why do celebrities die young?

[daniel l.]

It may seem non scientific but im sure there is some behind it.

 

A ton of celebs die young, Far more it seems then the average joe or jane. But the causes of death for each person are usually different. Yet they all share something.

Why are people who are so rich and famous as to be able to afford far better healthcare then any of us, Dying younger then any of us? 

[SargeRho]

Cocaine.

[tater]

What about all the celebrities that would have been the most recognized people on earth in all history---except that they died as infants or children, before they could actually become famous?

[WinkAllKerb'']

well you walk in the street of life then it happen

[HebaruSan]

When a regular person dies, old or young, you only hear about it if you knew them or if their death was somehow unusual or spectacular.

When an older celebrity dies, it's rarely considered a big deal because their career is already over, so it's mentioned briefly on the news, maybe with a retrospective, and then they move on to another story.

When a celebrity dies young, it's a big deal (and usually not from natural causes). Their career is ongoing, they have active fans, they've been in movies recently. Lots of people are shocked and grieving, attention is paid to the cause of death. Coverage might last several days.

I suspect a sampling bias.

[Matuchkin]

1 hour ago, daniel l. said:

It may seem non scientific but im sure there is some behind it.

 

A ton of celebs die young, Far more it seems then the average joe or jane. But the causes of death for each person are usually different. Yet they all share something.

Why are people who are so rich and famous as to be able to afford far better healthcare then any of us, Dying younger then any of us? 

You need to one one thing. Never be a rock-star. You will die at exactly the age of 27, from drug abuse.

[RainDreamer]

Capability to afford better health care doesn't mean they use it well. Even the best doctors can't help eventually if you are living a life full of stress and pressure and the things you have to do to cope(usually include substance abuses).

Edited April 22, 2016 by RainDreamer

[Stargate525]

As said above, it's part drugs/alcohol/mental disorders, part selection bias, and part sampling bias.

 

On the other hand, you have actors who are still active in their 80s and 90s.

[WinkAllKerb'']

life is evil, because, well, life is world first killer 'sigh'

[Bill Phil]

What about the thousands of teens who die on a yearly basis?

[cantab]

Yeah, the first response is, well do they? Celebrity deaths make the news, especially if it's seen as young, but are there any figures showing how it compares to the general population? Yes, several high-profile rock and pop musicians have died due to substance abuse, and several rappers been murdered in gang-related killings, but those are causes of death that aren't unique to celebrities.

[Just Jim]

It's a shame when anyone dies before their time, no matter what the reason. 

Edited April 22, 2016 by Just Jim

[Bill Phil]

43 minutes ago, Just Jim said:

It's a shame when anyone dies before their time, no matter what the reason. 

This may sound morbid, but who are we to say that wasn't their time?

Edited April 22, 2016 by Bill Phil

[WinkAllKerb'']

time possess you, it always do, but aside buying a watch to read it a litl' you ll never possess time ... it has nothing to do with morbidity

time will exist whatever even if there no one to talk about it

also you can't buy time, because well time simply don't give a f*** @ money ; )

also time can get bored pretty quick regarding a large range of topics, because well time is experienced ; )

Edited April 22, 2016 by WinkAllKerb''

[insert_name]

Most of the reasons can't buy discussed without violating forum rules

[Clockwork13]

Gifted and smart people are more likely to commit suicide. I don't think that's the whole reason, but that's definitely a big part of it.

[tater]

1 hour ago, Clockwork13 said:

Gifted and smart people are more likely to commit suicide. I don't think that's the whole reason, but that's definitely a big part of it.

No. Mentally ill people are more likely to commit suicide.

@HebaruSan said it more directly than I did. It's sampling bias, nothing more.

Edited April 22, 2016 by tater

[kerbiloid]

If celebrities mean artists, because they are selling emotions, while a human can't generate emotions endlessly.
So, they use different kinds of the emotional stimulation. With predictable results.

