Perotis Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I now there are some people who feel that mechjeb is cheating in KSP. And I can understand where that feeling comes from. But my take in it is that it's like using a calculator for doing math. When you are first learning your basic arithmetic, using a calculator is definitely cheating. But once you know how to do the basics and move on to more complicated math, the calculator is a tool that is used to that frees you up to concentrate on the task at hand rather than doing the 'basic' math. This kind of mirrors my path through KSP. I've 'paid my dues' learning how to the basics (launch, land, rendezvous, dock, etc...). but now that I've installed Mechjeb and unlocked the ascent/landing modules in the tech tree, it frees me up to spend less time on the 'basic' tasks and focus on doing the missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaSilisko Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Oh cool, this thread again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frybert Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Everybody drink! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcook Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 This again? Oh please. Let's complain about how <insert part name here> is not <powerful enough | too powerful | the wrong colour for my preference>. Or perhaps you'd like to have a serious discussion comparing the merits of visiting Eeloo vs. Moho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razark Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Oh, dear gods! Not this again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) We definitively need more threads like this. Because there's only 12.420 threads that are nearly identical to this one. Edited January 30, 2016 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razark Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Personally, I think KSP is cheating, and the only proper way to simulate rocketry is with a pencil, slide rule, and half a ton of graph paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbacusWizard Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, razark said: Personally, I think KSP is cheating, and the only proper way to simulate rocketry is with a pencil, slide rule, and half a ton of graph paper. Slide rule? Luxury! Real rocket scientists use an abacus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razark Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AbacusWizard said: Slide rule? Luxury! Real rocket scientists use an abacus. But real Kerbal rocket scientists use dice. Like these: Edited January 30, 2016 by razark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snark Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 8 minutes ago, AbacusWizard said: Slide rule? Luxury! Real rocket scientists use an abacus. You had an abacus? Lucky sod. Real rocket scientists use their remaining fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoVampire Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 This type of thread is EXACTLY the reason squad MUST, NEED to make mechjeb stock. Once they do this bs of validation seeking will stop. Mechjeb proud since .21! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman78781 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) NOPE Edited January 30, 2016 by batman78781 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotaru Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 37 minutes ago, Perotis said: I now there are some people who feel that mechjeb is cheating in KSP. [trying to resist urge to be sarcastic] If it isn't obvious from all the other replies, we've had this conversation several times in the past. (About once a week since MechJeb was first introduced a few years ago, far as I can tell.) Although one or two people might give you a hard time about it, the general feeling on this forum (Reddit might have a different view, I wouldn't know as I never go there) seems to be that what mods you use in your own game is your own business, and the only time using MechJeb is definitely cheating is if you use it in a challenge in which it is specifically prohibited. Whether you feel you're cheating yourself by using it is entirely up to you. Me, I use it left and right, but if you're into coding/scripting I do think there's something to be said for having a go at writing your own autopilot in kOS. Not everybody's cup of tea, but I've been messing with it lately and it's incredibly satisfying to watch a rocket fly to orbit on guidance software I wrote myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, AlamoVampire said: This type of thread is EXACTLY the reason squad MUST, NEED to make mechjeb stock. Once they do this bs of validation seeking will stop. Mechjeb proud since .21! SQUAD must create a rule prohibiting discussions like "what is cheating in KSP" for the forums, that's what they must do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temstar Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Did some KSP purist provoke you into making this thread? Otherwise it seems rather projecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDJ Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Aperture Science said: SQUAD must create a rule prohibiting discussions like "what is cheating in KSP" for the forums, that's what they must do. Seconded. I'm getting tired of seeing titles that are not much more than attention-grabbing-whiny-blah blah blah threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HebaruSan Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 32 minutes ago, razark said: Personally, I think KSP is cheating, and the only proper way to simulate rocketry is with a pencil, slide rule, and half a ton of graph paper. Simulation is cheating. If your design is so good, you should be able to build it and launch it for real! If automation was the default, my favorite must-have mod would probably be "WASD-rocket-controls". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Findthepin1 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Mechjeb is less fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frybert Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Findthepin1 said: Mechjeb is less fun. But it gets more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanic Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Ugh, not this again. Play the game how YOU and you only see fit. Only you decide what is right and wrong for your game, and nobody else should influence your opinions of mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motokid600 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Actually it turns out not using mechjeb is cheating. I feel cheated from the lack of information stock provides me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 LOL. It looks like even this laid-back forum finally reached the point of saturation with pointless "cheating\not cheating" threads. I'm proud of us, guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChumley Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Mechjeb is an awesome tool! Accept this and move on. Sarbian = Legend Don't your potatoes need tending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceplaneAddict Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 This thread will become personalized arguements, I guarantee! Anyway, I despise the thread title. *narrows eyes* MechJeb can be used in anyway, fully auto or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speeding Mullet Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Predictable thread. So many ways to play it, Become the Mechjeb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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