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Well, it worked as intended. The main problem with these "Houston" is that sometimes these problems are harmless. But sometimes, they are not. And not too much rarely, plain catastrophic. So the only safe measure is to eye ball the thing to check for the catastrophic ones. But sorting the problems are so much trouble as to fix the problems, so fixing them is the only rational line of action. Fortunately, the most commons glitches are already diagnosed, what makes my life a bit easier. You have two copies of TweakScale installed on your rig: [LOG 14:18:22.886] AssemblyLoader: Loading assembly at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\TweakScale\Plugins\KSPe.Light.TweakScale.dll [LOG 14:18:22.903] AssemblyLoader: Loading assembly at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\TweakScale\Plugins\Scale.dll [LOG 14:18:23.125] AssemblyLoader: Loading assembly at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\TweakScale-2.4.3.2\GameData\TweakScale\Plugins\KSPe.Light.TweakScale.dll [LOG 14:18:23.136] AssemblyLoader: Loading assembly at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\TweakScale-2.4.3.2\GameData\TweakScale\Plugins\Scale.dll Delete C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\TweakScale-2.4.3.2 and if a further Houston happens, publish your new KSP.log again.
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Hi! Sorry for that. On the same message it's said to publish the KSP.log on some file share service so I can investigate the matter! Please read this Thread for instructions on sharing the KSP.log:
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Your mileage will vary. Greatly. Newer KSP versions are known to improve performance to machines that have some juice to space. On machines already near its limits, things gone slower. So, it will vastly depends on the machine itself. Let me explain it using my MacPotato as an example. This machine runs MacOS 10.12, has a mobile i5 3210M (3 Megabyte cache) and 16G (1600MHz - PC3-12800) of RAM. And an Intel Graphics 3000. Stop laughing, please. By the nature of some work on some Add"ons I"m mangle a bit, i had fired up every single available KSP version available to me on Steam, including the 1.0 Demo, and got to this: KSP 1.0 Demo - Runs marvelously. 1.1 <= KSP < 1.3 - Runs very fine. KSP 1.3.x - Same thing, but a bit slower than previous versions. Some tweaks on the Game Settings were necessary to handle large vessels without loosing too much FPS. 1.3.0 <= KSP <= 1.4.3 - Approximately the same performance, but I had to downgrade the Textures to 2X to get the same performance. Using antialiasing is prohibitive now. Keeping the textures at 1X lowered the FPS a bit. Only a problem on vessels with more than 150 to 200 parts. But I still could fly 1.000 parts vessels. Painfully. KSP 1.4.4 <= KSP < 1.7 - Performance improved a bit, but using 1X textures were out of question. I started to get nasty problems on stuttering on the KSP scene when using Kerbal Konstructs. KSP 1.7 - Using Textures better then 4X is out of question. And I had to use 8X to get acceptable FPS on larger vessels that I could handle comfortably before. So, no. In my case, upgrading KSP was counter-productive on the performance criteria. On my specific case, the problem is memory bandwidth on the GPU. The GPU is weak, but it can handle some load (I run Elite dangerous on this thing). What happens is that the GPU RAM is limited to 540 Megabytes (or something like this), and once textures gets bigger (and 1.7 got a huge revamp on some textures), they need more GPU to be handled. And once you blow the GPU RAM, the GPU starts to fecth data from the CPU RAM - this border is costly. By downgrading the Textures level, I save some GPU RAM preventing the border crossing. The same for the antialiasing. Using antialiasing costs twice (or more) in memory bandwidth, further taxing something that is weak on my rig. Until KSP 1.2 IIRC I could sue some antialising. On 1.3 it started to tax the FPS, and from 1.4.4 and above, no way. 1.4.4 added the PQS cache, if memory serves me well, so this extra memory bandwidth usage can explain a bit what's happened on my rig - but it's a guess, I didn't really researched the matter. TL;DR: publish your rig details, so I can estimate better what can happen to ir as you upgrade KSP.
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Granted. he managed to get some gold, but Clint Eastwood ended up hanging him on a tree after killing the Bad guy. I wish would be a fourth movie from the Dollar Trilogy so I can keep making jokes with!
