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I just built a friggin VTOL aircraft using mk2 expansion in my personal science save, I launched and landed vertically without destroying anything, and broke the sound barrier (at least, I think I did, I was focused on keeping it stable, but there were atmosphere effects going on), there's still some links to fix, but it works pretty well.
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@Atlas2342 I have a few ideas being tossed around, but I'm still not the best at planes and I suuuuuuuuuuuck at SSTOs, hopefully the mods I have will help.