mikegarrison Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, magnemoe said: Agree, but it depend on that you are doing. Starship landings, its a lot like falcon 9 first stage landing tests, try 20 times before it works. Falcon was still successfully performing its basic mission before they got the landings to be survivable. Edited April 27, 2023 by mikegarrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brotoro Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) Looks like Falcon Heavy bumped 24 hours to Friday (so says YouTube link) Edited April 27, 2023 by Brotoro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Now 2 launches are set for FL ~2.5 hours apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, tater said: Now 2 launches are set for FL ~2.5 hours apart I thought that was impossible due to constraints from the ground support side. Did they get that taken care of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, mikegarrison said: I thought that was impossible due to constraints from the ground support side. Did they get that taken care of? Yeah, seems tight. We'll probably see one moved I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just now, tater said: Yeah, seems tight. We'll probably see one moved I guess? IIRC, it was something like the shared fire and water deluge support systems couldn't support more than one flight every 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: IIRC, it was something like the shared fire and water deluge support systems couldn't support more than one flight every 24 hours. Possible. The pads are quite far apart (1 on KSC, the other CC SFB), but that makes sense should they need emergency eqp—though it seems like if the first one didn't use such equipment, it's no longer in use—and SpaceX doesn't prop load til right before launch. <shrug> Yikes! Set SCE to AUX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvi Fisthaug Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, tater said: 1 on KSC Whenever I read KSC in non-Kerbal situations, I still go like "huh" before I go like "oh". Edited April 28, 2023 by Sylvi Fisthaug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, tater said: Set SCE to AUX! All-time legendary call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 5 hours ago, tater said: This vehicle doesn't cost that much. They've probably spent on Starship so far maybe what Boeing will get paid when they actually fulfill their crew contract. Starbase apparently employs ~1800 people (mentioned on stream I think). If the average is $100k/head, that's ~$200M/yr on payroll. Steel is cheap, engines are who knows right now... but well under $2M/ea by now I would expect, $1M? Less? So maybe they spend $1B/yr on this? Problem with superheavy was that it bombed the pad and how close it came to nuking it. First ones would be dumped anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Weather tomorrow and Saturday are both also lousy, only 20% go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 This Falcon Heavy does not want to fly, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Spaceception said: This Falcon Heavy does not want to fly, huh? "Everyone else got to come home..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 18 hours ago, mikegarrison said: IIRC, it was something like the shared fire and water deluge support systems couldn't support more than one flight every 24 hours. Apparently not a thing... ^^^ If the weather is OK, they launch 2. <shrug> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegarrison Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 49 minutes ago, tater said: Apparently not a thing... It was from a few years ago. I think an Atlas launch got delayed and that was going to prevent a Falcon launch, or vice versa. At least at that time I think the problem was that those two pads shared a water supply and the fire/emergency services coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: It was from a few years ago. I think an Atlas launch got delayed and that was going to prevent a Falcon launch, or vice versa. At least at that time I think the problem was that those two pads shared a water supply and the fire/emergency services coverage. I remember there being limitations as well—something must have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 IIRC there were range limitations, and part of the summer stand-down a few years ago was for range upgrades to support a higher launch cadence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Which means if FH goes, they are closer to an hour apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Someone on NSF said the current rule is that a second launch can happen as soon as the first vehicle passes over the local horizon. (take with a grain of salt) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 liftoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Landed. One of the best landing cams I've had the pleasure of watching live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meecrob Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 1 hour ago, tater said: Someone on NSF said the current rule is that a second launch can happen as soon as the first vehicle passes over the local horizon. (take with a grain of salt) Does this explain the Falcon landing downrange, or was the payload heavy enough that a downrange landing was necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Just now, Meecrob said: Does this explain the Falcon landing downrange, I doubt it considering the FH is fully expendable. It wouldn't need the landing pads. It was also supposed to launch days ago. Sending the boat out isn't something you can do on a whim. Takes days to get out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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