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totm march 2020 So what song is stuck in your head today?
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Did you used the latest versions for the Add'Ons? Because I did, and my tests ended up with the 15 warnings about not yet supported parts only. No fatalities. — — — POST EDIT — — — I found an anomaly. Not sure if it is playing havoc with you or not, but it's an anomaly nevertheless. You have an Add'On installed twice, in GameData/GameData: [LOG 13:37:56.318] AssemblyLoader: Loading assembly at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\GameData\KTech\Plugins\KTechCategoryMaster.dll [LOG 13:37:56.320] AssemblyLoader: Loading assembly at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\GameData\KTech\Plugins\SMI_APUcontroller.dll [WRN 13:40:38.470] Texture resolution is not valid for compression: 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\GameData\LShipPartsRequired\Agencies\FNE_scaled.png' - consider changing the image's width and height to enable compression Delete GameData/GameData and see what happens. You already have KTech installed on C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\SMArmory\KTech , what I think it's another mistake. Install Ktech directly on GameData, not inside SMArmory folder. [LOG 13:37:56.318] Load(Assembly): GameData/KTech/Plugins/KTechCategoryMaster [LOG 13:37:56.318] AssemblyLoader: Loading assembly at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\GameData\KTech\Plugins\KTechCategoryMaster.dll [LOG 13:37:56.327] Load(Assembly): SMArmory/KTech/Plugins/KTechCategoryMaster [LOG 13:37:56.327] AssemblyLoader: Loading assembly at C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\SMArmory\KTech\Plugins\KTechCategoryMaster.dll
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We have been notified by the Coolness Abuse Bureau that we were using too much likes to the point that the International Reserves were getting depleted, as they could not be renewed fast enough. To prevent an action from the Bureau, the Forum had to temporarily disable the Likes until they publish a Sustained Likes Use Plan that would prevent the Coolness abuse, avoiding the premature shortage of this natural resource. On a side note, I believe this is a plot from the Flat Kerbin Society aiming to undermine Kerbal Space Exploration.
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I`m a dumb-SAS!!! I forgot to install B9 Aerospace Core!!! #facepalm It's not incredible how things usually work fine when we install them correctly??? @DodoOnTheMün - I`m giving it another try. Let's see what happens without any SM Add`Ons installed. Will not be a complete test, but anything I manage to detect and fix now will help you, and with some luck, minimize the surface of exposition for the others Add'Ons. — — — POST EDIT — — — Sorry, dude. I replicated your installment, except by the SM Add'Ons. Everything worked by the book. So it's really something on that Add'Ons. I'm still on it.
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[Minimum KSP: 1.12.2] Heisenberg - Airships Part Pack
Lisias replied to Angelo Kerman's topic in KSP1 Mod Releases
@Violet_Wyvern, @Dark_Derp, forget Crimson`s Skies. I just watched The Princess and the Pilot (really love Steam Punk animes!), and,, dudes, this are something worth to see flying on KSP. The Shinden aircraft is also very nive! https://impdb.fandom.com/wiki/The_Princess_and_the_Pilot?file=2018-08-23_23h43_14.jpg -
This is going to take longer than I expected. I managed to give this a try tonight (had to do some work on the weekend.. ), but… Spacedock is down... Well, I did it in the yet harder way and installed everthing but the SM Add'Ons. They are not available anymore, and I'm not finding my Archive - I think it is on the machine that had a hard disk crash (the Archive is safe, the victim is a 10Krpm SCSI disk used for secondary tasks- already bought the replacement, but I didn't had time to fix the server neither - damn!). Not being enough, I just got this while writing this post: (sigh) I will try to fix this Fuel Switch problem, then I will try to check if there's anything wrong without any SM Add'Ons installed, then I will (eventually) fix my server to get access to the Archive, and the I will try again. Yeah. Life can be Sun on our Beach sometimes.
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Neither to me.
