AlphaMensae Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 The new v2 Saturn/Shuttle tower and pad accessory parts are going to get another redo, a smaller one this time, in order to improve the textures and consolidate as as much of the parts on two texture sheets: a big 2k one used for the platform/base and a whole lot of other things, and a small 512k (plus another for the gray versions) for the various tower and other small stuff. Going to change the UV maps and rebuild the tower sections so I can put shadow lines inside the I-beams, something I started doing with the American Stand towers, and makes them look better by providing fake ambient occlusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Dry Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Do the towers and poles really haver to be decouplers - technically-wise? It's not an issue, but for the sake of MJ autostaging it would be cool when these parts are recognized as launch clamps. I can live with pressing spacebar once though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Dry Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 btw: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, Gordon Dry said: Do the towers and poles really haver to be decouplers - technically-wise? It's not an issue, but for the sake of MJ autostaging it would be cool when these parts are recognized as launch clamps. I can live with pressing spacebar once though. They use the Animated Decouplers plugin so they can be animated by staging in addition to manual animation. Rather necessary for early career mode if you don't have action groups from the start, as well as providing an alternative to using action groups. This was a requested feature rather early on And I should do something about those small nodes in the rectangular stand, if that's what you meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Dry Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 The rectangle is rotated by 90° relative to the base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 33 minutes ago, Gordon Dry said: The rectangle is rotated by 90° relative to the base. Ah, yes, that's due to how launch clamps are set up in Unity and ModuleLaunchClamp. Clean rotation isn't always possible, especially with non-round or square clamps. There's three specific transforms required, and they stay fixed in place, and don't rotate with the rest of the part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasseji Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Another Mod to add to permanent modlist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 Latest WIP, the Tier 2 crew elevator to go with the Tier 1 service tower...alos inspired by the Gemini-Titan II one: Still adding more height variants. The height of the elevator car and access floor (inside the tower) can be adjusted using the deploy limit sliders. The car itself also has an animated gate (with collider) that raises and lowers automatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 Longer demo of the completed Gemini Crew Elevator. It will be on the Github real soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasseji Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Very nice, cant wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Jasseji said: Very nice, cant wait It's on the Github now, in the AlphaDev branch, AlphaDev folder, v2_American Stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 One final thing (? ) for the American Launch Stand pack: a switchable swing arm option for the small tower umbilical: In keeping with the early tech look, it's just an I-beam with the hose slung underneath...no fancy trusses here. Arm color is selectable as well, in tandem with the long mount's, so the two will be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Dry Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Still: Warning on PartSubtype Gray on module ModuleB9PartSwitch (moduleID='textureSwitch') on part SaturnCraneNew: Exception while initializing a texture replacment: (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) InvalidOperationException: Texture HammerheadCrane not found! at B9PartSwitch.TextureSwitchInfo+<CreateTextureReplacements>d__8.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[B9PartSwitch.TextureReplacement].AddEnumerable (IEnumerable`1 enumerable) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[B9PartSwitch.TextureReplacement].AddRange (IEnumerable`1 collection) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype.FindTextureReplacements () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:Internal_LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.Logger:LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception) B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype:FindTextureReplacements() B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype:Setup(ModuleB9PartSwitch) B9PartSwitch.ModuleB9PartSwitch:InitializeSubtypes() B9PartSwitch.ModuleB9PartSwitch:OnLoadPrefab(ConfigNode) B9PartSwitch.CustomPartModule:OnLoad(ConfigNode) PartModule:Load(ConfigNode) Part:AddModule(ConfigNode, Boolean) PartLoader:ParsePart(UrlConfig, ConfigNode) <CompileParts>c__Iterator1:MoveNext() UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr) (Filename: Line: -1) [RemoteTech] ModuleRTAntennaPassive: Found TRANSMITTER block. (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) [MechJeb2] Starting the Dispatcher (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) ManeuverPlanner initialization: found 17 maneuvers (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) Warning on PartSubtype Gray on module ModuleB9PartSwitch (moduleID='textureSwitch') on part SaturnCraneNew(Clone): Exception while initializing a texture replacment: (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) InvalidOperationException: Texture HammerheadCrane not found! at B9PartSwitch.TextureSwitchInfo+<CreateTextureReplacements>d__8.