[WIP][1.9.x-1.12.x] Scatterer-atmospheric scattering (0.0838 - 14/08/2022) Scattering improvements, in-game atmo generation and multi-sun support

[Zlodeevi4]

2 minutes ago, blackrack said:

Well I do not know about the water, and I don't know what you did, but I can tell your game is messed up in several ways, I suggest reinstalling.

and as always we come to the most proven method))as some will try

[n3xtstar2k2]

Ok, i have seen videos of people playing scatterer WITH CLOUDS.... i tried EVE but ya, didn't work too well. does anyone know a mod that has clouds but supports scatterer?

[Brigadier]

On 3/16/2016 at 3:49 PM, blackrack said:

Just open up your gfx driver and play with things like allow mipmaps, and mipmap bias and the like. I suppose it won't make much difference though so you could stick to dx11.

And in KSP you could also try playing with the rendering quality slider.

Alas, no such options under the Radeon HD5700 series Catalyst drivers. The only option that appears to be related is OpenGL Triple Buffering. I would love a more capable gfx card but I'm limited to a PCI v1.1 bus on this MB.

Edit: This appears at the very beginning of the output log (red highlighting mine):

Spoiler

Initialize engine version: 4.6.4f1 (99f88340878d)
Forcing GfxDevice: 0
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GL: disabling render-to-cubemap due to Radeon driver bugs
GL: disabling mipmapped render textures due to Radeon driver bugs
GL: Detected 0 MB VRAM

Don't know if this helps.

Edited March 18, 2016 by Brigadier
New information

[selfish_meme]

1 hour ago, n3xtstar2k2 said:

Ok, i have seen videos of people playing scatterer WITH CLOUDS.... i tried EVE but ya, didn't work too well. does anyone know a mod that has clouds but supports scatterer?

Eve does play well with scatterer and if you want to use the latest scatterer then its almost the only one without a lot of config file editing.

Edited March 17, 2016 by selfish_meme

[sashan]

Would you eventually fix Eve? It's atmo is messed up somewhat - its upper edge is knife sharp. Other planets are fine.

[Third_OfFive]

Amazing mod! I downloaded it and I love it.

I have found a few bugs though.

Weird artefacts like this show up on Duna, especially during sunrise/sunset. I suspect this is caused by the new "god-ray" feature.

Edited March 17, 2016 by Third_OfFive

[sashan]

1 minute ago, Third_OfFive said:

Weird artefacts like this show up on Duna, especially during sunrise/sunset. I suspect this is caused by the new "god-ray" feature.

Disable god rays in startup menu.

 

[Third_OfFive]

Just now, sashan said:

Disable god rays in startup menu.

 

I know, I'm just reporting it so that the mod-maker is aware of this bug.

[SkyKaptn]

9 minutes ago, Third_OfFive said:

I know, I'm just reporting it so that the mod-maker is aware of this bug.

He is. Read known issues, OP

[blackrack]

23 minutes ago, sashan said:

Would you eventually fix Eve? It's atmo is messed up somewhat - its upper edge is knife sharp. Other planets are fine.

I gave it a try recently but couldn't fix it unless I made the atmosphere super thin... which isn't really what I'm going for with Eve. If it doesn't bother you you can generate a new config with the config tool.

[Nhawks17]

I swear if Squad doesn't poke you when they do their graphical overhaul I'm going to be very dispoointed, those celestial shadows are absolutely gorgeous Blackrack, as always, wonderful work!!

[sashan]

8 hours ago, blackrack said:

9 hours ago, sashan said:

Would you eventually fix Eve? It's atmo is messed up somewhat - its upper edge is knife sharp. Other planets are fine.

I gave it a try recently but couldn't fix it unless I made the atmosphere super thin... which isn't really what I'm going for with Eve. If it doesn't bother you you can generate a new config with the config tool.

Maybe you can make it end higher? It's super dense, and extending it up to 60 km would IMO be good.

 

[fast_de_la_speed]

Is anyone else having issues where Scatterer keeps reloading over and over at the space center? I decided i'd start a fresh install, and I am reinstalling my mods. I've been playing with DX11 for some time now, no issue, but now I'm trying to use DX9 and whenever I load any save framerate tanks cause scatterer won't stop reloading tables and rebuilding the ocean.

update: it does this in dx11 too

Edited March 18, 2016 by fast_de_la_speed

[blackrack]

1 hour ago, fast_de_la_speed said:

Is anyone else having issues where Scatterer keeps reloading over and over at the space center? I decided i'd start a fresh install, and I am reinstalling my mods. I've been playing with DX11 for some time now, no issue, but now I'm trying to use DX9 and whenever I load any save framerate tanks cause scatterer won't stop reloading tables and rebuilding the ocean.

update: it does this in dx11 too

This happens to some people where their game behaves like it's switching between windowed and fullscreen constantly and it causes these reloads. Try windowed mode or borderless fullscreen.

[Tenebrae]

On 3/17/2016 at 1:44 PM, blackrack said:

Edited: 

Today's neat little trick: I disabled the ambient light on scaledSpace objects that was causing dark sides to appear lit. Dark sides are now dark, mun displays as a crescent, eclipses look better, mun isn't visible against the sun etc etc... Here's a quick before/after album:

It makes the celestial objects a bit darker though so i may have to turn up the scaledSpace light intensity a bit, however last time I checked it was tied to the PQS light intensity so we'll see...

Can I have it? Pleeaaaaase? Now really, is it something we mere mortals can edit or do we need to wait for the next revision?

Squad, give this guy a job designing your stuffs...

I'll just leave these here, I had to start a new playthrough in RSS and when I finally made it to orbit I just went full Jeb () looking at my screen, especially with the new terminator...Extremely well done @blackrack , squire...

