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Third Mun Mission, or, Jeb Gets Some New Toys (Finale, now with more Minmus)


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(A.K.A. BILL AND JEB'S EXCELLENT ADVENTURE)

TL;DR:  TODAY I LEARNED THAT "CHECK YO' STAGIN'" APPLIES TO DOCKING PORTS.  

I am new to Kerbal Space Program and going through career mode.  After the crew of my second Mun landing returned to Kerbin with 1,859.6 science on board, I decided to get ... ambitious greedy.  

I started by unlocking Very Heavy Rocketry, its associated fueling needs, the long-awaited NERV, and Composites.  Initially I just wanted to use the NERV as any upper stage, since it was so efficient.  But there was a contract for mining ore, and I already wanted to land, so why not try to make a refueling lander?  It turned out to be a lot heavier than expected, so I went with 3x engine symmetry (2 would have been enough power but 3 made better symmetry and I was used to high munar TWR from my first two landings), and packed a bunch of the baby airplane fuel cylinders next to the engines since they have the best fuel-to-weight ratio of all the liquid tanks—which also gave me a place to mount landing gear that could actually reach the ground, and a better place to mount drills than some very sneaky girders.  Then, since I had the power, I upgraded the converter since the small one's ore-to-fuel ratio is garbage.  I didn't have the Gigantor solar panels unlocked yet, but looking at the energy requirements I decided to use the last of my science to do so.  

I wanted to do a bunch of contracts.  I had several around the Mun, for which I needed a rover and a satellite, and I wanted to mount them both on the nose.  Hmm.  I decided to put clamp-o-trons on the rover and nose, then put the satellite in the middle.  I added RCS to the rover so I could, in theory, detach in spaceflight, launch the satellite, and then reattach to the lander.  I've never docked anything before, but how hard can it be?  (Backup plan: carry the satellite down, drop the rover, launch satellite after takeoff.)  

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03 first miner with accessories (2pqqj3a)

Speaking of docking, on this mission I plan to try it for the first time again—ship to ship this time.  My middle stage should make Mun orbit, and if the lander refinery works as well as hoped, I can potentially come back up, dock, donate a little fuel (I put modest L+O tankage on the nuke with this hope—contents donated to the middle stage, of course—plus I could refine more ore after docking), then transfer crews, land again, collect science and fuel again, and did I mention both crews still need a Mun landing under their belt?  

Now all I had to do was figure out how the heck to lift all this junk.  Fortunately I had just unlocked the Mammoth.  Even so, I still needed to attach some Kickbacks to give me what I consider decent launchpad thrust.  For the middle stage, a Skipper might be adequate to the task, but I thought, "Hey, the Rhino gets better ISP anyway, right?  And it will keep my burns short.  Let's try this sucker out."  Plus it let me keep my rocket fatter; this thing is much taller than any rocket I've made before.  

Looking at what I'd done in the VAB—what I'd done to the VAB?—I named it the Abomination.  The fairing covered 45% of the rocket.  It's over 100 tons heavier than my previously biggest rocket, which was almost 100 tons heavier than my previously biggest rocket.  And it's not too far shy of double the cost, though a lot of this is tied up in stuff meant to be recovered.  

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08 Abomination (2nd miner, 4 engines) on launchpad (2m7vkg1)

I had just accepted a contract to test the aerospace decoupler at 51-55km while going 1110-1890m/s, which put some constraints on my flight profile, but it actually worked pretty well with a reasonable gravity turn.  It took me a couple of tries to get it right, but I don't feel too guilty about reverting for that sort of thing.  They aren't terrible fins—or at least they looked the part.  

The Rhino performed beautifully, too.  It started up well in the upper atmosphere, so I'm sure it was at least as efficient as any other upper stage could have been, and the extra power let me carry more fuel that the main lifter would have otherwise been using (at less effiency).  The downside is that if the Mammoth was allowed to use that fuel I was confident of recovery; this way, I didn't even try for this mission, though I may if I find myself with a similar lower stage in the future.  

On the last Mun landing, I caught a Minmus intercept completely by accident while planning the trip home, but didn't have the fuel to do it.  Not this time, my crew thinks.  Not this time.  