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[1.11.X] All Tweak!!! -0.7 [23rd/October/2019]
Lisias replied to VoidCosmos's topic in KSP1 Mod Releases
What part? Please name the part with problems and publish your KSP.log file. Chances are that it's an "unholy interaction" with a third-party Add'On that doesn't expects a stack as scale type. -
totm march 2020 So what song is stuck in your head today?
Lisias replied to SmileyTRex's topic in The Lounge
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Well, it's 10 years since my last Deutschunterricht, but from what I got to understand, CKAN is complaining that some installed Add'Ons are not compatible to 1.6.1 - the version between parenthesis is the KSP version that Add'On is known to support. Better burn time, for example, was compiled to work on 1.7.1 This doesn't mean, necessarily, that the Add'On will not run on the 1.6.1, but the Maintainer will probably dismiss bug reports due it. Usually, you should install a older version, usually the last version with official support for the KSP you are running. You can also tell CKAN to ignore this, if you known the Add'On will run for sure - what usually means you need to run and check things for yourself and then check an option somewhere. You will need to ask for Details on the CKAN thread. It's certainly a old patch playing havoc with newest versions of some Add'Ons. As long you don't use a Part with a broken patch, you are safe - the hard part is to remember all that parts, so usually is safer to fix the patches. Not every bad patching ends in disaster, but some do - and since it's way easier to fix everything than to cherry pick each possible bug to classify them into "safe" and "unsafe", this is the approach I'm taking. In a way or another, use S.A.V.E. . It's a good preventive measure. That said, I run into some difficulties while trying to download your LOG. The Mega site shows message about Requesting Account Data, then Receiving Account Data, then Decrypting. But then my own files are displayed, without any trace of a shared KSP.log somewhere.I searched for it on the Activities Log, Incoming Shares, etc, but no dice. Perhaps you forgot to grant permissions to the file be read by third parties? A way to check for yourself is to search for "[TweakScale] ERROR:" on the log file, take note of the partnames being mentioned on the log line, and then search for every "Applying update" mentioned on the same log line as the partname you took notes. This will list every single patch that was applied to the part, and with that information you can eye ball the patch looking for problems. It's a bit cumbersome without some tools as GREP to help you, but good Text Editors as Notepad++ or TextWrangler work with regular expresions what's essentially what GREP does (on the shell prompt).
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Got it: [LOG 09:26:14.222] [TweakScale] INFO: WriteDryCost Concluded : 1511 parts found ; 0 checks failed ; 0 parts with hotfixes ; 0 parts with issues overruled ; 51 Show Stoppers found; 9 Sanity Check failed; 560 unscalable parts. As usual, 9 Sanity Check failed meaning 9 parts that TweakScale needs to be updated to learn how to cope with them, and until there I had withdraw support to prevent some carnage. TweakScale 2.4.4.x series will solve that. About that 51 Show Stoppers: [LOG 09:26:13.710] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Decoupler.1p5 (TD-18 Decoupler) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.711] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Decoupler.4 (TD-50 Decoupler) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.711] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Separator.1p5 (TS-18 Stack Separator) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.712] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Separator.4 (TS-50 Stack Separator) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.712] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1p5.Strut.Decoupler (Size 1.5 Decoupler) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.713] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part LiquidEngineKE-1 (Kerbodyne KE-1 "Mastodon" Liquid Fuel Engine) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.714] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part LiquidEngineLV-T91 (LV-T91 "Cheetah" Liquid Fuel Engine) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.715] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part LiquidEngineLV-TX87 (LV-TX87 "Bobcat" Liquid Fuel Engine) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.717] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part LiquidEngineRE-I2 (RE-I2 "Skiff" Liquid Fuel Engine) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.717] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part LiquidEngineRE-J10 (RE-J10 "Wolfhound" Liquid Fuel Engine) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.719] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part LiquidEngineRK-7 (RK-7 "Kodiak" Liquid Fueled Engine) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.720] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part LiquidEngineRV-1 (RV-1 "Cub" Vernier Engine) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.720] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part monopropMiniSphere (Stratus-V Minified Monopropellant Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.720] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1p5.Monoprop (FL-R5 RCS Fuel Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.720] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1p5.Size0.Adapter.01 (FL-A150 Fuel Tank Adapter) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.721] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1p5.Size1.Adapter.01 (FL-A151L Fuel Tank Adapter) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.721] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1p5.Size1.Adapter.02 (FL-A151S Fuel Tank Adapter) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.721] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1p5.Size2.Adapter.01 (FL-A215 Fuel Tank