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@Bej Kerman like before ill number my responses from top down. 1. Again, this sounds like background vs foreground. Supply missions vs construction. I dont see how they can take delivering, installing, removing sections of a station or crew swaps or high precision (as an example) geostationary or multinode comm networks as a background thing. 2. Ill just quote myself from earlier: Sorry but no tutorial written or video could do what mechjeb did. 3. And for those of us who do not do certain aspects w/out automation even the first time? I for one have not played ksp ONCE in more than 2-3 YEARS because of various reasons that both personal and private and am going to hurt badly from rust when ksp2 comes. Should a player in my situation who relied on mechjeb to learn and then deal with tedium be punished? Because thats the vibe im getting here. “It can be do e by hand so autopilot is useless. Buck up, do it, dont complain.” Thats the vibe im getting. 4. [snip] Oh and btw the debate about making mechjeb stock precedes by a small margin the make dark multiplayer stock by a bit. Its just that the fans of that mod got what they wanted while those of us who have been vocal in the past about mechjeb still have not been given the same deference and respect. We seem to be dismissed or ignored. Now, lets correct this fallacy idea. Lets be clear here. I have no interest in multiplayer. The fact is it is NOT CRITICAL to making the game function. Period. By extension ap is not full critical but objectively is a higher priority than mp as Autopilot adds functionality to the core game and its mechanics where multiplayer objectively does NOT. Let me be absolutely clear: my assertion that multiplayer isnt critical isnt false. Its fact. I could extend your own logic and flip it and still not be wrong. A feature that adds functionality like say making engineer redux to stock is OBJECTIVELY adding function. A feature that adds a set of parts to make a space telescope adds functionality and mission options is again OBJECTIVELY adding function. Im absolutely done with this. 103002042023

@Bej Kerman so i dont have to fight my phone or the forum your post at 0811 is going to be numbered 1-4 from the top down. I hope this makes my reply to it coherent for you as you read it. 1. I read that certain routine missions will be handled in the background, but this does not cover ALL. Unless our definition of routine is vastly different. Routine to me is any mission that flies the exact same profile again and again. Communication networks, crew swaps and construction or renovation missions to a station, sending multiple missions to the same orbit/orbital destination. So again while some of the hyper tedious resupply missions may vanish to the background there are some missions that are the same exact profile ad infinitum. 2. Will these tutorials show how a rocket YOU built flies? Will they show you exactly how you were messing up? I doubt it. I watched Scott Manley explain rendezvous and docking in ksp on nearly infinite repeat and he is above and beyond one of if not THE best teacher ive ever seen for KSP and even with his detailed videos it just did not work for me. Autopilot, mechjeb2 DID. This idea that a “good” or “better” tutorial is enough does not justify or call for not having it. 3. So if I can do it once, i can do it ad infinitum? Does this mean I HAVE to? Does this mean I am OBLIGATED to? I can manually land the PMDG 737-700/800 in near 0 visibility or in 25 knot crosswinds (which is the max allowed crosswind). I can hand fly entire flights from pushback to parking and shut down at my destination. 99.99% of every flight I do in MSFS is routine, I did it once, by your logic I should never turn on my flight director or auto throttle or L/V Navs or turn on my receiver for the airports ILS gear. Just because a player CAN do something by hand is no reason to REQUIRE that they are to be DENIED the option to not let autopilot do it. 4. Which is a thing? Multiplayer? I know it is. I think spending dev time on it when they did was unnecessary when other things that have direct affects on the core game like weather (think thats a thing) or procedural parts or other things like parts or yes autopilot should have higher priority. Sure people playing with friends can be fun (not referring to ksp in particular, but multiplayer in like an mmo or a shooter or w/e) but if the game isnt polished or is missing things because time in dev was spent on less critical things (sorry guys but multiplayer isnt critical) instead. Id say autopilot has more criticality than multiplayer simply because autopilot adds functionality while multiplayer only adds your friends and extra complexity of tons of parts all in 1 spot all demanding physics to be dealt with. If however you are claiming autopilot is an actual planned, included and confirmed feature the citation with link to the devs specifically stating this is required and requested. Until then I need to continue to be of the position that it is not confirmed/planned and may be required to be modded to fill the void. 084602042023