[Darnok]

Fame and money changes their perception and most of them isn't very intelligent, so they have troubles finding reasons to live... other than pleasure. Which in large doses is harmful to human health and psychology and this shortens their lives.

[Camacha]

2 hours ago, Darnok said:

most of them isn't very intelligent

This sentence is remarkable for more reasons than one.

[Nuke]

people normally develop a certain amount of self discipline in early adulthood as they try to adapt to a new and potentially cruel and unforgiving world from what they are used to. your resources are limited and you have to learn how to make do with what you have. for most its purely a matter of survival and the difference of a few bucks is the difference from taking care of yourself and becoming homeless. maturity normally develops as a result. the problem with celebrities (the ones that self destruct anyway) is that many of them are very talented, and get in the buisness early, where most everyone else is working at burger king trying to make their rent. suddenly they are making 6+ figure salaries before having learned to make good decisions. then on top of that they are constantly bombarded with reporters trying to catch em messing up. then they are subjected to various bottom feeders looking to take advantage of a naive young star. its pretty much a recipe for self destruction.

and of course if they had any previous history of mental illness then the whole situation is a thousand times worse.

10 hours ago, Matuchkin said:

You need to one one thing. Never be a rock-star. You will die at exactly the age of 27, from drug abuse.

tell that to lemmy.

Edited April 22, 2016 by Nuke

[Darnok]

1 hour ago, Camacha said:

This sentence is remarkable for more reasons than one.

Why?

Today it is easier to sell fake body parts than interesting thoughts, so you don't have to be intelligent to become celebrity. Since sharing your views and thoughts is no unpopular, it is better to share your almost naked photos on social media to get more likes and fans.

If art would develop forward into more civilized direction, then we would see more and more artists and celebrities sharing interesting work of their minds... thoughts and contents with deeper meaning. Meanwhile we are going backwards, back into barbaric times, where people are selling their bodies and the slaves celebrities, that fits best current fashion standards, are most precious to their masters managers.

Edited April 22, 2016 by Darnok

[Camacha]

18 minutes ago, Darnok said:

Why?

Today it is easier to sell fake body parts than interesting thoughts, so you don't have to be intelligent to become celebrity. Since sharing your views and thoughts is no unpopular, it is better to share your almost naked photos on social media to get more likes and fans.

Both because a sentence that is about intelligence that is not grammatically correct is remarkable, and that the world view you have seems pretty skewed. There are plenty of celebrities out there that are famous for other things than showing their body parts. It seems you choose to immerse you in pop culture and then complain there only is pop culture. People got famous for their art (Hirst, Koons, you name it), view on economics (Sachs), discovery of certain scientific principles (Watson) or discussion about science (Hawking, deGrasse Tyson, Cox), furthering of modern technology (Musk) and for many other reasons that have nothing to do with body parts. Not to mention those people selling their body parts, as you choose to call it, must be somewhat savvy when it comes to business. You cannot make it in a very competitive world if you are not.

You choose to limit your view, then complain the view is limited.

Edited April 22, 2016 by Camacha

[RainDreamer]

As someone with a friend as a talent manager (who manage celebrities) and have experience in communication industry and entertainment production, I have so many things I want to say about the blood, sweat and tears that people in the entertainment industry put forth toward their creations, but I notice that it is slowly getting off topic, so I will just put it like this:

You can call any particular art form "bad" and you are probably right, because that is the nature of art. But never, ever, say that art is easy.

[Camacha]

2 minutes ago, RainDreamer said:

You can call any particular art form "bad" and you are probably right, because that is the nature of art. But never, ever, say that art is easy.

I would like to extend that to that creation is never easy. People that do not create things on a regular basis, seem blissfully unaware how much more energy creating something new takes, when compared to recreating or replicating something that already is. Instead of doing something once, you have to do it many times. That one time you do not fail is what people turn out seeing, but all those other attempts stay hidden behind the curtains.

Edited April 22, 2016 by Camacha