[1.12.x] Engine Ignitor Re-ignited Release - NEW DEPENDENCY ADDED

[Errol]

Sorry for the double post, but this is something new that merits it, I think.

For some odd reason all the engines in the stock making history .cfg had ullage simulation set to false....which is not the way it should be. This is a corrected version;

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//Making history configs
// Based on IRL equivalents, using RO as reference
//by Zorg, updated by Errol

@PART[LiquidEngineKE-1]
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 0
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = External (launch Clamp)
	      UseUllageSimulation = true
    		ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.4  //0-1
    }
}

@PART[LiquidEngineLV-T91]//Based on LR91
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 1
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = Internal
    		UseUllageSimulation = true
    		ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.4  //0-1
    }
}

@PART[LiquidEngineLV-TX87]//Based on LR87
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 1 //To allow for Titan III style air start
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = Internal
    		UseUllageSimulation = true
    		ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.4  //0-1
    }
}

@PART[LiquidEngineRE-I2]//Based on J2
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 3
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = Internal
    		UseUllageSimulation = true
    		ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.4  //0-1
    }
}

@PART[LiquidEngineRE-J10]//Based on Apollo SPS AJ10
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 50
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = Internal
    		UseUllageSimulation = true
    		ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.4  //0-1
    }
}

@PART[LiquidEngineRK-7]//Based on Soyuz RD107
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 0
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = External (launch Clamp)
	      UseUllageSimulation = true
    		ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.4  //0-1
    }
}

@PART[LiquidEngineRV-1]//Probably soyuz verniers? Who can tell? Giving it similar ignitions to stock radial.
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 18
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = External (launch Clamp)
	      UseUllageSimulation = true
    		ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.4  //0-1
    }
}

Edited April 23, 2024 by Errol

[linuxgurugamer]

  On 1/15/2024 at 5:42 PM, Errol said:

Sorry for the double post, but this is something new that merits it, I think.

For some odd reason all the engines in the stock making history .cfg had ullage simulation set to false....which is not the way it should be. This is a corrected versio

 

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Can you make a pr, would just make it a bit easier

[WolfieKSP]

Hi, could you update the Tantares configs? Some engines work as expected, but some day not show the red text in the editor and have unlimited ignitions with no ullage required

[Hudsonkm]

Having the same issue as the person above. Strange though since I could have sworn that at one point all of the Tantares engines were working with ignitor. 

[xXIndestructibleEVAXx]

Hello! If anyone is interested, I have written some basic configs for the two engines in UnKerballed Start, as well as the methalox engines in CryoEngines and the multimode engines in NF Aeronautics, let me know and I'd be happy to share

[Overlocker96]

  On 8/8/2024 at 7:30 AM, xXIndestructibleEVAXx said:

Hello! If anyone is interested, I have written some basic configs for the two engines in UnKerballed Start, as well as the methalox engines in CryoEngines and the multimode engines in NF Aeronautics, let me know and I'd be happy to share

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I've already made configs for the Methalox engines of Cryogenic Engines mod.

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// Methalox Engines
// Config by forum user Overlocker

// First 4 Engines copied from old Near Future Launch Vehicles LF engines than has been repurposed to Cryogenic Methalox Engines.

@PART[cryoengine-deinonychus-1]:NEEDS[CryoEngines]//Space X Raptor Sea level. RO has 5 ignitions but given the use of sl raptors on starship Im going with unlimited spark igntions here. NFLV is also high tech level.
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 1000
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = Internal
        UseUllageSimulation = true
        ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.2
    }
}

//RS-18 is an LMAE modified to run methalox. No ignition data found. Assuming a spark ignitor for unlimited ignitions which is reasonable if it got adoopted into the constellation program. Balanced with higher EC requirement given its size. Its also in a high tech node since its NFLV.
@PART[cryoengine-hawk-1]:NEEDS[CryoEngines]
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 1000
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = Internal
        UseUllageSimulation = true
        ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.2
    }
}

@PART[cryoengine-iguanodon-1]:NEEDS[CryoEngines]//Blue Origin BE-4
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 4
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        UseUllageSimulation = true
        ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.2
    }
}

@PART[cryoengine-eagle-1]:NEEDS[CryoEngines]//Space X Raptor Vacuum. Unlimited ignitions as per RO. Balanced with higher EC requirment for igniting.
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 1000
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = Internal
        UseUllageSimulation = true
        ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.2
    }
}

@PART[cryoengine-compsognathus-1]:NEEDS[CryoEngines]// ESA Prometheus Rocket Engine from Themis reusable rocket demonstrator and Ariane Next. Reusable 3 to 5 times.
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 5
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = Internal
        UseUllageSimulation = true
        ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.2
    }
}