@tstein i rarely and i truly mean RARELY say this on this forum but you are objectively wrong. It adds so so much to the game. What do I mean? Well, I for one cannot stand repeating the exact same flight profile ad infinitum. Refueling or resupplying stations? Building them? Same profile over and over. Real world equivalent: ISS. How many flights were needed to build it? How many launch sites? More than 40 launches from at least 2 launch sites. And how many of these flights did not use autopilot? 0. No space flight does not use autopilot. Artemis was FULLY AUTOMATED. SpaceX? Fully automated. When I was learning to fly missions here in ksp I read and watched as many tutorials as I could. I could launch and land within 2-3 flights on day 1. Rendezvous and docking? Not once. No matter what I read or watched it just did not click. Then I found mechjeb. I tweaked the rocket from a tutorial i watched (and copied) by adding 1 part. Mechjeb. It taught me in 1 SINGLE FLIGHT what watching hundreds of hours of tutorials and reading hundreds of pages of written tutorials could not. Why or rather how? It did it by showing how MY rocket flew. How MY rocket behaved. The number of times I have been able to have my mind blown by views and moments that are 100% IMPOSSIBLE without autopilot are beyond countless. One moment in particular came when I had mechjeb set up for docking to my station. I decided to let mj handle my rocket and jumped to the station and watched my ship come in out of the shadow into the light of the sun then close into the stations lights and dock. It was beyond beautiful to see. It covered 250 meters to docking without needing my input. Had I been making a cinematic it would have been glorious. Impossible w/out autopilot. Autopilot is valuable and not having it is beyond limiting. Just because YOU do not want it or care for it does not mean it should not be included. Best example? Multiplayer. I personally cannot fathom how multiplayer is a good thing for a game that is at its core SINGLE PLAYER and personally want nothing to do with it, but others want it so its being added. Given the multiple years (likely the entire existence of ksp) of people debating this and being in 2 camps much the same as multiplayer the latter of which saw victory go to promultiplayer and its obvious inclusion. Given the fact REAL WORLD space programs CANNOT function w/out autopilot or automation not having would be a slap in the face especially (personal opinion here) given the fact multiplayer is a thing and the mod that spawned it was far less polished than mechjeb2. I fully and completely disagree with you. 080402042023 080702043023

Thanks for the split off! My goof for misplacing this originally. Guess thats what I get for posting at 0335 and skipping a few critical thinking steps lol. Appreciate it, really do! 072402042023

@tstein Im not sure what point youre making. Mine is: autopilot is ubiquitous and does need to be included. 065102042023

With early access in very close proximity i am still very concerned. You may or may not share my concerns but its these concerns that have chilled my hype. They are: reentry particle effects, real procedural fairings (ie like the ones that were a mod by the name Procedural Fairings, as they are the gold standard to what fairings in ksp should be, my opinion and stock were horrific to me) and auto pilot like mechjeb. 1. Reentry particle effects, ksp 1 had the code built in but switched off. Afair it was never “on” for performance reasons, fine, but ksp2 is new and on logarithmically superior machines to what used ksp 1 way back when. I see no reason ( not a programmer) for us to not have it. Heck ksp2 engine plums look way better too! 2. Procedural fairings, ie like the mod, should be the thing. Why? Aside from being objectively better, ksp2 has procedural radiators so yeah. 3. Mechjeb/auto pilot. General aviation, commercial, military and all space programs have it. Even my pmdg737-700/800/900(when they launch the 900) has real world accurate autopilot. So yeah. Aside from the radiators and engine plumes noone has mentioned or demonstrated these features for ksp2 so im concerned. Will not knowing for sure stop me from buying? No. Will not having them make me hate it? Nope. Will i complain and then wait for our lovely modders to fill the void? Yup. 033502042023 033602042023

Same thing with me. Same exact thing @LHACK4142 is getting. Guess we lack permission? that said, congratulations winners and honorable mentions! 214502032023

