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[1.1.2] Kerbin-Side (v1.1.0) & Supplements

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djnattyd

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AlphaAsh for some reason all the location icons in the map screen have become black squares and the KS toolbar icon has become a white square in my install. The textures are there in the folder and haven't been altered in any way. Any clue what's happening?

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Sounds like either Active Texture Manager or TextureReplacer screwing them up.

EDIT - Related to this:

Is it possible to set up an active texture management system for this. I absolutely love this mod but it does hit the frame rate pretty hard even with a few mods running when near the KSC or any of the kerbinside places.

I don't use ATM anymore since I wanted my KSP development environment stripped down to essential mods only and ATM was an unstable mess last time I tried it - it actually increased the memory being used by KSP. I'm not exactly sure how to set up ATM, although I'm aware a lot of mods have been having toolbar icons mauled by ATM. I'd drop by that thread to find out what's the what. However...

KerbinSide's textures are tiny things and already compromise quality heavily for the sake of memory saving. The total number of textures is also relatively small for the number of models in KerbinSide - I re-use the same set and very rarely add anymore. If you really want ATM to squash them further, one, I doubt you'll really save much memory and two, you'd be better off with 1x1 single pixel colours for textures after the quality loss from ATM. Harsh but true.

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Hodo

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AlphaAsh,

I have ATM currently and it doesn't kill the textures if you run basic, if you run advanced it will kill all textures down to a 256bit mess. I am just trying to figure out why I am getting such a frame rate loss near the KSC with Kerbinside installed. I can launch from any other point in Kerbinside and get normal frame rates, but the KSC for some reason is taking a huge hit. Could be the damage model added to the buildings of the core KSC, and the physics engine trying to calculate things that don't need calculating. No errors are in my output.log and there are no real issues, it is odd.

Oh well, great mod, and I will just deal with the frame rate issues. They aren't that bad it is about 20-30 at the KSC with a 200 part vessel.

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Heya Hodo. I suspect it'll be the number of drawcalls causing the FPS hit in that case. I'll think about doing a lite version of KerbinSide that reduces the density of statics in heavy areas like the KSC.

I'd hazard a guess you've a low-end GPU as well and I don't deny that KerbinSide will hammer a GPU with the number of extra drawcalls at locations like the KSC. Unfortunately reducing texture sizes will do nothing to reduce drawcall rates - they're based on number of meshes in a model and number of textures.

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Heya Hodo. I suspect it'll be the number of drawcalls causing the FPS hit in that case. I'll think about doing a lite version of KerbinSide that reduces the density of statics in heavy areas like the KSC.

I'd hazard a guess you've a low-end GPU as well and I don't deny that KerbinSide will hammer a GPU with the number of extra drawcalls at locations like the KSC. Unfortunately reducing texture sizes will do nothing to reduce drawcall rates - they're based on number of meshes in a model and number of textures.

Not really a low end, I would say it is upper end of the mid grade GPUs. I would have to check when I get home I don't remember what it is off the top of my head.

Honestly I think my HDD is the biggest drawback on my rigg right now, it is an old 500gb 7200RPM HP drive. That thing is I think 6 years old now.

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Hmmm, odd... I'll have to double check my settings. All the positioning is wrong on mine, two buildings were partially merged. Just very odd.

Additionally, for those who want Remote Tech 2 support and too lazy to crash stuff into antennae to get the coordinates, here is my RT2 base station list.


