[0.24.2] Taverio's Pizza and Aerospace v1.7.1 (22/09)

[Rassa Farlander]

So is it required to use the module manager thing? Ive never used it and know nothing about it. I just saw the .dll file when I was going to install this mod. Any help?

[Bobhendly]

Can you add files for the FASA winged gemini?

if you are referring to FAR usage, The gemeni wing works fine, its alot of fun!

[Taverius]

So is it required to use the module manager thing? Ive never used it and know nothing about it. I just saw the .dll file when I was going to install this mod. Any help?

Just install it with the rest of the mod, it'll do everything automagically by changing the values in the Squad .cfg files before KSP reads them.

Only thing to keep in mind here, as with all other MM mods, is that MM doesn't know when you're in the debug menu, so they don't work if you reload the database that way.

[bs1110101]

Weird, adding that wasn't in the changelog.

Edit! It doesn't have FAR support, it flies just fine, though i'd still like someone to add FAR support to it so it flies better and works better with other stuff with FAR.

Edited October 22, 2013 by bs1110101

[KerbMav]

Weird, adding that wasn't in the changelog.

Edit! It doesn't have FAR support, it flies just fine, though i'd still like someone to add FAR support to it so it flies better and works better with other stuff with FAR.

v1.5.1

Fix for stock engine nacelle doing 3x as much drag as it should for its intake size.

Update small engine nacelle using new base area values.

New wing data based on 3 decimal point precision measurements of mesh vertexes.

FAR already has these measurements, FAR data for stock wings removed.

Override FAR's thrust levels for jets, if present.

Redo Novapunch winglet rebalance as a ModuleManager file, with new vertex-based measurements of the wings.

So ... FAR support or not?

And, am I reading this right or do the small versions of e.g. the air intakes have the same intake values as their bigger brothers?

Took a look at the part.cfg of your wings, you add FARs MODULE but while FAR edits the stock values to zero, you put them (back) in.

What does this do/change?

Edited November 6, 2013 by KerbMav

[Somgosomgo]

techtree please?

EDIT: nvm

Edited November 25, 2013 by Somgosomgo

[redteddy23]

Love these parts and the changes you have made. Only one prob for me with my mix of mods is I am using Deadly Reentry and it seems to cause jet engines to overheat and explode almost immediately when combined with this mod. Does anyone know exactly what combination of features in the two mods might be causing this?

[AdmiralTigerclaw]

My own question: When will SCRAMJETs being added as part of the pack itself?

RAMs are decent, but are nothing compared to a SCRAMJET for hitting the upper mach numbers. Edited them in for myself. Power development around mach 3 up until mach 9. (As per the last real scramjet test... though I don't have all the data numbers to crunch the atmospheric values.)

[redteddy23]

Love these parts and the changes you have made. Only one prob for me with my mix of mods is I am using Deadly Reentry and it seems to cause jet engines to overheat and explode almost immediately when combined with this mod. Does anyone know exactly what combination of features in the two mods might be causing this?

Just for anyone who had a similar problem. I reset the module manager file and resized engine parts so that their heat production was the same as the default ones for squad and the engines stop overheating and exploding with Deadly Reentry.

[likke_A_boss]

Ok, I can't open the read-me file. I can, but it is in money dance, and I don't want to use money dance, ECT. So the read me works, but is there anyway you can post in a textedit file or something? I don't know how to install without this. Thanks.

[Hellbrand]

Heya , just hoping this Mod gets some .23 update love nothing shoudl really change but it woudl be nice to see it tweakable enabled :3 but once again Love the mod :3

[somnambulist]

Ok, I can't open the read-me file. I can, but it is in money dance, and I don't want to use money dance, ECT. So the read me works, but is there anyway you can post in a textedit file or something? I don't know how to install without this. Thanks.

It's not Money Dance -- it's a Markdown file. Just open it in any text editor or change the extension to .txt

[localSol]

For TV 1.5.1 , What tweakables did you notice? I only noticed electric charge appearing on engines, though it's not practically usable anyway even though NaN appears there. It looks like you can change it with

  	isTweakable = false
	hideFlow = true

in the resource { name = electriccharge ... } section near the bottom of the file.

Some wing parts don't have winglet parameters set but I don't think you need them at all if using FAR. A fix may be putting winglet settings inside a module section like this :

MODULE
{
	name = ModuleControlSurface
	dragCoeff = 0.5
	deflectionLiftCoeff = 0.7
	ctrlSurfaceRange = 20
	ctrlSurfaceArea = 0.95
}

Where in pre-0.23 , this stuff was just in the PART { } area with other usual settings like standard part parameters.

Otherwise fuel is tweakable already for fuel tanks and engines work fine as far as I can tell, though people have commented about heat being hard with deadly reentry though I really haven't thought much about that. I modded the RAPIER using TV's settings of turbojets and it got me to about 1000 m/s @ ~20km before being in danger of burning or 'kersploding. Good enough for ramjet transition on a heavy plane in my case a number of times but like I say I haven't thought much about it yet.

[Hellbrand]

dont forget the multiple landing gear sizes not to mention the multiple control surfaces resizeing

[localSol]

Oh I see now too. The wheel resizes and masses work fine but [edit.. Maybe I misread the cfgs about the other problem? ..anyway, resized smallgearbays weren't getting steering] Bays M, L and xl for 1.5.1 can be given steering with this :

MODULE
{
	name = ModuleSteering
	controlAxisType = Forward
	steeringAxis = 0, 0, 1
	steeringTransformName = Steering
	steeringLocked = true
	steeringCurve
 	{
   	 key = 0 16
	 key = 10 9
  	 key = 30 2
	 key = 100 1
 	}
}

MODULE
{
	name = FXModuleConstrainPosition
	matchRotation = true
	matchPosition = false
	CONSTRAINFX
	{
		targetName = Steering
		moversName = wheelCollider
	}

}

To each part { } section in gamedata\squad\parts\wheel\smallgearbay\tv-pp.cfg

..Which is from the stock gear. No idea if this needs any adjustment. Also this seemed to stop rcs build aid 0.4 from freaking out when toggling mass ball when using these gear, though I don't know if that's a fluke or is more complicated.

Edited December 22, 2013 by localSol

[likke_A_boss]

Man, I wish this had compatibility with B9. THAT would be awesome.

[NathanKell]

How is it incompatible? Especially since Taverius is coauthor of B9.

[likke_A_boss]

How weird, I'm getting different lift with squad wings that are close to the same size as B9 wings, so I figured that TVPP didn't effect B9.

[NathanKell]

It doesn't. But I'd think that anything Taverius did for TVPP, he also did for B9.

[likke_A_boss]

Is it ok if I ask a really stupid question? What is a Ramjet? I can't find it for the life of me. I see RAM intakes, but no RAM jets. Thanks!

[BubbaWilkins]

Is it ok if I ask a really stupid question? What is a Ramjet? I can't find it for the life of me. I see RAM intakes, but no RAM jets. Thanks!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramjet

Basically its a jet engine without all the spinning/moving parts. You have to be going really fast to get enough compression from the intake to make sustained combustion feasible.

[Trollkowski]

any chance of an update to 0.23? :c

[Mekan1k]

any chance of an update to 0.23? :c

I hope so. I love this pack.

Tavario- we need you! Do not forsake us!

[taniwha]

You could try just using it, you know. It works in 0.23 just fine as-is.

[ThermalShark]

It doesnt work for me in 0.23. I have a clean install with only TV, Mechjeb and Kerbal Alarm Clock, and the game gets stuck loading "DA Bonus Jet". I tried deleting this part, and now it gets stuck loading the ramjet, but i dont want to delete it too.