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As it turns out, the main difficulty of reattaching the rover—other than that I'm terrible at docking—was that it really wasn't designed with docking in mind.  First, the lines of sight were very bad, and second, I didn't realize I'd offset the docking port so that a little bit of it was blocked by a girder.  The magnetism seems to be holding it in place for now, so hopefully that will hold up until I land.  If it falls off upon landing that will just save me the trouble.  

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04 docking issues (2hrhm6t)

The satellite was then on its merry way after reaching the correct altitude to turn on its engine to fulfill a contract.  I was careful of where the main ship was, after having read many horror stories about inattentive launch collisions!  It has tons of delta-V, which is good because it needs to fulfill two orbital requirements; it may have enough to spare to do something useful.  Even if it doesn't, three contracts on one small satellite that at worst will be a half-decent Mun relay antenna isn't bad.  

The orbiter (the Rhino) is another story.  By my calculations at the time, it did have enough to get into my preferred capture orbit but it's tighter than I thought back in the VAB when I was doing gross estimation instead of precise engineering.  I hoped I would be able to get into my subsequent planned lower orbit.  (To make a rendezvous with the mining ship easier—the refueling might be more than a novelty now.)  Alternatively I could have just bailed out and tried for Kerbin immediately after the capture, but I wanted to stick to the mission plan.  
 

Apparently, magnetism gets weaker during time warp.  
 

I wanted to orient my vessel in a certain direction to ensure the orbiter didn't get in the way of the lander's maneuver.  I knew that the maneuver node could sometimes move around a bit on you, but I was totally unprepared for one that meandered across a 45° swath of the navball!  I can't help but imagine the loosely attached rover had something to do with it, but even so, that was ridiculous.  Every time I thought I was close, it dashed back in the direction I came from, sort of like the way SAS autocorrects.  

Speaking of misbehaving maneuver nodes, apparently the satellite was small enough, and the antenna big enough, that the engine was significantly offset from the center of mass.  At least, that was the hypothesis I formed as the thing bucked like a bronco for the nearly two minute burn despite the fact that I was only packing a Spark.  Or perhaps too much of the weight was in the back?  I will keep this in mind for more important future missions.  

The rover, in the meantime, had gotten loose again.  Fortunately I cought it before it had gone more than a couple meters.  I was becoming concerned.  I wondered how it would behave under deceleration.  At least, I reasoned, it would be only compressive forces, not pulling the clamps apart, but it's off center—that's the whole problem.  But although the clamps are off center, the center of mass (as I eyeballed it) looked like it should be right over the center of the rocket, so maybe it would be fine.  I had plenty of monopropellant, even without being able to transfer any from the ship.  As long as it waits until landing—or perhaps even the final approach—to wobble off the ship, I'm golden.  

But, a pessimistic voice whispered, if it's not docked then you can't undock it.  what if it sticks through the landing and doesn't want to go?  Will the monopropellant be enough to push it loose?  Almost certainly yes, I thought.  I was glad I thought of the possibility, but I was sure it was not a true concern.  

After another repetition of the rover escape and a couple more times it seemed to be threatening to, I think I've figured out the behavior.  Whenever "normal activity" is suspended, either from time warp or from leaving the area (to adjust my satellite's orbit) the half-on, half-off docking port starts to freak out.  Possibly the game is trying to make it fit correctly, but running into a conflict with the girder that's in the way.  It wasn't a problem when it was built that way but it looks like detaching it was a one-way trip, at least for this particular rover.  

There seem to be one of two "resting states": one where the clamps are together but offset as in the picture above, and one where the clamps are perfectly aligned but being held apart by the girder.  If I leave the area when it's in the first position the rover wants to go to the second position, but if I leave the area when it's in the second position then it wants to lose the connection and drift away. 

Anyway, I lined up the target on the ground, giving it a little lead for rotation and overshooting a bit on purpose because I usually end up short of the planned line.  In this case I had to stick to the plan more than usual once I got close to the finish line because if I turned the ship too fast the rover would definitely lose its connection, and I didn't want to do that too far from the actual landing zone.  

