[1.12.x] Tarsier Space Technology with Galaxies (V7.13) 12th Sep 2021

[Tales19]

17 hours ago, JPLRepo said:

Because when this mod was made, the stock KSP science containers couldn't do what they do now. Believe most of the functionality as you have pintyed out was added with KSP 1.2. Before that they were much more limited. Hence this mods containers were superior.

Thank you for responding so quickly.  I understand then.  Almost feels like a shame. The limitations on data storage (requiring electric charge, and finite capacity) make for some interesting gameplay decisions.  Hm... perhaps one rebalance to make them more enticing would be to have the hard-drives circumvent the need to conduct repeated experiments in the same biomes? i.e., for any given experiment, it first checks whether or not the data gathered would be enough to get all the science value for that experiment (if recovered) - if it would not, then either give a percent bonus data, or simply give full data.  That way, it'd be more 'efficient' to store data on hard-drives, rather than having a couple experiment storage units doing 'collect all' and spamming the experiments. Idk; maybe that's a bit too powerful a bonus (particularly for non-resettable experiments); but considering you'd still need to conduct those experiments separately per biome, I feel it wouldn't break the game too much. (I'm looking at you, gravity scans... [for some planets/biomes, it  can take 4+ scans to get full science value])

[Kepler68]

Hello everyone! Been getting back into KSP after a few years of hiatus and started running on the latest version with this mod installed! One thing that i normally do just for personal preference is max out the science collection rate, meaning i get 100% of the value the first time i do the experiment and dont need to repeatedly transmit a pressure reading as an example. I tried to manually edit my mod files to reflect this, but i was unable to eliminate the penalty. I changed the base value to match the science cap in the experiment definition, and havent been able to find any other place this is edited. Was hoping someone could point me towards the correct value!  

EDIT: Specific thing i was messing with was the space telescope, but adjusting it for the chemcam would help too lol!

Edited March 12, 2022 by Kepler68

[Kepler68]

On 3/11/2022 at 6:41 PM, Kepler68 said:

Hello everyone! Been getting back into KSP after a few years of hiatus and started running on the latest version with this mod installed! One thing that i normally do just for personal preference is max out the science collection rate, meaning i get 100% of the value the first time i do the experiment and dont need to repeatedly transmit a pressure reading as an example. I tried to manually edit my mod files to reflect this, but i was unable to eliminate the penalty. I changed the base value to match the science cap in the experiment definition, and havent been able to find any other place this is edited. Was hoping someone could point me towards the correct value!  

EDIT: Specific thing i was messing with was the space telescope, but adjusting it for the chemcam would help too lol!

Update: Full size one did change, guessing it's intentionally coded to have the small one give sub-full data lol!

[N3N]

On 12/24/2021 at 4:22 PM, Tonas1997 said:

What's the default name for the deploy animation? I'm making a compatibility patch for Kerbalism and I need the animation name for the advanced space telescope.

Hey @Tonas1997,

Did you have success with the Kerbalism patches?

 

And if yes, may there be a chance that this mod will work with Kerbalism, too?

[Connor Gorski]

If anyone is having issues with TST not working, the latest version  of scatterer (0.0834) broke the zoom in function.  Reverting back to scatterer  0.0831 will fix it.

[conao]

On 4/21/2022 at 6:07 AM, Connor Gorski said:

If anyone is having issues with TST not working, the latest version  of scatterer (0.0834) broke the zoom in function.  Reverting back to scatterer  0.0831 will fix it.

Yes, same here. I came here to ask the same question, but I didn't know it was Scattered causing it. Thanks for the tip. I hope the modders can fix it in one or the other mods.

[JPLRepo]

I will have to look into that issue/conflict when I have time.

[Spork Witch]

Just confirming I'm encountering this as well.  Zoom appears to only affect the skybox, providing a "fisheye"/parallax kind of effect as one might expect, but objects are not zoomed at all (added "Distant Object Enhancement" to see if that might help, and it had no effect on the zoom, though it did make objects appear at all where they didn't without it).  Science and contract credit IS still awarded if you aim for the target indicator and get the zoom right, but it's largely guesswork, for obvious reasons.

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[Apone3k]

Same problem as mentioned above. I don't use DOE.

Edited June 26, 2022 by Apone3k

[Brigadier]

Concur.  Just now started my career save (KSP 1.12.3, stock planets, TST 7.13) to verify that this is occurring to me, as well.

Do you want a mod list, log files, video?

Edit:  As of today (18 Aug), in my career save, this problem just..disappeared.  I have no idea why.   Perhaps updates to Kopernicus & Scatterer????

Edited August 18, 2022 by Brigadier
Problem vanished.

[modus]

For what it's worth, also having this

It's like DOE is turned off when you open the telescope.

[sdugbsngal]

Hey JPL, thank you for this awesome mod! I'm curious if I might be missing something. I have a space station in orbit with no HDD attached.  So I sent up a spacecraft with a HDD to dock with the station so I could transfer the science, but now that I am docked, clicking the transfer data/science buttons doesn't do anything. Is there something I have to do to transfer data to a docked vessel or is this not possible? If this is not intentional behavior I will attach some logs if you might have some time to take a look at them. 

Thanks again for all your hard work. I've been wanting a mod like this since I started playing years ago. 

[Frost114]

I first wanted to say I love this mod and thank you for taking the time to make this, but I'm have some problems with this mod. Whenever I use the zoom in option for the telescope, the distant stars become clearer which I suspect would happen, but the planets do not, also whenever I click the show bodies/show galaxies tab nothing besides the sun pops up.