Adapter) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.722] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1p5.Tank.01 (FL-TX220 Fuel Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.722] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1p5.Tank.02 (FL-TX440 Fuel Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.722] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1p5.Tank.03 (FL-TX900 Fuel Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.722] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1p5.Tank.04 (FL-TX1800 Fuel Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.722] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1p5.Tank.05 (FL-C1000 Fuel Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.722] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size3.Size4.Adapter.01 (Kerbodyne S3-S4 Adapter Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.723] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size4.EngineAdapter.01 (Kerbodyne Engine Cluster Adapter Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.723] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size4.Tank.01 (Kerbodyne S4-64 Fuel Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.723] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size4.Tank.02 (Kerbodyne S4-128 Fuel Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.723] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size4.Tank.03 (Kerbodyne S4-256 Fuel Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.723] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size4.Tank.04 (Kerbodyne S4-512 Fuel Tank) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.723] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part roverWheelM1-F (RoveMax M1-F Rover Wheel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.723] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Size1to0ServiceModule (SM-6A Service Module) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.724] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part ServiceModule18 (SM-18 Service Module) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.724] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part ServiceModule25 (SM-25 Service Module) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.724] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part kv1Pod (KV-1 'Onion' Reentry Module) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.725] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part kv2Pod (KV-2 ‘Pea’ Reentry Module) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.725] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part kv3Pod (KV-3 'Pomegranate' Reentry Module) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.725] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Mk2Pod (Mk2 Command Pod) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.726] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part MEMLander (Munar Excursion Module (M.E.M.)) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.726] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part EquiTriangle0 (SP-T06 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.726] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part EquiTriangle1 (SP-T12 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.726] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part EquiTriangle1p5 (SP-T18 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.726] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part EquiTriangle2 (SP-T25 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.727] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Panel0 (SP-S06 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.727] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Panel1 (SP-S12 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.727] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Panel1p5 (SP-S18 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.727] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Panel2 (SP-S25 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.727] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Triangle0 (SP-R06 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.728] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Triangle1 (SP-R12 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.728] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Triangle1p5 (SP-R18 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.728] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part Triangle2 (SP-R25 Structural Panel) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 09:26:13.729] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part HeatShield1p5 (Heat Shield (1.875m)) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). However… I know these 51 parts, this had happen before! And looking for the right substring on your log, I found 51 instances of this log line: [LOG 09:22:10.606] Config(@PART[Decoupler_1p5]) TweakscaleMakingHistoryConfigs/Coupling/@PART[Decoupler_1p5] [LOG 09:22:10.606] Config(@PART[Decoupler_4]) TweakscaleMakingHistoryConfigs/Coupling/@PART[Decoupler_4] <49 more> So yeah. TweakscaleMakingHistoryConfigs strikes again. Delete GameData/TweakscaleMakingHistoryConfigs and everything will be fine. If you are using CKAN, make sure to uninstall it from there, so CKAN don't install it back. Welcome! Me too!
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Well, since the CKAN guys released a ready to use APP for the Mac, I though exactly as you and made a test on my machine to see if it was a bug on the CKAN ou netkan files. Well, at least for TweakScale it worked as expected on my tests, so things are a bit more complicated than that. If this is a CKAN bug, it's something very hairy hidden somewhat on the code - simple tests worked fine for me. I don't think it's something on the netkan file because on my test TweakScale was installed correctly - and on the past, when I messed up the netkan, what ended up installed was the Extras directory contents, not the TweakScale binaries. Talk to the CKAN guys about this issue, explain every step you did and give this same KSP.log to them so they can try to reproduce the problem.