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05 approach to mun landing (vz9652)

After what is by far the most fuel-wasteful deorbit I have ever done (possibly partially because of the unusually steep orbit I'm coming down from), I was slowly decelerating into the landing zone, and I noticed I was drifting a little bit.  As said before, any sudden course corrections would cause the rover to get squirrely, which is a complication I didn't need, so I quickly switched to it at a couple dozen meters up, mashed the RCS, and just let it fall to the ground, where it bounced very nicely without exploding even a little.  

I eased myself down in the most cowardly possible way, RCS blasting, secure in the knowledge that as long as I made it to the ground intact I would be taking off with full tanks.  

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06 landed with rover dropped nearby (289kfi9)

I'd like to say Jebediah had a fine old time roaming around the countryside on the rover, but it turns out Bill neglected to install any seats.  Not that that little detail would stop Jeb, but unfortunately his crewmates managed it.  OKTO sighed a little sigh and dutifully went off alone in search of temperature readings, and maybe love.  

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07 rover operational, beep beep (zufbwh)

Well, like many would-be lovers, OKTO forgot which way was forward and went 20 kilometers in the wrong direction.  But the detour didn't cost much more time than it took for the mining and refining to finish completely.  Then I just burned for orbit, trying to get one that was easy to match to the orbiter (I went polar because of the landing zone, so rotation was a factor.)  Getting into AN obit wasn't so bad; getting into a MATCHING orbit was a little more of a chore.  But that, I think, is a mission report for another day. 

TO BE CONTINUED...

 

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Jeb managed to put the mining ship into a polar orbit without too much trouble, and the longitudinal inclination (if that's even a thing) was reasonably close.  But the other ship was a third of an orbit away, and the crew decided to take their time with the rendezvous to conserve on fuel, especially since the longer they lingered the more contract survey locations they were likely to pass through.  

Several orbits and surveys later—and in the meantime a more traditional munar tour bus had arrived—the time for rendezvous had finally come.  I'd accidentally let the orbiter get ahead on the last pass, so I lowered my orbit and scored a closest approach of 0.1 km, which in fact turned out to be twenty-five meters.  Nice!  

It turns out that I am terrible at both docking and RCS thruster placement on oddly shaped ships, so it's hard to tell which one was the bigger problem.  When I tried to finesse the docking attempt I met with abject failure, so I just lined up the noses, turned on SAS, and went in harder, braking as I got close.  That worked, and I was still able to fill the orbiting ship's mono with some left over.  

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12 maneuvering the mineRhino (16huih3)

Once the crew transfer was completed (Jeb called dibs on EVA) it was time to hit up another site for the other flag.  

The crew decided that since polar orbits were less likely to be done in the future, they might as well hit up a polar landing zone while they were at it.  They picked out a cliffside for the excellent view...

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09 1st miner at new location (2s9puo5)

Since we're in a refueling vessel, there's no shame in "stop and drop" to kill lateral velocity for an easy touchdown.  I don't think I'd quite call myself terrible at powered landings, but I'm certainly no expert.  This is only my fourth one, after all, not counting using the engine to supplement parachutes for soft touchdowns on Kerbin.  And not counting crashes.  

Meanwhile, the tourism orbiter bus had come and gone, but not before disgorging a lander carrying two more tourists and two scientists, landing in a more equatorial location with my shiny new very first science lab.  Free science is nice and all but it seems awfully slow.  I guess it would be great if I spent more time timewarping but I like to keep my kerbals occupied.  I suppose it really shines on interplanetary expeditions:  you don't have to wait for the full round trip to get your science income.  I overkilled on the electricity this time; it was easier than researching how much the lab would actually use.  

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10 science lab lander (10psvtx)

Valentina allowed the scientists out just long enough to reset the goo and material bay experiments a bunch of times, and after a quick snack on the surface they were back in orbit, snapping up a couple more contract locations.  Hey, what's that?  A contract for docking two ships on or around the Mun?  Yeah, that doesn't seem too far out of the way.  Easy money.  Now let's go earn it while the remaining tourists head home.  