@TheSaint you have my condolences. My mother is in a LTC herself and I fear that very call myself. Again you have my condolences. 200002032023

Granted, but your best was only insufficient and could not save the carbon cosmos from running out of carbon 14. i wish to see if the next user can corrupt my wish with out using the following letters: a e i o u y. 091701302023

It seems i have been summoned. I was however not next. Im about to go to bed, but before i do, i will guess that @Spaceman.Spiff May be next? 091401302023

Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark. In this movie Indiana Jones was 100% useless and had 0 affect on how things ultimately ended. 061901302023 New page

Once again fedex is proving to be mind blowingly frustrating. Just like the 8th of this month when I had a package come from Japan fedex is once again not delivering to me on a sunday. My package left Japan at 0522 JST on 01-28-2023 and was cleared by US Customs in Oakland California at 0011 pacific time on 01-28-2023 roughly 3 hours after it entered the Oakland Fedex distribution hub. At 0400 Pacific time 4 hours or so after international shipment release by US Customs my package was in transit to the fedex hub in memphis. By 0927 central time on 01-28-2023 my package was scanned into the fedex hub in memphis. At 1534 central on 01-28-2023 my package was in transit to my city being scanned in at 1723 central on 01-28-2023. As of right now my package could be on a fedex truck coming to my house. It has been in my city for 15 HOURS!!! There is 0 reason that my package needs to sit at the local distribution hub in my city. Can anyone explain why DHL (different package but a great example of pure obscene efficiency) can go from Tokyo to Cincinnati to my city then to my door in (yay timezones and precustoms clearing in tokyo, go dhl!) a SINGLE calendar day, but fedex can go from osaka kansai to oakland to memphis to my city in that same time but drops the ball to sniff roses for an extra day? does anyone have a rational answer to why fedex (which DOES deliver on sunday) seems completely incapable of delivering a package that traversed the planet to reach my city in a single day (2 777s and either a 767, md11 or a300 osaka>oakland>memphis were the 777s and no idea which of the other 3 did memphis to my city) only to drop the ball so severely they are wasting a full 30.5-31 HOURS to seemingly avoid delivery on a day they openly admit they deliver on? my only guess: catastrophic inefficiency/laziness. yes im frustrated. Yes im angry at fedex. Yes im aware im ranting. I just want my package and cant understand why once again fedex is refusing to deliver on a day they ya know, deliver on. /rant 083301293023

Never had that particular issue. My advice is: if any potential partner would judge you for not having a license to drive (your reason for not having one is 100% reasonable and valid) should likely be avoided romantically as they are likely toxic. I would say they should be regarded with a healthy dose of caution if considering them for even just as friends. I hope this helps. 033801292023

Granted, but you find that it tarnished, which stands contrary to RoA 102. i wish i had a latinum statue of myself that was taller than the world. 215801282023

Granted. The moon was “was” and is no more. i wish i hadnt woke up with this headache. <REAL WISH> <<the next wish is the one for corrupting >> i wish that Minmus was in a retrograde orbit. 173401282023 new page! 173501282023

(First for real: enjoy your trip!) granted, your trip was so great it ended as you cleared passport control and you left with no memory of your trip! i wish to thanos snap this entire timeline away. Both he and altron were right. 014101282023

Granted, you get a music track that is 100 years long and all it says on repeat to the tune of never going to give you up is: truck tricky track. i wish i could rewrite existence to my OWN specifications to suit my own preferences. 235001272023 235401272023

Why? Remaining secret. 202501272023

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Granted. You become the time warp function in ksp. i wish to defeat the Cerberus Assembly before the Apogee Solstice happens and releases what ever is contained in Ruidus. 232701262023

Lance Kerwin. Nov 05, 1960 - Jan 23, 2023 231801262023

<this was the only version i could find that would insert correctly so for the purposes of the game the text above the 4 panels DOES NOT EXIST> 123601262023

@Scarecrow71 your move 094901262023

Granted. You hear the Mole People of Laythe coming to take their position as Chief Cheese. I wish I understood what I meant by my corruption. 0125001262023

Looks awesome! Now for clear skies! May you enjoy clear skies often! 003101262023