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I just installed CKAN (it now works fine on Mac! Nice!), but didn't found a way to install it yet. I will try to forge an entry for the TMHC and see what happens. Chances are that CKAN is using a local cache for that file, however - I think it's hairy for Spacedock allowing downloading of deleted Add'Ons. About the original author, it's not his fault and I don't see why I should bother him - at least, yet. He deleted his Add'On from the Scene, he had act to prevent the mess. I don't think it's reasonable to tell the CKAN guys to delete the entry from the CKAN database neither. This Add'On once existed, it's part of the CKAN's history, and I don't like deleting history as a way to solve present problems. Not to mention that this one may had bit me in the SAS now, but who knows if this would not be useful later? The inherent problem is older, deprecated Add'Ons being installed and breaking things, not TMHC - and, definitively, not the older, deprecated Add'Ons that still work. I think that a new feature on CKAN would be a better idea: a blacklist to be updated by the Community, not by the Add'On Authors, listing incompatibilities that are discovered over time. But I'm brainstorming on the thing, perhaps a yet better idea exists.
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Your installment is somewhat messy. There're some missing dependencies for some Add'Ons, but your man source of problems right now is two different TweakScale installments on your GameData! [WRN 13:24:34.521] Cannot create config from file 'D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\GameData\TweakScale\Examples.cfg'. <CUT> [WRN 13:24:38.486] Cannot create config from file 'D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\TweakScale\Examples.cfg'. <CUT> Version 4.0.2.0 D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\GameData\ModuleManager.4.0.2.dll Version 3.1.1.0 D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\ModuleManager.3.1.1.dll There are some Add'Ons mistakenly installed on GameData/GameData . Move everything inside GameData/GameData to GameData (delete what's duplicated), and at least the worst problems should go way. If anything persists, publish a new KSP.log and ModuleManager.ConfigCache for further analysis.
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The hard part of the deal is that, in reality, things were probably "broke" for almost a year. What's changing on the TweakScale 2.4.3 series is that, now, TweakScale knows about the breakage and yells every time it finds something that can do some damage. A (somewhat) comprehensive essay about the known issues can be found here. There're many reasons these things happens, but IMHO the most commons are: People borks. All the time. But sometimes we fail to detect and fix the borks. Things change. Not always for better, but they change. But usually we fail to cope with the changes. The Eco System changed. The Add'On Scene we have today is way different from the Scene at the 1.3.1 times. Some things are better, some others are "worse". Usual stuff, nothing special about it. Communication failures. And Language Barrier can be a Sun on our Beach sometimes. Not to mention cultural differences. Complexity. Boy, this KSP thingy is complex, believe me. Windows 95 level of complexity. Yes, I'm that old. Most (if not virtually all) problems, nowadays, are happening due the interaction between Add'Ons. Every single one of them usually works pretty fine by themselves (we are not too much stupid , we detect obvious problems fast), but when you shove a bunch on them on an installment, friction starts and eventually the subsequent heat melts something. What makes things hard is that we can easily detect what had melted, but it's pretty hard to detect what was causing the heat, when the engine stops and everything is cool down (assuming the thing didn't exploded, right Elon?). What doesn't means that we cannot do something about. The key word is "we". We need to work together to be able to detect and fix most of the problems we have now. Please publish your KSP.log and ModuleManager.ConfigCache so we can try to figure out what's happening. In the worst case scenario, we can cook HotFixes and Overrules to keep your savegame ongoing in a sane way while we can't effectively fix the problem (it can happens sometimes, and until the moment, always by non technical reasons).
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I will need your full KSP.log and ModuleManager.ConfigCache in order to check what's happening. It sounds like something patched these parts with "type = free", that it's the scaling that does what you describes. The Standard TweakScale distribution is working fine for Mk2. The Add'On I know that does that is All Tweak!! . Did you have it installed? ERRATA Nope, All Tweak uses stack, just checked. I need your KSP.log and ModuleManager.ConfigCache to figure out what's happening
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Hi I found this idiosyncrasy on the Advanced Search: "Curse Representative" and "New Members" are duplicated. This can be or not a problem - if this duplication is happening on the DB, you may have two different IDs for the same thing. In time, there's a Thread for Forum bugs? I don't thing creating a new thread just for this is a productive measure. Cheers.
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I'm toast!