@PART[cryoengine-buzzard-1]:NEEDS[CryoEngines]// Avio M10 Upper Stage Engine for Vega E Rocket. No info on ignitions yet. 5 Ignitions needed to compete with Vega C AVUM Upper Stage. Based on RD-843 Engine.
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 5
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = Internal
        UseUllageSimulation = true
        ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.2
    }
}

@PART[cryoengine-harrier-1]:NEEDS[CryoEngines]// TQ11/12 Vacuum Zhuque-2 Second Stage Engine. No info on Ignitions.
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 4
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = Internal
        UseUllageSimulation = true
        ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.2
    }
}

@PART[cryoengine-allosaur-1]:NEEDS[CryoEngines]// Methalox STBE concept. Same as RP-1 SBTE (KS-160 Orca) but 4 ignitions based on RO SBTE-3 Methalox engine.
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 4
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        UseUllageSimulation = true
        ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.2
        IgnitorType = Internal
    }
}

@PART[cryoengine-tyrannosaur-1]:NEEDS[CryoEngines]//Space X 7x Raptor Sea level Cluster. Same as Deinonychus unlimited ignitions. (Maybe recovering 3.75m boosters)
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 1000
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        IgnitorType = Internal
        UseUllageSimulation = true
        ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.2
    }
}

@PART[cryoengine-vulture-1]:NEEDS[CryoEngines]//Blue Origin BE-4U. Same as BE-4 but for Vacuum so another ignition for added complexity. Also New Glenn may use 2 BE-3U Vacuum Engine with 5 Ignitions.
{
    MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleEngineIgnitor
        IgnitionsAvailable = 5
        AutoIgnitionTemperature = 800
        UseUllageSimulation = true
        ChanceWhenUnstable = 0.2
    }
}

There's also configs for Mk2 eXpansion and Restock Plus in the previous page.

Edited August 8, 2024 by Overlocker96

[leleor]

Still don't know how to reload ignitors. When I'm in EVA with an engineer and try to take an ignitor from the ignitor toolbox, it says "Requires engineer power". This might be the dumbest question here, but I've been playing KSP for 2 weeks or smth like that so...

[KeaKaka]

This might be an odd question but is there any way to make the EngineIgnitor module point to a specific ModuleEngines on the part?

There's an engine part with two independent ModuleEngines and I'd like to add an ignitions limit to both, or at a stretch give them different amounts of relights but using the standard EngineIgnitor config layout it only applies to the first ModuleEngines in the part's config, giving the second ModuleEngines infinite relights.

[linuxgurugamer]

  On 11/22/2024 at 8:53 AM, KeaKaka said:

This might be an odd question but is there any way to make the EngineIgnitor module point to a specific ModuleEngines on the part?

There's an engine part with two independent ModuleEngines and I'd like to add an ignitions limit to both, or at a stretch give them different amounts of relights but using the standard EngineIgnitor config layout it only applies to the first ModuleEngines in the part's config, giving the second ModuleEngines infinite relights.

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Not easily, it's been a while since I looked at this, but I don't recall seeing anything which would reference a specific engine module

[a Beaver]

I want to make igniting engines require a certain amount of one resource as well as a certain amount of another, is that something i can do with this mod?

[Errol]

  On 2/23/2025 at 7:58 PM, a Beaver said:

I want to make igniting engines require a certain amount of one resource as well as a certain amount of another, is that something i can do with this mod?

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Older versions of this mod relied on multiple different things to be tracked, but they were redundant and not very realistic. It used to be that ignition required some of a resource called "hypergolic fluid" along with some EC and an "ignitor." However, similar to how some life support mods combine concepts together to both make the mod easier to code/manage and also more streamlined for game play, the hypergolic fluid requirement was dropped. At the end of the day, for engines that have limited ignitions, what we really care about is how many times can it light? The EC requirement still serves as a check on if the craft should be able use it's ignitors (and I would be ok with this EC requirement also getting removed).

Maybe try checking the mod Real Fuels, I'm not sure what all it can do, but it's certainly more than this mod can.

Also, @linuxgurugamer, I made that pull request to enable ullage simulation on making history engines like you asked for..

Edited March 3 by Errol

[linuxgurugamer]

New release,  1.3.7.8

• Thanks to github user @errolkokbas (forum user @errol) for this:
  • Enable ullage simulation for making history engines
     

[dave1904]

Ive been having issues with deployable engines and engine ignitor for some time now. The J-2X and RL-10 are the ones I use the most and they always use up all ignitions in a matter of seconds. I get the ignition sound in rapid succession but noting is happening even though my fuel is settled. Its only on engines with deployable nozzles. Its not the case in a clean install with no other mods. 

 

Edited 22 hours ago by dave1904