SunlitZelkova

Not to go out on an OT tangent, but JFK didn’t really believe in space exploration beyond any other politician. Apollo was very much a one and done thing even before he was assassinated. I have seen one speculation that the program may have even been cancelled sometime during his second term (prior to ‘68) had he lived. Doing it to honor his memory was a big reason why it was able to survive in Congress as long as it did, as well as why the goal of landing prior to ‘70 was achieved.

I like to think I keep up to date on my internet memes, but until 2 weeks ago I never heard of this Mr Beast. When I did and had a look at a few of his videos, I wondered the same thing I always wonder about 'personality' centered YT channels. But hey if he gets the good message out there, he's got my blessing It’s speculated he has a seat on DearMoon. He posted a cryptic video wearing a SpaceX shirt or something a year or so ago.

I think you have to be able to appreciate and support human spaceflight to be in awe of it. Unlike on Mars or the outer planets where a human presence would contribute scientifically, most of the science that can be done by humans on the Moon that relates to the Moon can be done by robots. The Moon is really only useful for studying how humans do on the Moon. Humans will be deployed to the Moon in such a capacity* over this decade and the next that we probably could have done the lunar science in a series of robotic missions funded with the same amount of money used for Artemis, except on a slightly better timeline. *That is, barely

As the tweet says, SLS launched 27 minutes after a Ceres-1 from Jiuquan! Makes me wonder what the record minimum time between launches in two different countries is. Also, some giggles . Appears to be fake though. EDIT- Ninja’d? I assumed it would make sense to post it here too though.

820th Main Center for Missile Attack Warning just got the false contact of their lives.

GMT is five hours ahead of EST. So 1:37 EST. 10:37 for me.

Isn’t that outside the 2 hour window? Or are you in a different time zone?

The lady doing the narration on the NASA stream just skipped the word “first”, describing Artemis I as a mission that will return us to the Moon in 50 years. Could have been my speaker cutting out, but quite an ironic mistake

Well, at the very least I suppose the Constellation rover has made headlines in the Desert RATS 2022, so it’s more acceptable. I’m surprised they don’t do outsourcing for animations, I’m sure there a number of people out there who would love to give us a video of the real Artemis architecture (with Starship HLS) for little to no cost, and it would be high quality too.

Not just random landers, I swear I just saw Altair in an animation in one of their intermission videos just now.

Well, either the aggressor or both (if both are the instigators) would probably be dismissed. Such a scenario is nigh impossible, however. Astronauts specifically train to work coherently together. Think the level of professionalism *cough cough* seen on nuclear powered submarines. That's how disciplined astronauts are*. I coughed because an extremely disturbing article emerged not too long ago regarding the behavior of seamen on British submarines. That's a discussion for another forum though. *Are supposed to be.

Failure modes of wind turbines is something I didn’t realize I needed. A disaster might kill SLS but I’m a little skeptical about Orion. Also, thinking about it more, this is a really weird statement. Even if NASA switches wholly to contracted launches, there is no way they are “getting out of the spaceflight business”. There is no way the private industry will be able to fund what NASA does now. Even if Axiom might be able to take over some research conducted by astronauts in the future, I don’t think we will really see a private astronaut corps on the scale of NASA’s for a long time. I assumed you did not include probes, but ironically I think probes are actually easier to “commercialize” than human spaceflight, because Starship will allow larger “dumb” probes to be built using more off the shelf materials. EDIT- What I mean is SLS alone does not represent NASA’s involvement in “spaceflight”.

Thanks! ‘‘Twas interesting indeed. Makes me wonder what the possibilities of non-nuclear EMP based terrorism are.

Heated conversations about peak oil won’t end well? I see what you did there! (I of course understand you were being serious too lol)

Fair point. Agreed. I just think that will be humanity’s downfall, not resource exhaustion.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20221110_25/ LM-5B fairing half and other debris, presumably from Mengtian, found in Filipino waters. Philippines says it will move to ratify OST. They signed in 1967 but have not ratified it. No damage this time, but a tad concerning!

This means the projected (theorized?) cargo version of the Next Generation Crewed Spacecraft may have been cancelled or put on hold. This makes me wonder if Tianzhou will launch on the single stick LEO version of the LM-5DY in the future, making China’s space station resupply fully semi-reusable and somewhat on par with Cargo Dragon in terms of economics.

@sevenperforce

What with all of the current events that have happened over the past few years, tacking on future $8,000 per gallon gas prices makes it seem like Fallout is becoming real life. “The fall of civilization” is very different from comparably minor events like pandemics and wars. It is also bad for business. I am not a “true believer” in corporate wisdom, but I am not pessimistic either. Note that unlike climate change, the exhaustion of fossil fuels is something that can be “seen” and directly endangers the companies themselves.

Nice!

He said other thingS. He was referring to how not only the Moon shot, but also the country’s efforts to improve the standard of living, implement civil rights, defend against communism and so on were among the other things the US was challenging because the US doesn’t back down when things get hard, but instead digs in and strives ever more valiantly*. *Kennedy’s opinion and this is historical analysis, not a political statement ANYWAYS If fossil fuels were to run out, there would probably still be alternative sources for such materials, but the upheaval from their loss would cause immense damage. An exhaustion of fossil fuels would likely be predictable, however. Providers would have an incentive to prepare alternatives so as to not lose their business, while the information would likely be public so other sectors of society could prepare too.

It’s hard to see this as a positive when most of what is being done now seems to be considered “good enough” by leaders and businesses. 2.8 degrees over 4 degrees… the USSR didn’t collapse into a nuclear civil war, but millions still died in the 1990s in the ensuing economic crisis… I also dislike when climatologists try to play ecologist. Pollution is one thing but I think we are near or at the ability to take GG to zero technology wise. The issue is how to replace and retire GG without wrecking the economy and society.

I assume we wouldn’t see a commercialized SLS replacement program until the 2030s, so they’ve got time. Has there ever been a pressed launch with this level of known issues before? I suppose Challenger was one known issue somewhat concealed by management, but it feels like all the red lights are blinking here.

The first H3 flight article has undergone a static fire, appears to have been nominal. Launch is scheduled for some time prior to the end of FY2022 (March 31st, 2023). I did not realize the JAXA terminology for a static fire is Captive Firing Test. This is seen in some translated materials too, apparently.