 

 

 

Edited March 18, 2016 by Tenebrae

[blackrack]

40 minutes ago, Tenebrae said:

Can I have it? Pleeaaaaase? Now really, is it something we mere mortals can edit or do we need to wait for the next revision?

Squad, give this guy a job designing your stuffs...

I'll just leave these here, I had to start a new playthrough in RSS and when I finally made it to orbit I just went full Jeb () looking at my screen, especially with the new terminator...Extremely well done @blackrack , squire...

http://imgur.com/a/66SRg

Thank you, I appreciate these posts. You'll have to wait until next release though.

Edited March 18, 2016 by blackrack

[Brigadier]

5 hours ago, blackrack said:

Thank you, I appreciate these posts. You'll have to wait until next release though.

5 hours ago, Tenebrae said:

I'll just leave these here, I had to start a new playthrough in RSS and when I finally made it to orbit I just went full Jeb () looking at my screen, especially with the new terminator...Extremely well done @blackrack , squire...

I concur.

Is that a Death Star in the 4th image...nah, must be my imagination...or is it? That's no Mun!

[Tenebrae]

7 hours ago, Brigadier said:

I concur.

Is that a Death Star in the 4th image...nah, must be my imagination...or is it? That's no Mun!

Tiny Soviet Death Star...or my take on the Sputnik...

[stratochief66]

On 3/17/2016 at 9:44 AM, blackrack said:

 

Nope, post pics, I don't include easter eggs yet.

Edited: Saw your album on imgur, http://i.imgur.com/C4WpOTK.png this indeed looks different but I have nothing to do with it.

In the KSP graphics menu settings I belive there are switches for fallback terrain shaders and SM3 terrain shaders.

 

Edited: 

Today's neat little trick: I disabled the ambient light on scaledSpace objects that was causing dark sides to appear lit. Dark sides are now dark, mun displays as a crescent, eclipses look better, mun isn't visible against the sun etc etc... Here's a quick before/after album:

 

 

That looks really impressive. I look forward to the new features, whenever they are ready

I am curious if it would be possible to have a corona effect visible when the sun is eclipsed? I haven't run into an eclipse yet, but my guess would be that currently the answer is that there isn't one.

[n3xtstar2k2]

It would be cool if you could add clouds to the mod, so you don't have to install other ones. + I feel like EVE went a little over board on the amount of clouds. Just a suggestion though. 

[Leandro Basi]

Hi, I have a issue with last version 0.0235, my game freezes every time i go to splash down, i tested all my mods and when i reverted scatterer to version 0,0233 the problem solved.

I Have EVE installed.

ps.: I Reinstalled the version 0.0235 to generate log file, but now the problem dont going back!

In the last freeze, the game time appears at game night and now i try to reproduce the same issues at day game!

Later i try to reproduce in the same conditions, if i can repeat then i post here. Thanks

Edited March 21, 2016 by Leandro Basi
Issue dont occurs for now

[blackrack]

9 hours ago, stratochief66 said:

I am curious if it would be possible to have a corona effect visible when the sun is eclipsed? I haven't run into an eclipse yet, but my guess would be that currently the answer is that there isn't one.

Yeah actually i'm putting the corona back, in the past it had render order issues but now it's fixed so it will be back in the next version.

8 hours ago, n3xtstar2k2 said:

It would be cool if you could add clouds to the mod, so you don't have to install other ones. + I feel like EVE went a little over board on the amount of clouds. Just a suggestion though. 

I don't plan to do clouds, it isn't really a small undertaking and there's already a dedicated mod for them so I would rather focus on other things for now.

27 minutes ago, Leandro Basi said:

Hi, I have a issue with last version 0.0235, my game freezes every time i go to splash down, i tested all my mods and when i reverted scatterer to version 0,0233 the problem solved.

I Have EVE installed.

Post your KSP.log file.

[The Destroyer]

I'm having some weird issues with scatterer- I went to take a picture (steam, f12) and it didn't (sometimes does that for a few seconds, it's normal) so I pressed F12 again and slowly KSP began to crumble into blackness? Using SVE

[Chimer4]

18 minutes ago, The Destroyer said:

I'm having some weird issues with scatterer- I went to take a picture (steam, f12) and it didn't (sometimes does that for a few seconds, it's normal) so I pressed F12 again and slowly KSP began to crumble into blackness? Using SVE

I think I might have the same issue as you. Does everything start flickering to black, and eventually the entire screen goes black? I have that issue, but only in dx9. In dx11 everything works perfectly. 

A couple of other things that I have noticed but haven't seen mentioned. Occasionally orbit lines, planets and fairings turn blue. I don't know what exactly causes it, it seems to happen at random. If I see it again I'll try and grab a screenshot and log.

Also the sun flare doesn't seem to show in screen shots.

Apologies in advance if any of these have been mentioned before/you are already aware of them. Here are some of my favourite shots from a recent Mun mission, finally saw my first eclipse

 

Edited March 23, 2016 by Chimer4

[The Destroyer]

12 minutes ago, Chimer4 said:

I think I might have the same issue as you. Does everything start flickering to black, and eventually the entire screen goes black? I have that issue, but only in dx9. In dx11 everything works perfectly. 

A couple of other things that I have noticed but haven't seen mentioned. Occasionally orbit lines, planets and fairings turn blue. I don't know what exactly causes it, it seems to happen at random. If I see it again I'll try and grab a screenshot and log.

Also the sun flare doesn't seem to show in screen shots.

Apologies in advance if any of these have been mentioned before/you are already aware of them. Here are some of my favourite shots from a recent Mun mission, finally saw my first eclipse

Yeah it does happen like that, it's like KSP itself is shutting down.