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11 1st miner docked with Rhino in mun orbit (e01wtt)

This time I avoided the problem of being bad with RCS by docking on the main engine alone.  I shared the pilots' sentiments exactly.  

But the contract didn't complete.  Huh.  The contract doesn't say anything about the ships needing to be made after the contract was accepted, so maybe the problem is that they started as parts of the same launch.  Oh, well.  

A little calculation of my delta-V later, and it's off to Minmus!  (This will be my first trip there aside from the "wandering satellite" that picked up the career contract only a few hours ago.)  

TO BE CONTINUED ... AT MINMUS! 

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20 hours ago, FinalFan said:

maybe the problem is that they started as parts of the same launch.  Oh, well.  

Yes, I haven't experienced this issue myself, but @Snark has, and his conclusion was that they came from the same launch, thus causing the contact to say that it was not a "docking". You can ask @Snark for more info. Looking forward to seeing more! Also, very creative problem solving there!

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This time I avoided the problem of being bad with RCS by docking on the main engine alone.  I shared the pilots' sentiments exactly. 

I do main engine docking 50% of the time!

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On 4/26/2018 at 6:37 PM, FinalFan said:

But the contract didn't complete.  Huh.  The contract doesn't say anything about the ships needing to be made after the contract was accepted, so maybe the problem is that they started as parts of the same launch.

Ding ding ding.  Yeah, it's frustrating, I know.

I assume they did this so that someone can't exploit it by launching a ship that just separates and immediately re-docks.  Forcing them to be from different launches certainly prevents that exploit.  However... seems to me that if you go to orbit, send a vehicle down to land, then bring it back up to orbit to re-dock, then that feels like it should count, gosh darn it.  And in any case, as a player, the part I found the most frustrating is that the contract didn't actually explicitly say "they have to be from two separate launches"-- it just says "two vessels".

Oh well.  I consider that to be a shortcoming in the game, so when I'm playing, I've got a house rule that it "counts" if one of the two vessels landed and re-orbited in the time since they were last docked.  If I've satisfied the contract otherwise, and I've done that, and the only reason it's not completing is the (IMHO) silly limitation about "has to have been from two launches", then I just go ahead and use the Alt+F12 cheat menu to complete the contract.  And I do so with a clear conscience.  :sticktongue:

Anyway, yeah, that's what's going on here.

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Interim report 2

 

On 4/27/2018 at 9:02 PM, Snark said:

Ding ding ding.  Yeah, it's frustrating, I know.

I assume they did this so that someone can't exploit it by launching a ship that just separates and immediately re-docks.  Forcing them to be from different launches certainly prevents that exploit.  However... seems to me that if you go to orbit, send a vehicle down to land, then bring it back up to orbit to re-dock, then that feels like it should count, gosh darn it.  And in any case, as a player, the part I found the most frustrating is that the contract didn't actually explicitly say "they have to be from two separate launches"-- it just says "two vessels".

Oh well.  I consider that to be a shortcoming in the game, so when I'm playing, I've got a house rule that it "counts" if one of the two vessels landed and re-orbited in the time since they were last docked.  If I've satisfied the contract otherwise, and I've done that, and the only reason it's not completing is the (IMHO) silly limitation about "has to have been from two launches", then I just go ahead and use the Alt+F12 cheat menu to complete the contract.  And I do so with a clear conscience.  :sticktongue:

Anyway, yeah, that's what's going on here.

I've done some additional research, and it turns out: 
1.  It is OK if the vessels have previously docked. 
2.  If they have previously docked, they must dock again within the Mun's SOI
3.  In my specific case, there was a PPD-10 in the middle that originally launched on one of the parts.  Its presence messed up the first re-dock attempt because I left it on the other part.  I don't know if having a piece of one part on the other part would prevent contract completion if it wasn't located at the junction, but either way separating them fully and then re-docking will work. 

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Interim Report 3: 
As the ship drew closer to its Minmus encounter, headquarters back home got a strange request:  FLOOYD Dynamics wanted me to "expand the station Abomination orbiter + Miner Mk.I" from six kerbals to eleven kerbals.  For this I would get the princely sum of 119 kilocredits. 