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[B9PartSwitch.TextureReplacement].AddEnumerable (IEnumerable`1 enumerable) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[B9PartSwitch.TextureReplacement].AddRange (IEnumerable`1 collection) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype.FindTextureReplacements () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:Internal_LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.Logger:LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception) B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype:FindTextureReplacements() B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype:Setup(ModuleB9PartSwitch) B9PartSwitch.ModuleB9PartSwitch:InitializeSubtypes() B9PartSwitch.ModuleB9PartSwitch:OnAwake() PartModule:Awake() UnityEngine.Object:Internal_CloneSingle(Object) UnityEngine.Object:Instantiate(GameObject) PartLoader:CreatePartIcon(GameObject, Single&) PartLoader:ParsePart(UrlConfig, ConfigNode) <CompileParts>c__Iterator1:MoveNext() UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr) (Filename: Line: -1) Warning on PartSubtype Gray on module ModuleB9PartSwitch (moduleID='textureSwitch') on part SaturnCraneNew(Clone): Exception while initializing a texture replacment: (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) InvalidOperationException: Texture HammerheadCrane not found! at B9PartSwitch.TextureSwitchInfo+<CreateTextureReplacements>d__8.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[B9PartSwitch.TextureReplacement].AddEnumerable (IEnumerable`1 enumerable) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[B9PartSwitch.TextureReplacement].AddRange (IEnumerable`1 collection) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype.FindTextureReplacements () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:Internal_LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.Logger:LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception) B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype:FindTextureReplacements() B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype:Setup(ModuleB9PartSwitch) B9PartSwitch.ModuleB9PartSwitch:InitializeSubtypes() B9PartSwitch.ModuleB9PartSwitch:OnIconCreate() PartLoader:CreatePartIcon(GameObject, Single&) PartLoader:ParsePart(UrlConfig, ConfigNode) <CompileParts>c__Iterator1:MoveNext() UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr) (Filename: Line: -1) [RemoteTech] ModuleRTAntennaPassive: OnDestroy (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) [RemoteTech] ModuleSPU: OnDestroy: no vessel! (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) PartLoader: Part 'AlphaDev/v2_Saturn/Saturn-Hammerhead-Crane-New/SaturnCraneNew' has no database record. Creating. (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) Warning on PartSubtype Gray on module ModuleB9PartSwitch (moduleID='textureSwitch') on part SaturnCraneNew(Clone) Drag Rendering Clone: Exception while initializing a texture replacment: (Filename: C:/buildslave/unity/build/artifacts/generated/common/runtime/DebugBindings.gen.cpp Line: 51) InvalidOperationException: Texture HammerheadCrane not found! at B9PartSwitch.TextureSwitchInfo+<CreateTextureReplacements>d__8.MoveNext () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[B9PartSwitch.TextureReplacement].AddEnumerable (IEnumerable`1 enumerable) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at System.Collections.Generic.List`1[B9PartSwitch.TextureReplacement].AddRange (IEnumerable`1 collection) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype.FindTextureReplacements () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:Internal_LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.DebugLogHandler:LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.Logger:LogException(Exception, Object) UnityEngine.Debug:LogException(Exception) B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype:FindTextureReplacements() B9PartSwitch.PartSubtype:Setup(ModuleB9PartSwitch) B9PartSwitch.ModuleB9PartSwitch:InitializeSubtypes() B9PartSwitch.ModuleB9PartSwitch:OnAwake() PartModule:Awake() UnityEngine.GameObject:SetActive(Boolean) DragCubeSystem:SetupPartForRender(Part, GameObject) <RenderDragCubesCoroutine>c__Iterator0:MoveNext() UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr) UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine_Auto_Internal(IEnumerator) UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine(IEnumerator) <SetupDragCubeCoroutine>c__Iterator2:MoveNext() UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr) UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine_Auto_Internal(IEnumerator) UnityEngine.MonoBehaviour:StartCoroutine(IEnumerator) <CompileParts>c__Iterator1:MoveNext() UnityEngine.SetupCoroutine:InvokeMoveNext(IEnumerator, IntPtr) (Filename: Line: -1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) @Gordon Dry Looks like I never uploaded the gray hammerhead crane texture, must have forgotten about it in the initial upload. It's in the Github now. Edit: Actually, I deleted the entire 3D_Assets_Dev folder from the Github a week ago, and reuploaded it...the folder I uploaded the files from must have been missing that one. Edited December 7, 2018 by