Xd the great Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, GearsNSuch said: Hm. Instead of landing vertically, I suppose Starship could just plop down in one of those nets... A fairing is 800kg. A starship is 200 tonnes. The net will break, but it will be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Wotansen Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Sounds like it might end up being a net loss then.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 6 hours ago, Thor Wotansen said: Sounds like it might end up being a net loss then.... There is a proven solution. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GearsNSuch Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Thor Wotansen said: Sounds like it might end up being a net loss then.... Maybe with the fuel savings and scrap metal sales they could still net a profit. (Back on topic) I guess this means more Falcon launches and fairing catches in the near future. I’ve missed them. One boat per fairing half, I assume? Edited October 14, 2019 by GearsNSuch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealKerbal3x Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, GearsNSuch said: I guess this means more Falcon launches and fairing catches in the near future. I’ve missed them. One boat per fairing half, I assume? Yep, one boat per half. They couldn’t catch both with one boat because the fairing halves are separated by several kilometres during re-entry. Edited October 14, 2019 by RealKerbal3x Clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) Confirmed, vertical raptor test stand: ...that’s an unusually direct answer... Edited October 14, 2019 by CatastrophicFailure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 2 hours ago, RealKerbal3x said: Yep, one boat per half. They couldn’t catch both with one boat because the fairing halves are separated by several kilometres during re-entry. And even if they had you would not want them to hit each others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacke Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 15 hours ago, kerbiloid said: There is a proven solution. Hide contents Didn't work that well for Gwen Stacy in 1973.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 14 minutes ago, sh1pman said: Can you imagine what Elon Musk’s save games looks like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Just now, CatastrophicFailure said: Can you imagine what Elon Musk’s save games looks like? I... I think we've already been seeing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Just now, CatastrophicFailure said: Can you imagine what Elon Musk’s save games looks like? Prob modded with Tundra Exploration, Reusability Expansion and MKS. Duna colonized and industrialized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothalogh Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Can you imagine what Elon Musk’s save games looks like? They're not stranded, they're colonists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Works in KSP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothalogh Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, tater said: Works in KSP... inb4 shoop of Hawthorne mission control with KSP on every monitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tater Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 FCC paperwork for the 20km hop: https://fcc.report/ELS/Space-Exploration-Technologies-Corp-SpaceX/1939-EX-ST-2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothalogh Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 hours ago, tater said: FCC paperwork I still find it comical that somehow the most stringent regulatory hurdle here is the FCC, and not the FAA. Do they just call in the flight plan to the 1-800 number like everybody else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nothalogh said: Do they just call in the flight plan to the 1-800 number like everybody else? Not only. The orbit must follow the 5-char points from the Jeppesen charts. Edited October 15, 2019 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 15 hours ago, tater said: Wow. This suggests a 460+ kg nozzle extension. Is that normal? 13 hours ago, tater said: Wow again. that leaves a lot on the table. Anyone know the lowest pressure you can hit at SL without flow sep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, sevenperforce said: Anyone know the lowest pressure you can hit at SL without flow sep? It doesn't quite work that way. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/259898860_Flow_Separation_in_Rocket_Nozzles_-_An_Overview According to this paper, the Mach number in the nozzle is very important. And that depends a lot on the conditions at the throat of the nozzle. The simplest of the formulas given there seem to indicate that a Psep/Pambient of about 0.4 is the lowest generally safe value, but that specific designs can be lower than that. Edited October 15, 2019 by mikegarrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Holey mother of Kessler... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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