tater Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 The track Berger mentions above is what Levi Cowen (tropical tidbits) suggested was the best case, since it will drag in dry air from the west, and weaken. He was saying as soon as it moves N of the southern tip of FL (mainland) it will continuously weaken. He said just N of Tampa, while still offshore it would be a strong Cat 2—weakening as it continues to move, and obviously weakening quickly when it make landfall, particularly if it hits the panhandle since more of the wind fields will be ashore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) Edited September 26, 2022 by RCgothic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 25 minutes ago, RCgothic said: As expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 This will be a nothingburger at the Cape. The bigger issue weather wise is if they predict bad weather to hang around til the weekend at the Cape—not dangerous weather, just junk that violates launch conditions (clouds, etc). Then they lose Oct 3, regardless, and have to roll back anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunlitZelkova Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 What is weather usually like in November at KSC? I’m curious about the likelihood of another scrub. Last time they tried to launch an SHLV in November (not counting Shuttle), it got struck by lightning twice. No Alan Bean onboard to save it this time around though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerwood Floyd Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, SunlitZelkova said: it got struck by lightning twice. No Alan Bean onboard to save it this time around though. SCE to AUX! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wumpus Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, tater said: This will be a nothingburger at the Cape. The bigger issue weather wise is if they predict bad weather to hang around til the weekend at the Cape—not dangerous weather, just junk that violates launch conditions (clouds, etc). Then they lose Oct 3, regardless, and have to roll back anyway. I think the bigger question is how they expect to get this thing in better condition than it is now. The SRBs were stacked relatively early and the "shelf life" is ticking. They already have issues with leaks and are going to roll this thing back and forth again. If they want to launch it, somebody is going to have to decide to light the candle, probably with less than perfect confidence of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 minute ago, wumpus said: I think the bigger question is how they expect to get this thing in better condition than it is now. The SRBs were stacked relatively early and the "shelf life" is ticking. They already have issues with leaks and are going to roll this thing back and forth again. If they want to launch it, somebody is going to have to decide to light the candle, probably with less than perfect confidence of success. They started stacking in November 2020. By March 2021 the SRBs were completely stacked. So they're pushing 2 years out of a 1 year certification. They had to get an engineering review to say they were OK already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 https://www.patrick.spaceforce.mil/Portals/14/Weather/Hurricane Ian_Advisory14.pdf?ver=y9_hsA1N5fVKSCd1BPZ0Pg%3d%3d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 7 hours ago, RCgothic said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeSchmuckatelli Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 The hits just a'keep on a'comin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, RCgothic said: As per eric berger, it happened in SLS's high bay. Electrical fire apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 hours ago, RCgothic said: It's never gonna launch is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuky Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I think now is maybe the time to scrap Artemis I and go straight to Artemis II... the amount of mishaps and bad luck with this vehicle is astonishing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Cuky said: I think now is maybe the time to scrap Artemis I and go straight to Artemis II... the amount of mishaps and bad luck with this vehicle is astonishing No point doing a manned mission if the damn rocket is so broken. Artemis at least does the moon landing in three missions instead of the 11 that Apollo did; but given the cost and amount of time between launches for SLS, that doesn't really mean anything. Still, they must do the unmanned demonstration before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) Quote At approximately 11:45pm today, a fire was reported in the Vehicle Assembly Building. Employees were evacuated I just hope they didn't took seriously the suggestion to find the hydrogen leak with cigarette smoke. On the other hand, it would mean that they read KSP forums. On another other hand, they still don't have the "No smoking" caption on both fluid tanks. So, who knows. Edited September 28, 2022 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 52 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: I just hope they didn't took seriously the suggestion to find the hydrogen leak with cigarette smoke. On the other hand, it would mean that they read KSP forums. On another other hand, they still don't have the "No smoking" caption on both fluid tanks. So, who knows. In another timeline... Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuky Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, intelliCom said: No point doing a manned mission if the damn rocket is so broken. Artemis at least does the moon landing in three missions instead of the 11 that Apollo did; but given the cost and amount of time between launches for SLS, that doesn't really mean anything. Still, they must do the unmanned demonstration before. I didn't explain myself well enough. I meant the Artemis II vehicle, not the Artemis II mission. Artemis I vehicle keeps popping up with problem after problem. I am not superstitious but am starting to think that it is cursed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Cuky said: I didn't explain myself well enough. I meant the Artemis II vehicle, not the Artemis II mission. Artemis I vehicle keeps popping up with problem after problem. I am not superstitious but am starting to think that it is cursed The two are practically the same vehicle, the only difference is the crew were risking by putting them on a flying coffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Cuky said: I didn't explain myself well enough. I meant the Artemis II vehicle, not the Artemis II mission. Artemis I vehicle keeps popping up with problem after problem. I am not superstitious but am starting to think that it is cursed Getting Artemis I's problems ironed out means Artemis II will likely (with no certainty) be more reliable at launching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 They should name the maiden flight vehicle Iphigenia and sacrifice her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 (edited) The predicted track of Ian currently goes within a whisker of the cape. Rollback definitely the right call. Edited September 28, 2022 by RCgothic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 49 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: They should name the maiden flight vehicle Iphigenia and sacrifice her. That would require a creative naming scheme. With a name like "Space Launch System" for the rocket, I wouldn't expect NASA to think creatively about names any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 The eye is currently directly over KSC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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