I've never turned down a contract yet, but this one is very tempting. 

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Final Interim Mission Report

I believe I have discovered an undocumented feature of "put a new station into orbit" contracts:  if the station in question is actually a ship with a Klaw, it cannot qualify while holding a piece of junk that another contract has put into space, even if that junk was created after the "new" requirement date. In my case I rendezvoused with one of my pilots (an onboard pilot being a requirement) after picking up two retrieval contract objects (one manned), but after he came on board the station did not qualify until I let go of both of the objects (the rescued kerbal was allowed to stay). 

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Extended Mission Report:  to Minmus and beyond?  Part 1

Many days later, our intrepid heroes were finally approaching Minmus.  They observed that the only thing to precede them, a satellite redirected from another mission after its extra delta-v was noticed, was still happily in polar orbit.  Perhaps something could be gained from a visit?  (I had a contract for "rendezvous" as opposed to dock at Minmus.)  

The Mun was desolate, but the landscape of Minmus seems even more alien despite its cheerful coloration.  

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20 1st miner deorbiting over Minmus with hood ornament (2j2z03r)

Meanwhile, plenty of science was to be had.  Can't transmit?  Whoops, time to unpack that antenna and dust off the dish.  We almost missed a maneuver node because the ship had just begun passing over the Great Flats a minute ago.  

Well, after the sciencing had died down a bit, the crew picked out a landing spot.  And not just any landing spot!  Inspired by the low gravity, Jeb had decided to avoid the trouble of ferrying fuel to the Rhino ship by bringing the Rhino ship right to the surface—still attached to the nose of the lander!  For this to have even a chance of working, Bill knew he had to find the most absolutely perfectly level spot he possibly could.  Fortunately, Minmus is full of them.  

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21 1st miner homing in on landing zone (zbryp)

On the approach, the crew aimed right for the middle of the cute little pond they'd found, but forgot that, unlike the Mun, Minmus rotates more than once a month.  They came down near the edge and had to spend a ridiculous amount of time (due to errors) repositioning and zeroing out sideways velocity again.  The only consolation was the hilarious wiggling of the Rhino in tune with the course corrections. 

Once this was achieved, it became obvious that as nice as the lake beds were for landing zones, there was one drawback, namely that aside from the ship's shadow the place was totally featureless.  I'd hate to do a night landing here!  

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22 1st miner making first ever landing on Minmus (os7uo2)

Everyone but Jeb had been concerned about how much weight the legs could handle, but they needn't have:  they were not only strong enough to hold up the weight of the ship, they were strong enough to catapult it right back off the ground!  Fortunately, the ship's pitiful* stockpile of RCS was full, because at least half of it was gone by the time the ship stopped doing jumping jacks.  Everyone breathed a sigh of relief and let the RCS keep burning to make aboslutely sure it had settled down.  

(*This ship was launched before I started packing larger reserves of monopropellant, so there was only the 30 in each command pod for 60 total.)

Without further ado, the mining rigs started pumping delicious mint-flavored ore.  The onboard scientist went out to manage the experiments much more carefully than usual.  Don't rock the boat!

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23 fueling up with mint ice cream (kcz0hl)

 

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8 hours ago, FinalFan said:

I'd hate to do a night landing here!  

 

Yeah, night landings on the flats are bad, the only helpful thing is that the flats are at 0 meters ASL.

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Extended Mission Report Part 2: 

When the sun set on my landing zone the Rhino's tanks were only half full, and the ship was unable to balance without SAS motors running (not that I could mine at night anyway, lacking fuel cells).  So the crew took off and tried to fulfill a storyline contract of rendezvousing with another vessel in Minmus orbit.  However, once again the contract failed to complete, only this time I'm pretty sure it's not my fault.  Oh, well.  We'll see if it fixes itself upon return to the KSC

After that, the crew decided to see if they could land a half-full monster attached to the lander's nose as well as a mostly-empty one.  Even Jeb was only 90% sure it would work, but everyone agreed that at worst the landing legs would explode and they could probably manage an emergency takeoff. 

