tater Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Canopus said: SpaceX won‘t reach Mars on their own money. You‘ll have to pay either way. They're building a craft capable of it, regardless. It is their F9 replacement. We can debate if they will succeed (I hope they do), but they've already stated that they are funding it regardless via commercial launches. ULA and Bigelow pitched a lunar station concept, but said the taxpayers had to pony up 2.3 B$, first. They have no model to build it first, then seek customers, nor does Boeing. If SpaceX can demonstrate BFS closer to home over multiple missions, then yeah, they will likely give NASA a crack at BFS for Mars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 3 hours ago, PB666 said: throttle it down to 5% Unlike in ksp, engines can't throttle arbitrarily low. 1 hour ago, kerbiloid said: Yes! My favorite spaceship! Radioactive tsunamis are the only downside. 2 hours ago, tater said: LOL. @illectro The BFR would have to be delayed 12 years in order for Boeing to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, tater said: Yeah, exactly. Of course having Boeing do it requires that all of us have a walletectomy every April. There are far, far worse things I can think of, some in the works, that I could be spending my tax money on, but I'm not allowed to talk about that on these forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I’d rather they spend my money on virtually any rocket than most of what they spend it on, I’m just saying the difference between the 2 companies in this regard is pretty profound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAL59 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 27 minutes ago, regex said: There are far, far worse things I can think of, some in the works, that I could be spending my tax money on, but I'm not allowed to talk about that on these forums. 1 hour ago, tater said: Of course having Boeing do it requires that all of us have a walletectomy every April. Some of the money does go to SpaceX, thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSlash27 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 8 hours ago, tater said: LOL. Boeing might be able to beat SpaceX to Mars... Or they might not ever get to Mars. It's irresponsible for Muilenburg to make this claim because he's not in charge of the funding necessary to make it happen. Best, -Slashy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 22 minutes ago, GoSlash27 said: It's irresponsible for Muilenburg to make this claim because he's not in charge of the funding necessary to make it happen. He didn't make a "claim" so much as a statement of conviction: Quote “I’m convinced that the first person to step foot on Mars will arrive there riding on a Boeing rocket,” he said, according to Bloomberg. Notice how the tweet doesn't put the claim in quotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 7 hours ago, DAL59 said: Yes! My favorite spaceship! Radioactive tsunamis are the only downside. What the name of it? Is it on project rho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 49 minutes ago, Spaceception said: What the name of it? Is it on project rho? Yep, it's called the Aldebaran. http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/surfaceorbit.php Wet mass 50,000 tonnes. Single nuclear-thermal engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 38 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: Yep, it's called the Aldebaran. http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/surfaceorbit.php Wet mass 50,000 tonnes. Single nuclear-thermal engine. Someone should clue them in that a “web site” need not cram the entire flarping thing onto a single page. Fascinating info, tho. I’m given to wonder if there’s a parallel universe somewhere where that stuff actually exists. And everyone lives underground. Way, way underground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 6 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Someone should clue them in that a “web site” need not cram the entire flarping thing onto a single page. Fascinating info, tho. I’m given to wonder if there’s a parallel universe somewhere where that stuff actually exists. And everyone lives underground. Way, way underground. That's his thing. It is tedious trying to find stuff though. But separating it better would be quote hard I think 7 hours ago, sevenperforce said: Yep, it's called the Aldebaran. http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/surfaceorbit.php Wet mass 50,000 tonnes. Single nuclear-thermal engine. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Spaceception said: That's his thing. It is tedious trying to find stuff though. But separating it better would be quote hard I think Thanks! They apparently have their mass fraction numbers screwed up. With today's modern turbopumps you would not need a nozzle quite so large. For a horizontal take-off rocket design to be taken seriously it would need to be a Mach capable design. That space craft does not appear to be able to generate enough lift to take off from water or survive a low altitude MACH speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ultimate Steve Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 With the HGTTG and a towel, would fuzzy dice be too much to ask for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: With the HGTTG and a towel, would fuzzy dice be too much to ask for? It might look derivative, since Sierra Nevada already did it: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 @tater Oh, I didn't think that had been done already! Now let's hope for someone to actually take them to space... Any funny ideas for licence plates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: @tater Oh, I didn't think that had been done already! Now let's hope for someone to actually take them to space... Any funny ideas for licence plates? OK, that is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 "IDIDIT1" Also "I honk for SLS'es" bumper sticker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silavite Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Admittedly it's a bumper sticker, not a license plate, but... WE BRAKE FOR NOBODY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, Silavite said: Admittedly it's a bumper sticker, not a license plate, but... WE BRAKE FOR NOBODY And right near that: and long as they’re sticking silly stickers on it, one needs to be: cuz c’mon, it is gonna go pretty darn fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) Don’t forget the can of “Perri-Air” in the cup holder License plate: “Outward” Bumper sticker: “My other car is a Dragon “ Edited December 8, 2017 by StrandedonEarth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 This whole thing reminds me of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Lol, headline the next day: FALCON HEAVY LAUNCH FAILS, CAR “PAYLOAD” COMES CRASHING BACK TO EARTH. TOO MUCH SILLY STUFF INSIDE SUSPECTED AS PRIMARY CAUSE.” Small glowing green orb reported in area, dozens melted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PB666 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said: @tater Oh, I didn't think that had been done already! Now let's hope for someone to actually take them to space... Any funny ideas for licence plates? LOST IN SPACE DON'T LOOK DOWN. Front: MINE ME. Back: NEAR MARS ASTEROID TRANSFERRED Bumper sticker: Court-ejudicated property of my ex-wife Bumper sticker: Hey Scottie! you made a wrong turn. (in reference to the burial of his ashes in space). Bumper sticker: That last bump in the road was a duezzy. Bumper sticker: For sale. Air freshener and roads not included. Bumper sticker. If you can read this bumper sticker you f-d your launched. Bumper sticker. If you see the bumper rocking and Sigourney Weaver in the front seat don't make any deliveries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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