[Spork Witch]

On 8/11/2022 at 2:29 AM, Frost114 said:

I first wanted to say I love this mod and thank you for taking the time to make this, but I'm have some problems with this mod. Whenever I use the zoom in option for the telescope, the distant stars become clearer which I suspect would happen, but the planets do not, also whenever I click the show bodies/show galaxies tab nothing besides the sun pops up.

This will only show bodies / galaxies you've previously taken photos of, so without a mission to take a picture of it, you have to scan the skies yourself to find it, and try to get a good enough picture for it to recognize it for a science reward, then it will show up in the list.  If you have a mission to take a picture of something, then you can hit the "show mission targets" (or similar) checkbox, and that will make it show in the list even if you haven't taken a picture of it before.  Now you can click on it to place a target indicator in the camera window, to more easily find it to take the required picture for the contract.

[Brigadier]

You can, if searching the sky for hours on end isn't why you're playing KSP in the first place, cheat a little bit if you use MechJeb and Kerbal Engineer Redux.

Spoiler

Ensure that your telescope is the control  point.   Use KER to set the scope's target as one of the celestial bodies (CB) listed (for some reason CBs are not hidden from KER).  Use MJ, or a SAS mod if you have it, to set Target+ mode and the scope should slew to the "invisible" CB.  Let the scope settle, zoom in and take a picture for the win.

 

[Brigadier]

KSP 1.12.3, TST 7.13, Research Bodies 1.13

I'm taking pictures of planets from a TST scope in Kerbin orbit.  The images I view and the pictures I save don't seem to correlate properly to the relative positions of the Sun and the target planet.  The pic below shows Duna with the illuminated side facing left but not enough of the face of the planet is visible given that Duna is only ~90º in front of Kerbin in this shot (I realize that the scope is rotated 180º).

I wasn't entirely sure I was interpreting this correctly but when I took a pic of Jool at +180º phase angle, I get this:

Jool's face should be fully illuminated but it appears backlit instead.   Both Duna and Jool are fully researched in RB.

Anything I'm not understanding, and, if not, any way to correct the illumination flaw?

[Jxsatsu]

I've got a question regarding the Webb telescope and adding reflections to it through textureunlimited, where i could find the CFG for the tarsier part and such. its the only dull part on an otherwise shiny ship, thanks in advance!!

 

[PaleEarnhardt]

Hello , i cant understand , is galaxies working for me or not. Because in the new game - there are clear list with galaxies. 

Logs : https://disk.yandex.ru/d/scjkOaUaCO_NqQ

[OrbitalManeuvers]

On 9/28/2022 at 11:17 PM, Brigadier said:

KSP 1.12.3, TST 7.13, Research Bodies 1.13

I'm taking pictures of planets from a TST scope in Kerbin orbit. 

Similar results on KSP 1.12.3, TST 7.13, KSRSS, (do not have ReasearchBodies)

Here's the tracking station. Earth is at the bottom, Mercury to the left should be about half illuminated, and Venus to the right should be even more.

Actual results:

[Rebry]

Hello. I have KSP 1.12.5.3190 version. I can't use telescope from this mode. I want right click on telescope and nothing happens. Can you please help?

[Brigadier]

Welcome to the forums and the community will try to help but you haven't really provided enough detail for anyone to diagnose potential problems.   Please read and follow the guidance in this thread.

Upload files and pictures to sharing services, such as Google Drive, Dropbox and Imgur (for pictures) and post links to those files here.  Please don't attempt to paste entire logs as text as they are way too long.

Which telescope are you using?  It has to be a TST one, not a stock one.

[Czejenesku]

How did you all get good performance? Im on 5900HX, 3070, 32GB Ram and even with just Research Bodies and Tarsier I get a significat fps drop.  I discovered this after Research Bodies was the last mod, of the ones I wanted, that I installed and it was really horrible then. So I removed all the mods, excelpt EVE, Scatt, DOE,PlanetShine, AVP and OPM. Tiny bit "better" but still very significant and unplayable. So I decided to do just stock with EVE, Scatt, PS and AVP - same thing. So I removed everything, did a clean install of KSP and Research B., Tarsier and their dependencies. Now it was way better but still under 30fps. Just to check i removed all those mods and run the game clean = 90+ fps. 
What the hell?
here is my player log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyl6zvyozn3n6hl/Player-prev.log?dl=0 (normal player log is of the clean install i tried afterwards)

[Mitokandria]

Is there a way to add TST telescope properties to other cameras added by mods? I just found out that I've been trying to use the "Onboard Camera" from DockingCamKURS. It has an almost identical camera window.

[OrbitalManeuvers]

1 hour ago, Mitokandria said:

Is there a way to add TST telescope properties to other cameras added by mods? I just found out that I've been trying to use the "Onboard Camera" from DockingCamKURS. It has an almost identical camera window.

Yes, BDB adds functionality to a few of their parts when TST is installed. If you have it installed, or just go to their github, it's in the Compatibility\Tarsier folder.

 

[Mitokandria]

14 minutes ago, OrbitalManeuvers said:

Yes, BDB adds functionality to a few of their parts when TST is installed. If you have it installed, or just go to their github, it's in the Compatibility\Tarsier folder.

 

I think that is the incorrect mod. The mod I am referencing is Docking Camera (KURS) https://spacedock.info/mod/1542/Docking camera (KURS)

Disregard.  I see what you meant now.

Edited March 25, 2023 by Mitokandria