In actuality, the landing was even smoother than the first one, probably due to the extra weight.  For added difficulty, the crew chose one of the two smallest ponds on Minmus, which interestingly enough were Flats and not Lesser Flats.  (Actually, I would have had to wait half a rotation for more flats to come into daylight if I missed this one.) 

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25 big fish in a small pond (24g6t4z)

 

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Extended Mission Report Part IV:  The Voyage Home 

After the vessel was fully fueled, the crew lifted off and discovered one complication no one had thought of:  despite Minmus's low gravity, that much fuel does actually add up to a heavy vessel.  As the ship ascended at less than 2m/s2, everyone had plenty of time to contemplate the fact that, technically, the three NERVs still granted a thrust-weight ratio of almost 3:1.  Gravity losses are not usually an issue on Minmus, but this was truly an expedition looking to break all the records.  Even so, the alternative of switching control and flipping over to use the Rhino was rejected due to the difficulty of pulling off the stunt mid-maneuver with a fully-laden vessel and very limited attitude control, and also the fact that the higher ISP of the NERVs was some compensation for the slow ascent.  However, the proposal to use the Rhino for the Kerbin transfer burn was universally accepted. 

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26 Leaving Minmus, using Rhino for quick burn (15x0lqv)



The Mk.I miner had served long and well on this mission—well enough to extend said mission from the Mun to Minmus.  But its days were numbered.  The decision to retire the Mk.I miner had been made for several reasons.  As a prototype, certain design decisions had proven suboptimal, chiefly, carrying LFO tanks with the idea of having "ready-to-go" refueling capability.  The design team had decided that extra ore tanks were a much more versatile way to store fuel, worth the time cost of refining on the spot for the recipient as well as the higher dry tank mass.  They were also more compact.  Speaking of extra fuel storage, there wasn't all that much on the Mk.I miner; it was okay at refueling itself, and it could perhaps refuel a probe or give an emergency supply, but it had no hope of ferrying large amounts of fuel to other things.  Aside from wrong turns in the design, there were also limitations and rough edges from the technological level at the time.  It had three-way symmetry not by choice but because quad adapter designs had not yet made it out of the engineering department—and its three-way adapter married a 2.5m part to a 1.25m connector for the same reason!  And lastly, a little bit of industrial espionage (tutorial designs and Youtube) had inspired a revolutionary new side-mounted engine design that made the Mk.0 fuel cans not worth the part count. 

Between all that, and the R&D department's desire to examine a ship that had actually been to Minmus and back, (and the storyline contract demanding the same,) the Mk.I miner was on a one-way trip to a museum.  Interestingly, though, the Rhino manned orbital stage that had been its faithful companion was not as completely obsolete and would remain in LKO for possible future use.  (It also had extra copies of science for science labs to potentially use.)

Farewell, Minmus, we hardly knew ye. 

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The crew had watched with interest as a flurry of activity took place down in LKO, but it cleared up well before their arrival.  The plan was to supplement a couple of aerobraking passes with burns near periapsis, because the combined mass of the lander and Rhino promised to make "free" deceleration take entirely too long.  There was some uncertainty about how well the NERVs would take to the combined heat of partial-reentry and extended burns, but they didn't complain a bit. 

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27 Dipping into Kerbin atmo for extra deceleration (20jr1qe)


(Not pictured:  things other than the NERVs overheating)

After a suitably low apoapsis was achieved, the periapsis was brought up to orbital height and the Rhino was detached one last time.  Then the periapsis was brought down to 37km and the final pass was here at last!  Unfortunately we were on the wrong side of the planet for a KSC landing, but everyone agreed that it wasn't worth waiting for a window to open up for attempting a KSC-adjacent recovery. 

... That was the plan.  But in the excitement to get home, the Rhino was detached before the re-orbit maneuver.  It was no problem as it had plenty of fuel and the crew was still on board (to be picked up later).  It turned out for the best, though, because the periapsis was at almost the perfect point for the re-entry deceleration to achieve a new suborbital path that would finally decay at around KSC.  Perhaps a burn to extend the re-entry and achieve the KSC landing was possible.  Turning the ship from retrograde to prograde at 45km and 2350ish m/s, however, needed more muscle than the ship turned out to have.  Seesawing the ship back and forth proved able to build up sufficient momentum to flip around and a burn was done based solely on guesswork.  Flipping back to retro was done (much more easily) at the new apoapsis of 50km, and then the crew waited anxiously to see how well they had anticipated the deceleration. 

