Foxbat Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I went back to re-read some of the early chapters and the bit where the monolith transports Jeb to Minmus (Vol 1, Ch 14 - Despite the Plan) got me thinking. What if the monoliths in chapter 40 were not trying to stop the explosion but instead seeking out individual Kerbals and transporting them off-planet? Apologies if this has already been mentioned & I just missed it in the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andem Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 15 minutes ago, Foxbat said: I went back to re-read some of the early chapters and the bit where the monolith transports Jeb to Minmus (Vol 1, Ch 14 - Despite the Plan) got me thinking. What if the monoliths in chapter 40 were not trying to stop the explosion but instead seeking out individual Kerbals and transporting them off-planet? Apologies if this has already been mentioned & I just missed it in the thread. You're a genius!! Of course I ran out of likes just before seeing your post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Zoom Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Valuable Humans In Transit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starslinger999 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 On 5/14/2016 at 11:04 PM, Foxbat said: I went back to re-read some of the early chapters and the bit where the monolith transports Jeb to Minmus (Vol 1, Ch 14 - Despite the Plan) got me thinking. What if the monoliths in chapter 40 were not trying to stop the explosion but instead seeking out individual Kerbals and transporting them off-planet? Apologies if this has already been mentioned & I just missed it in the thread. Correction: THE Monolith. Ther can be only 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkaboy Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Starslinger999 said: Correction: THE Monolith. Ther can be only 1. Actually, I think what he means is that the monolith started reproducing and covering all of Kerbin, so there were multiple monoliths in chapter 40. But all of the monoliths are the same mind, Artie, so you're both correct. On another subject, I've been struggling with updating PK to 1.1.2, and I think I solved the main issues this weekend. However, I'll have another busy week so don't expect an update earlier than next weekend. Hopefully by then I'll be able to resume a weekly schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacebrick3 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 On 14 May 2016 at 4:04 AM, Foxbat said: I went back to re-read some of the early chapters and the bit where the monolith transports Jeb to Minmus (Vol 1, Ch 14 - Despite the Plan) got me thinking. What if the monoliths in chapter 40 were not trying to stop the explosion but instead seeking out individual Kerbals and transporting them off-planet? Apologies if this has already been mentioned & I just missed it in the thread. The only problem with that idea is, if the monolith can only transport kerbals between monoliths, none of the monoliths are outside of the Kerbin system, so none of the kerbals "saved" would escape the blast of gravioli particles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkaboy Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share Posted May 17, 2016 4 hours ago, spacebrick3 said: The only problem with that idea is, if the monolith can only transport kerbals between monoliths, none of the monoliths are outside of the Kerbin system, so none of the kerbals "saved" would escape the blast of gravioli particles. Yes, that's definitely a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceplaneAddict Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 *Chews nails anxiously waiting for @Parkaboy's new update for PK* *Determination . . . ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_creative Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, SpaceplaneAddict said: *Chews nails anxiously waiting for @Parkaboy's new update for PK* *Determination . . . ? More...? Hello...? Is anyone there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 On 5/17/2016 at 9:24 AM, spacebrick3 said: The only problem with that idea is, if the monolith can only transport kerbals between monoliths, none of the monoliths are outside of the Kerbin system, so none of the kerbals "saved" would escape the blast of gravioli particles. On 5/17/2016 at 1:50 PM, Parkaboy said: Yes, that's definitely a problem. You're both forgetting about the monolith on... THE LONG LOST MAGIC BOULDER! All joking aside, that may actually be a possibility. I mean, there is really nowhere for the kerbals to go once they get to an orbit around Ike, but it's a step. Yes, I know. The magic boulder was accidentally removed back in... 0.19? However, maybe it's just invisible! #StayDetermined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceplaneAddict Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 36 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: #StayDetermined Oh you *Determination . . . ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FyunchClick Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 (edited) Don't poke the author please. He just said not to expect any updates before the weekend (which is not the same as committing to updates on the weekend either). I'm sure Parka will get to it when life permits him to. Edited May 20, 2016 by FyunchClick spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceplaneAddict Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 11 hours ago, FyunchClick said: Don't poke the author please. He just said not to expect any updates before the weekend (which is not the same as committing to updates on the weekend either). I'm sure Parka will get to it when life permits him to. Not tryin to. Sorry @Parkaboy, if it seemed like that, really, I need to rephrase what I was trying to do: Oh boy! Since there are no updates for the next while, anybody have any discussion? Kinda don't want this thread to be forgotten... *Determination. And Apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 17 minutes ago, SpaceplaneAddict said: Oh boy! Since there are no updates for the next while, anybody have any discussion? Kinda don't want this thread to be forgotten... It won't be, don't worry Just as soon as Parkaboy returns it goes right to the top of Mission Reports again, where it belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Zoom Posted May 21, 2016 Share Posted May 21, 2016 What Kuzzter said. Please don't clutter up Parkaboy's thread too much, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkaboy Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) And finally: Edited May 23, 2016 by Parkaboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Whoopsie! So, wonder what's up with KAC? And did you happen to verify any of its results with the classic maneuver node dragging test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemist Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Wrong side of the sun? Yeah, Moho's orbit is rather... eccentric. Fortunately, the major axis is rather close to ascending/descending nodes relative to Eve - so without need for midcourse plane change you can get that ultra-cheap transfer. Except that it may turn out rather costly to navigate to Gilly from such approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceplaneAddict Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) So Moho magically moved huh? Strange... And long live our hero, Jebediah Kerman! *Determination. Edited May 23, 2016 by SpaceplaneAddict Damn typos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacebrick3 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Is Bob going to turn out like Bill from Kerbfleet, messing with the persistence file to fix things that are "wrong"? Only time will tell... Edit: Not that he shouldn't save Jeb, of course. Edited May 23, 2016 by spacebrick3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkaboy Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 21 minutes ago, Kuzzter said: Whoopsie! So, wonder what's up with KAC? And did you happen to verify any of its results with the classic maneuver node dragging test? Not sure what happened. I trusted the transfer window calculator on KAC, and it totally failed me. Maybe there was something wrong with it at the time I set up that alarm, or maybe it's just the kind of thing that happens when your save is old and has survived many updates. Point is: from now on, I'll always check the transfer windows with mechjeb first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceplaneAddict Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, spacebrick3 said: Is Bob going to turn out like Bill from Kerbfleet, messing with the persistence file to fix things that are "wrong"? Only time will tell... It may appear that Bob will be the Plan Kappa Persistomancer. Though I don't he had the direct ability too modify the file itself... *Determination. Edited May 23, 2016 by SpaceplaneAddict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemist Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, Parkaboy said: Not sure what happened. I trusted the transfer window calculator on KAC, and it totally failed me. The numbers seem legit for me. If you try to get to Moho or from Moho near its apoapsis, 4+ km/s is quite possible (and it may be almost as much for other randomly chosen windows, if you add the midcourse plane change). Near its periapsis, however, this burn may end up under 2km/s even for transfer to/from Kerbin. And the arrival time difference between these windows is about half the orbital period of Eve, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Dilsby Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 43 minutes ago, SpaceplaneAddict said: It may appear that Bob will be the Plan Kappa Persistomancer. Though I don't he had the direct ability too modify the file itself... You're forgetting... Kerbfleet Bill is the Plan Kappa Persistomancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkaboy Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 34 minutes ago, Alchemist said: The numbers seem legit for me. If you try to get to Moho or from Moho near its apoapsis, 4+ km/s is quite possible (and it may be almost as much for other randomly chosen windows, if you add the midcourse plane change). Near its periapsis, however, this burn may end up under 2km/s even for transfer to/from Kerbin. And the arrival time difference between these windows is about half the orbital period of Eve, isn't it? You're probably right, but I still plan to double check with MechJeb to make sure I'm not getting a less-than-ideal transfer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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