GroundStations
{
    STATION
    {
        Guid = 5105f5a9-d628-41c6-ad4b-21154e8fc488
        Name = Mission Control
        Latitude = -0.131331503391266
        Longitude = -74.594841003418
        Height = 75
        Body = 1
        Antennas
        {
            ANTENNA
            {
                Omni = 7.5E+07
            }
        }
    }
    STATION
    {
        Guid = 5105f5a9-d628-41c6-ad4b-21154e8fc501
        Name = Tracking Station 2
        Latitude = 78.608117
        Longitude = 147.491623
        Height = 2817.58
        Body = 1
        Antennas
        {
            ANTENNA
            {
                Omni = 7.5E+07
            }
        }
    }
    STATION
    {
        Guid = 5105f5a9-d628-41c6-ad4b-21154e8fc502
        Name = Tracking Station 3
        Latitude = 20.45392
        Longitude = -78.093832
        Height = 3684.54
        Body = 1
        Antennas
        {
            ANTENNA
            {
                Omni = 7.5E+07
            }
        }
    }
    STATION
    {
        Guid = 5105f5a9-d628-41c6-ad4b-21154e8fc503
        Name = Tracking Station 4
        Latitude = 20.986161
        Longitude = -117.304872
        Height = 4204.48
        Body = 1
        Antennas
        {
            ANTENNA
            {
                Omni = 7.5E+07
            }
        }
    }
    STATION
    {
        Guid = 5105f5a9-d628-41c6-ad4b-21154e8fc504
        Name = Tracking Station 5
        Latitude = 14.733632
        Longitude = -127.017657
        Height = 2999.19
        Body = 1
        Antennas
        {
            ANTENNA
            {
                Omni = 7.5E+07
            }
        }
    }
    STATION
    {
        Guid = 5105f5a9-d628-41c6-ad4b-21154e8fc505
        Name = Tracking Station 6
        Latitude = 16.043645
        Longitude = -156.864196
        Height = 4704.55
        Body = 1
        Antennas
        {
            ANTENNA
            {
                Omni = 7.5E+07
            }
        }
    }
    STATION
    {
        Guid = 5105f5a9-d628-41c6-ad4b-21154e8fc506
        Name = Tracking Station 7
        Latitude = 3.329209
        Longitude = -37.145679
        Height = 2230.51
        Body = 1
        Antennas
        {
            ANTENNA
            {
                Omni = 7.5E+07
            }
        }
    }
STATION
    {
        Guid = 5105f5a9-d628-41c6-ad4b-21154e8fc507
        Name = KKVLA
        Latitude = 10.3559
        Longitude = 227.3936
        Height = 430.0
        Body = 1
        Antennas
        {
            ANTENNA
            {
                Omni = 10.5E+07
            }
        }
    }
STATION
    {
        Guid = 5105f5a9-d628-41c6-ad4b-21154e8fc508
        Name = Arakebo
        Latitude = 8.2517
        Longitude = 179.4219
        Height = 430.0
        Body = 1
        Antennas
        {
            ANTENNA
            {
                Omni = 25.5E+07
            }
        }
    }
STATION
    {
        Guid = 5105f5a9-d628-41c6-ad4b-21154e8fc509
        Name = Kosmodrome
        Latitude = 0.138
        Longitude = 217.1527
        Height = 430.0
        Body = 1
        Antennas
        {
            ANTENNA
            {
                Omni = 7.5E+07
            }
        }
    }
}

OMG!!!!

My Lazy ass thanks you!!!

So to download this I need to download Kerbal Konstructs?

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BahamutoD

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My mem usage runs at about 2.6gb around KSC with All-in-one, but after spawning at the Area 110011 runway, memory usage jumps up to about 3.6gb. After about a minute of flying around, I crash from the memory limit. What is it about that area that eats up a whole gig of memory? (Is it just me?)

Edit: This would also happen with only the Area 110011 runway - without the dish array.

Edit2:

I looked into it some more. I was able to fly around for a while without crashing, and suddenly- randomly, the mem usage dropped back down to ~2.6gb. Then while reverting a flight, game crashed at about 2.9gb with nothing outstanding in the log file. I don't think I can blame Kerbin Side... just KSP being KSP.

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My mem usage runs at about 2.6gb around KSC with All-in-one, but after spawning at the Area 110011 runway, memory usage jumps up to about 3.6gb. After about a minute of flying around, I crash from the memory limit. What is it about that area that eats up a whole gig of memory? (Is it just me?)

Edit: This would also happen with only the Area 110011 runway - without the dish array.

Ola chap. I'll take another look at the runway model. I did have some odd graphical tearing on a couple of faces in an early version which seemed to mysteriously fix themselves and I'm wondering whether some faces with more than one material has slipped in. Possibly KSP is still having some kind of fit over it. Pull the mu and cfg for now if you can make do without Area 110011 and I'll push for a new version of KerbinSide asap (KK's been getting all my time lately).

EDIT - Other thing I'll check is the colliders. Maybe I've exceeded the limit on a mesh collider and KSP's physics is getting its knickers twisted.

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v0.40 All of It In 1 available (now exclusively) from KerbalStuff.

All individual packs have also been updated. Several packs have been merged together. Find them in the OP.

kside040promo.jpg

Changelog:

  • Increased global coverage further with...
  • Nine new airfields.
  • Five new helibases.
  • Six new multilaunch bases.
  • Multilaunches are a combination rocket pad, helipad and runway.
  • Lots of new models, including a combination VAB and SPH and modular crawlerways.
  • Many bases expanded.
  • Included latest Kerbal Konstructs (v0.6.5) stuffed full of new features.

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Is there any reason why some of the icons in the map view might be black squares? It seems to be a few in each category so I can't find a pattern that differentiates the ones that aren't showing properly.

If you're using ATM, that's probably the culprit. I'll investigate further.

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If you're using ATM, that's probably the culprit. I'll investigate further.

I am. I also DDSified all of my textures which might also have something to do with it. I'll have to do some testing to find out for sure...

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