AlphaMensae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 7, 2018 Author Share Posted December 7, 2018 Latest WIP: The original intended American Launch stand, reborn and remade as the Saturn Launch Stand, still based on the original LC-34/37 pads for the Saturn I and IB: In keeping with the launch stand theme, there is no deck, as in my terminology a "stand" is an open-frame type rocket holder with no deck, and towers go on the side; a pad has a full deck that is accessible by Kerbals and on which stuff like towers can be mounted. So this one is open I-beams and central ring. The integrated hold-down arms are styled after the ones used for the Saturn I/IB, they'll be able to be switched off and separate hold-downs used. Core size configurations are 4.25m, 3.75m, 3.125m, 2.5m and 1.875m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomC3PO Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Love the mod, I'm having an issue placing the support tower on the round base, when I try to offset it down so that it isn't floating above the launchpad, it "Jumps" inwards towards the rocket and I can't seem to move it back out. I'm probably just doing something wrong but if you have any suggestions I'd be very appreciative. I can post pictures or a video if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesecake Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 4 hours ago, PhantomC3PO said: Love the mod, I'm having an issue placing the support tower on the round base, when I try to offset it down so that it isn't floating above the launchpad, it "Jumps" inwards towards the rocket and I can't seem to move it back out. I'm probably just doing something wrong but if you have any suggestions I'd be very appreciative. I can post pictures or a video if that helps. I know what you mean. Had this issue too yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 8, 2018 Author Share Posted December 8, 2018 8 hours ago, PhantomC3PO said: Love the mod, I'm having an issue placing the support tower on the round base, when I try to offset it down so that it isn't floating above the launchpad, it "Jumps" inwards towards the rocket and I can't seem to move it back out. I'm probably just doing something wrong but if you have any suggestions I'd be very appreciative. I can post pictures or a video if that helps. Hold down left shift when dragging the offset arrows to get unlimited offset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomC3PO Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 55 minutes ago, AlphaMensae said: Hold down left shift when dragging the offset arrows to get unlimited offset Awesome, thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natokerbal Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 @AlphaMensae is there any guide for how to build the shuttle launchpad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, Natokerbal said: @AlphaMensae is there any guide for how to build the shuttle launchpad? None yet, but there is a subassembly and a CA shuttle craft file for it on the Github's AlphaDev branch. I'll eventually make video guides for the pads and stands, but it will be a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Saturn Launch Stand and Small Saturn Tower are done: Only the general crew access arm is done, I still have to make the general swng arm and drop umbilicals, so this is an imcomplete demo. The stand has configurations for 4.25m, 3.75, 3.125m, 2.5m and 1.875m stack sizess, and has integrated hold-down arms in differerent configurations as well; these can be switched off and other hold-downs used instead. The stand has an optional base block for the tower (like the real one had), with four different positions available (not like the real one ;-) ). Towers can be used without the base block if desired. The tower has switchable (nominal) heights from 10m to 50m in 5m increments, and can be used as an unmanned service tower, or as a crew elevator with two types of a crew access section (2.5m and 5m) and an elevator pad. The tower base block has a ladder that Kerbals can use to access the crew elevator if the tower if mounted on the block. The Apollo-Saturn IB used for the demo launch is from Bluedog Design Bureau. Edited December 10, 2018 by AlphaMensae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasseji Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 10 hours ago, AlphaMensae said: The Apollo-Saturn IB used for the demo launch is from Bluedog Design Bureau. Is there any other ? Great work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMensae Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Jasseji said: Is there any other ? Great work Thanks, and yeah, it seemed redundant to say that, but I should give proper credit to BDB here as well Also, the real LC-34/37 tower was rotated in relation to the stool so that a corner was facing it; such an arrangement would not be good for a general-purpose arm, so the tower base block is at the regular 90-degree orientation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasseji Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, AlphaMensae said: Thanks, and yeah, it seemed redundant to say that, but I should give proper credit to BDB here as well Also, the real LC-34/37 tower was rotated in relation to the stool so that a corner was facing it; such an arrangement would not be good for a general-purpose arm, so the tower base block is at the regular 90-degree orientation. cheers, any chance for your craft files for the new stuff ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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