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28 1st miner returning to KSP for R&D analysis (5n3apy)

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29 preparing to splash down near KSP (155ht0n)


...Oh, right.  The inclination hadn't been entirely zeroed out.  Still, other than being a touch too far north, this was right on the money. 

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30 1st miner splashed down (dy4q44)



All in all, this was proof positive that the "Extreme Training" program worked.  The B-team swam triumphantly home.  Now, let's go get Jeb, who was weeping tears of pride and joy from orbit.  (When you're that badass you don't feel the need to prop up your toughness by hiding emotions.) 

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P.S.  Science collected:  4,275.  Getting close to fully-unlocked.  (1,940 left in the tree)  Haven't left Kerbin SOI yet (though that will change soon) and with minimal use of science labs (300-500 science produced by them as a ballpark estimate). 

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On 5/27/2018 at 10:12 PM, FinalFan said:

P.S.  Science collected:  4,275.  Getting close to fully-unlocked.  (1,940 left in the tree)  Haven't left Kerbin SOI yet (though that will change soon) and with minimal use of science labs (300-500 science produced by them as a ballpark estimate). 

All very exciting @FinalFan!

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Extended Mission Report, Final Entry

The B-team may have returned to Kerbin first, but the A-team was going to do it in style.  Specifically, in the space program's first successful spaceplane, thankfully not actually named "Style".  It fishtailed like a maniac on the runway but settled down as soon as it got in the air.  

It was light enough for its two Rapiers to power it through the transsonic range without even really noticing, which was lucky, as the space program was to find out the next time it designed a spaceplane.  And it had an extremely simple flight profile:  go in a straight line with the same shallow climb until you need to switch to rocket mode, which was also lucky, because it later turned out that it was very easy to oversteer with it.  The elevons were probably overkill.  

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31 baby's first spaceplane - note lack of shock cones (fdulnc)

In addition to picking up our heroes, the mission was to drop off a bunch of extra crew members to get "experience" on the Minmus shakedown cruise.  It was also going to pick up a couple of tourists instead of dropping them down in a capsule as usual, which was why the docking port was necessary.  

In retrospect, spaceplanes that plan to dock probably ought to have RCS, but actually this design works pretty well too:  the pilot killed velocity close to the target, lined the ship up just right (the other one lined itself up as well), and swung the plane around its center of mass like a door on a hinge until the door "shut" on the two docking ports.  

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33 plane docking with next gen mining lander (os72x5)

It was quite a party up there, with four to seven ships depending how you counted and several hundred parts between them.  Lag was the guest of honor.  

Detachments, dropoffs, pickups, refuelings, and reattachments took a lot of time and care, but eventually the docking do-se-do concluded with only a couple of banged fenders (which Bill assured would "buff right out").  

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32 set the night on fire (121qujl)

The KSC was wrapped in darkness as the plane approached.  The reentry was too steep, and the plane also flipped out and flailed its way to below 5000 meters, but there was enough fuel to try again.  The lighter craft soon found itself going over 1400m/s with an apoasis over 30km!  This was more than enough to reach the KSC, and the plane gently circled around to the runway.

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34 gliding in to KSC (2eluyza)

However, once more the distance was underestimated, and the plane donated its NERVs to the front edge of the runway.  The glow will just be another runway light, right?  

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35 an almost perfect landing (dc9ezr)

Thus the mission ended in a similar way to how it had gone in general:  not perfectly, but fulfilling all mission parameters, and very much a learning experience in all stages of planning, design, and execution.  

Everyone agreed that they could hardly wait to get back out there. 

FINIS

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2 minutes ago, FinalFan said:

Thank you for all the support!  But when do you find time to sleep?

Soon, usually 11P.M-7A.M. That also tells you what time zone I'm in, considering that I will be sleeping in about 15 minutes. :)

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