totm nov 2023 SpaceX Discussion Thread

[Kartoffelkuchen]

Just now, NFUN said:

Unfortunately, for a segment of the boostback one engine was out, once and for all proving the Raptor's unreliability

Interestingly enough, that engine succesfully relit for the landing burn.

They seem to have lost the ship which is… uh not good. 

[darthgently]

1 minute ago, Minmus Taster said:

Ship FTS was probably triggered if I had to guess

I think you are probably correct, hope not

[Nuke]

missed the launch, caught the catch, ship mia, and i got to go.

[StrandedonEarth]

At least that vent wasn’t burning after the catch, for once 

[darthgently]

It would be cool if a hardened black box could be ejected on its own LES prior to FTS.  Hungry!  Need DATA!

[Minmus Taster]

Confirmed, ship is dead

[RCgothic]

They'll have had data up until loss of vehicle, possibly a few moments after IMO.

Raptor pi survived a second flight though!

[tater]

 

[RCgothic]

Where is the ship going to come down I guess is now the question.

[darthgently]

Would be nice if normal ground radar tracking of space objects could kick in at times like this so we could see a whole ship, a debris field, or what

[Pthigrivi]

8 minutes ago, darthgently said:

I think you are probably correct, hope not

You almost have to trigger it on loss of signal, right? Otherwise it could come down whole in Africa or something?

12 minutes ago, farmerben said:

Yeah.  The only good stream I've found is Ellie in Space.  Who else is streaming?

I've always loved Tim Dodd. Switched over to that. I should check Ellie out. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Pthigrivi

[AckSed]

NSF is not quite as energetic, so I watch that.

[Pthigrivi]

You can see the methane is burning off much faster after that first center engine goes out. 

[tater]

I watch the real stream, all other patter is garbage.

[Kartoffelkuchen]

Video of debris reentering, somewhere over the carribean

Sorry for some reason I can‘t embed it on mobile. Looks magnificient

Edit: 

There‘s more

Edited 7 hours ago by Kartoffelkuchen

[GuessingEveryDay]

  

3 minutes ago, tater said:

I watch the real stream, all other patter is garbage.

Hmm, maybe they accidentally borrowed a few faulty Cybertruck motors from Austin? There was a Cybertruck that blew up in Las Vegas.

Edited 7 hours ago by GuessingEveryDay
Ninja'd without quote.

[AckSed]

1 minute ago, Kartoffelkuchen said:

Video of debris reentering, somewhere over the caribics

Such a beautiful funeral.

[tater]

 

[Jaelommiss]

I noticed a small section of starship's skin had peeled away and was flapping during ascent. You can see it on the very left of the video after liftoff. I wouldn't be surprised if loss of pressurization and supersonic air entering the vehicle caused the failure.

Edit: I rewatched the clip and you can see the steel pull apart starting 35 seconds after lift off.

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Jaelommiss

[Flavio hc16]

3 minutes ago, tater said:

 

This is bad, this might be a worse f-up than IFT-1

 

 

 

Another view:

 

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Flavio hc16

[darthgently]

20 minutes ago, Pthigrivi said:

You almost have to trigger it on loss of signal, right? Otherwise it could come down whole in Africa or something?

I've always loved Tim Dodd. Switched over to that. I should check Ellie out. 

I’ve been very happy with the direct SpaceX feeds from SpaceX.com.  Straight to the point.  And usually a few seconds ahead

Edited 7 hours ago by darthgently

[BeastHunter]

https://x.com/FlyerXT/status/1880027458642350095

Not sure how to do embeds but here is a video of the explosion.

Edited 7 hours ago by BeastHunter
Info about embed

[CBase]

They did lost one center engine at T+7:41, next center one at T+8:02 and the vacuum inbetween previous at T+8:04. Now Methan tank is rapidly depleting. I doubt that many engines failed in this clustering, probably rather fuel feed.

Most interesting is how long the ship kept going with this asymetric thrust. I would have expected FTS to trigger earlier.

[Minmus Taster]

11 minutes ago, BeastHunter said:

https://x.com/FlyerXT/status/1880027458642350095

Not sure how to do embeds but here is a video of the explosion.

Interesting, was it destroyed during the anomaly or reentry? Looked like there was plasma around it.

[StrandedonEarth]

8 minutes ago, CBase said:

They did lost one center engine at T+7:41, next center one at T+8:02 and the vacuum inbetween previous at T+8:04. Now Methan tank is rapidly depleting. I doubt that many engines failed in this clustering, probably rather fuel feed.

Most interesting is how long the ship kept going with this asymetric thrust. I would have expected FTS to trigger earlier.

It’s possible one engine did a RUD, damaging the methane line/tank and starving the other engines