very close together (could well be identical) but when only one of the fuel tanks is empty the CoM could easily be a considerable distance away. I'm not saying this is a sensible design for a vessel, just pointing out that the vessel's CoM does not always lie somewhere between the wet CoM and the dry CoM...True, I hadn't considered that. It's kind of a rare case though, and the DCoM marker would still be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) True, I hadn't considered that. It's kind of a rare case though, and the DCoM marker would still be useful.I think Skylon is meant to work like that since it has the cargo bay in the middle, between the fuel tanks.And yes, DCoM would save some time. Wouldn't have to search for all those tanks and slide the sliders. Edited January 14, 2015 by Veeltch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizzaoverhead Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I’ve also started a large audio pass on the entire game, adding small sounds to just about every button and UI panel. This is still far from complete, but it’s amazing how much having these sounds in improves the feel of the game as a whole.Glad to hear the audio system getting some much-needed improvements! Sound has a huge effect on the player's perception of the game; theme, atmosphere, scale; there's a lot of scope there for really bringing KSP together as an experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaPPPa Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 <strong>anthony (rowsdower):</strong>question for you all. Who’s your favorite non-ksp youtuber? Any game. When I was heavily into Skyrim, I used to watch a lot of Gopher and Zemalf.Also, for those of you in the california bay area, i *might* have something of interest for you in the coming weeks. Fingers crossed and all that.Ooh... Bay Area resident here.. .. Keeping fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien_The_Unbeliever Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I’ve also started a large audio pass on the entire game, adding small sounds to just about every button and UI panel. This is still far from complete, but it’s amazing how much having these sounds in improves the feel of the game as a whole.So long as it is actual feedback, good. I can't tell you how much hatred I have for a particular touch-screen system I have to sometimes use that beeps whenever you touch the screen - whether you managed to hit an actual button or not. (That system also has no visual indicator that it's processing, incredibly unpredictable latency (between 0.1 second and 20+ seconds) and any user input provided whilst it's actually preparing a new screen will be immediately applied on that new screen when it's finally presented - making you fearful to try pressing a button again just in case the first hit did register) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torquemadus Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 An important question that needs to be asked about the new aerodynamics, is whether the new model is being designed with re-entry heating in mind. Re-entry heating is obviously a very important aspect of spacecraft design. If parts are being hidden behind nosecones and cargo bays for aerodynamic reasons, then presumably they can be used in the same way to protect vulnerable parts from heating?In my view, it would be illogical to put lots of effort into re-designing the aerodynamics model now, only to have to revisit it again at a later time to figure out how re-entry heating will work. Therefore, if Squad intend to add re-entry heating to the game in the future, they must presumably be putting some thought into it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpyyoza Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 One thing i would suggest to make building aircraft with the new aerodynamics easier and a touch more realistic is to put fuel in the wings and save the fuselage for the main payload and keep the CoM where you want it to be. Just saying, might make it easier, might not. Looking forward to the new aerodynamics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duxwing Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Devs! This poll reveals few want to keep their crazy contraptions flying: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/107227-Should-Squad-drop-backwards-compatibility-with-the-new-aerodynamics.-Duxwing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I play with stock aero, and I haven't done an ascent like that in years. Proper gravity turns are as possible in current stock aero as they are in FAR.Just curious, how much fuel to you waste either going so slowly that you're burning really far upward, or fighting air resistance because you're going really fast for your altitude? Or have you found a way to follow a 3rd option that I can't think of? I'm honestly curious, as I tried to do "real" gravity turns in stock and found them too damaging to my dV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmercy Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 <p><span><strong>Anthony (Rowsdower):</strong> Question for you all. Who’s your favorite non-KSP YouTuber? Any game.</span></p>TotalBiscuit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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