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[saxappeal89129]

So this type of internet Bullying has happened before in the Kerbal Steam forums. WOW! Not only are you folks losing business because of it, you're creating enemies. I for one, will utilize every social media platform to discredit the game/moderators, and forums.

 

Ramen Numerals

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Jul 14, 2013 @ 12:28pm

Kerbal Forums being moderated due to bad opinions of game?

I've heard wonderful things about this game from a few podcasts I listen to. Eventually that means I find my way to the forums to see what the Steam Community thinks of the game. I do this to find out if the Steam version of a game works well within the Steam system, if it has additional DRM, and to get player's opinions. But I'm reading posts that the moderation of the site is having posts locked due to failures to comply with the Rules and Guidelines.

How does this:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/220200/discussions/0/864971765677579679/ fall into any of the guidelines?

While I agree the conversation is juvenile, it's certainly an opinion of the game and none of the following occurred:

-Flame or insult other members
-Bypass any filters
-Abuse or encourage abuse of the Reputation, or Post Reporting Systems
-Post personally identifiable information (i.e. name, address, email, phone number, etc.)
-Bump threads
-Derail a thread's topic
-Post links to phishing sites
-Post spam (i.e. +1, 10char, rickrolls) or Re-post Closed, Modified, Deleted Content
-Repetitively post in the incorrect forum (example: trade requests belong in trading forum)
-Openly argue with a moderator

No one was insulted except maybe a developer looking into random posts. No filters were bypassed. No one abuses any Steam systems. No personal information was posted. No one "bumped" a thread. The conversation, as childish as it might have been, was on topic the entire time. No links or spam. It wasn't a trade request, and no moderator ever commented for an argument to occur.

I wanted to purchase this game. But if the moderation here is any reflection of the corporate policies directing this game, I'm not sure why I'd align myself with the product.

Last edited by Ramen Numerals; Jul 14, 2013 @ 12:28pm

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gxs

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Jul 14, 2013 @ 12:30pm 

You're braking two of the rules you posted here champ:
-Repetitively post in the incorrect forum (example: trade requests belong in trading forum)
-Openly argue with a moderator

The first is that you're discussing moderation on a forum. This is done in private with a mod in question.
The second is what you're doing now.

Last edited by gxs; Jul 14, 2013 @ 12:32pm

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Zeron

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Jul 14, 2013 @ 12:31pm 

Originally posted by gxs:

You're braking two of the rules you posted here champ:

-Repetitively post in the incorrect forum (example: trade requests belong in trading forum)

-Openly argue with a moderator

Now that's just being too strict.

[sal_vager]

Hi @saxappeal89129, I have moved your thread to the Kerbal Network as this section is better suited for this kind of discussion.

It appears these threads were hidden by Valve admin, probably based on the number of reports they gathered from other users, I am not in the habit of removing anything that isn't obviously a duplicate or botspam, I find it's better to close threads that have derailed or devolved into fighting instead, though if a thread can be maintained just by posting then that's the best way to handle it.

Moderation isn't unheard of on forums, you will find many forums have moderators and will have to deal with issues from time to time, this is true here, on the Steam forums, on Reddit and many many other sites, even 4chan has moderators.

Unfortunately some people see any level of moderation as unacceptable and do not believe rules should apply to them, I am sorry to say but this view is unrealistic, regardless of what site you're on.

If anyone does feel unfairly moderated they can contact me here and I'll look into it.

Edit:

I'll just add, that the Steam forum is under Steams rules as well as our own, if a Valve admin decides a post or thread breaks Valves TOS there's not much I can do.

[Padishar]

1 hour ago, saxappeal89129 said:

While I agree the conversation is juvenile, it's certainly an opinion of the game

One that is obviously false and could be considered libelous so the publishers (Steam) have every right to pull it for that reason alone.

Also, what "bullying" are you referring to?  The only bullying I can see there is the people being insulting to the OP (called "stupid", an alien and "mental") and the locking of the thread stopped that.

[HebaruSan]

What a bizarre thing to get all het up about. Such a shame that the world missed out on the continuation of such a productive discussion.

[Streetwind]

21 hours ago, saxappeal89129 said:

I for one, will utilize every social media platform to discredit the game/moderators, and forums.

Protip: Don't.

There's few quicker ways to make a fool out of yourself on the internet than to try and launch a one-man smear campaign over the perceived "injustice" of being put in your place by a video game forum moderator.

[Randazzo]

I actually laughed out loud twice in this thread. Once when reading this:

23 hours ago, saxappeal89129 said:

So this type of internet Bullying has happened before in the Kerbal Steam forums. WOW! Not only are you folks losing business because of it, you're creating enemies. I for one, will utilize every social media platform to discredit the game/moderators, and forums.

And again when I read the thread that got "unfairly moderated".

9/10 for comic value.

[HoloYolo]

Sometimes the mods here on the forums feel like supreme overlords. They never warned me about the 3 things I did that were infraction-worthy. It just bothers me.

[Red Iron Crown]

5 hours ago, HoloYolo said:

Sometimes the mods here on the forums feel like supreme overlords. They never warned me about the 3 things I did that were infraction-worthy. It just bothers me.

Please report any posts of yours that you feel were under-moderated and we'll look at them for you.

[HoloYolo]

3 minutes ago, Red Iron Crown said:

Please report any posts of yours that you feel were under-moderated and we'll look at them for you.

It's not that you guys DON'T do your jobs, it's that you guys do your jobs TOO WELL. When I got my infractions I had no warning that I would get them at all. You guys aren't bad, just like give warnings before you give infractions, that's all.

[Vanamonde]

@HoloYolo, all of your moderation actions HAVE BEEN zero-point warnings. 

[Greenfire32]

38 minutes ago, Vanamonde said:

@HoloYolo, all of your moderation actions HAVE BEEN zero-point warnings. 

I think "its the thought that counts" is appropriate here.

[HoloYolo]

42 minutes ago, Vanamonde said:

@HoloYolo, all of your moderation actions HAVE BEEN zero-point warnings. 

They expired because as far as I know they were 15 points at once and I couldn't post Imgur albums for quite some time.

[Vanamonde]

Oops. You guys aren't the only ones having to re-learn forum stuff due to the forum software changeover.