[1.3.1] Ferram Aerospace Research: v0.15.9.1 "Liepmann" 4/2/18

[ferram4]

@Tidus Klein: That's... really odd. I'll have to see what FAR is doing there, but it seems really wrong.

@smunisto & Lexif: I meant to remove them before I uploaded the update, but it slipped my mind. They'll be gone for the next version.

@rottielover & Renegade: I'd do something like that, but my voice is terrible and my GPU protests heavily when I try to record anything.

@Cpt. Kipard: Below high supersonic speeds (~Mach 3) it makes sense to do that; above that, the flat back end of the tank won't be much different aerodynamically from the cone + tank and the cone will add more mass, so it's not worth it.

[Renegrade]

@rottielover & Renegade: I'd do something like that, but my voice is terrible and my GPU protests heavily when I try to record anything.

Ditto - we were kinda hoping that one of the Youtube personalities like Mr. Manley or someone could do it

By the way, Cd has to be used with the reference area to determine the actual drag a ship encounters, right?

[sidfu]

is the fairing issue getting fixed also. im having issue where say i have a fairing everything is god when build it no errors but when load to launch the fairing has the parts sheilded but all other stuff like drag and such dont work and it fills log with error message. i checked both my ksp.log and output.log but ti doesnt say which part just kinda like a generic error. but as u eject the fairings the error ceases. it might be related the the decoupler problem .13 is having maybe

[GavinZac]

is the fairing issue getting fixed also. im having issue where say i have a fairing everything is god when build it no errors but when load to launch the fairing has the parts sheilded but all other stuff like drag and such dont work and it fills log with error message. i checked both my ksp.log and output.log but ti doesnt say which part just kinda like a generic error. but as u eject the fairings the error ceases. it might be related the the decoupler problem .13 is having maybe

Which fairings?

[Arrowmaster]

Which fairings?

For me it was the non existent fairings on the AIES engines. I just removed all the ModuleJettison's like ferram suggested and it all works fine now.

[sidfu]

ones i tested wshre procedrual fairings, the kw procediral fairings. im thinking it might be due to the decoupler ause with .13 when i took an dsay put a winglet on a decoupler far would go nuts and spew errors. im thinking its just that issue with the part being attached to a decoupler. the issue tho seems to be confined to wing parts and fairings. but if it throws that error normaly any part after that doesnt get regestred by far. for the fairings it doesnt show up till u lift off it wasnt when just siting on the launch pad.

to put it as a whole seems .13 is having issues with some parts when they attached to some form of decoupler. noraly wings and fairings. also had it happen on one design the fasa redstone launch clamp was causing it but it wouldnt do it with every design

well if he fixeing it it i can leave as is hate modifying .cfg only for it to be fixed soon.

[NathanKell]

Ferram: can you make the stats toggleable, rather than just removing them? (Apologies if they already are). I *really* like having them, it makes checking for streamlining (and for bugs) much easier.

The gear issue...FAR does that for Firespitter landing gear too. I added SurfaceArea=0.001 overrides for them. I think it's the old "look at the size of the object when animation=fully extended" thing that also was a problem with some NovaPunch parachutes.

Rottielover: I would love to hear that explanation (I'll give Dirt_Merchant a holler!) since I've been flying sims since before kindergarten (honest! Chuck Yeager's AFT on a Macintosh SE--Dad and I would try to take off in the SR-71 with a trackball and usually fail) and I still don't really grok those stats.

[not-a-cylon]

is it possible to have a negative lift coefficient or is something bugging out? it's the 1 meter airlock from the hollow structures and hulls. also, my ballistic coefficient is higher than I'm used to seeing. Did this change in the latest update?

edit: I'm noticing my KSPI fusion thermal turbojet SSTO aircraft performing better than normal... what changed?

Edited April 5, 2014 by not-a-cylon

[Erethron]

Are the KW rocketry interstage fairings (the ones where the fairing is attached to the decoupler, not to the engine) supposed to work with FAR? I think that was mentioned somewhere in this thread, but please forgive me if I misunderstood. When I put one of those around an atomic motor, the IsShielded property remains false and the engine still produces drag:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=245933975

Please note that I right-clicked the engine there, not the fairing itself. It is not that much drag in this example, but I plan to mount a couple of them upside down for one particular craft (don't ask ) and the drag from that is a total showstopper.

The test craft used for the screenshot above looks as follows:

ship = KWR FAR Test
version = 0.23.5
description = 
type = VAB
PART
{
	part = KW2mtankL1_4294345622
	partName = Part
	pos = -0.6979694,13.46503,0.04987429
	rot = 0,0,0,1
	attRot = 0,0,0,1
	mir = 1,1,1
	istg = 0
	dstg = 0
	sidx = -1
	sqor = -1
	attm = 0
	link = Mark1-2Pod_4294345590
	link = nuclearEngine_4294345448
	attN = top,Mark1-2Pod_4294345590
	attN = bottom,nuclearEngine_4294345448
	EVENTS
	{
	}
	ACTIONS
	{
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = FARBasicDragModel
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = LiquidFuel
		amount = 810
		maxAmount = 810
		flowState = True
		isTweakable = True
		hideFlow = False
		flowMode = Both
	}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = Oxidizer
		amount = 990
		maxAmount = 990
		flowState = True
		isTweakable = True
		hideFlow = False
		flowMode = Both
	}
}
PART
{
	part = Mark1-2Pod_4294345590
	partName = Part
	pos = -0.6979694,15.19427,0.04987429
	rot = 0,0,0,1
	attRot = 0,0,0,1
	mir = 1,1,1
	istg = 0
	dstg = 0
	sidx = -1
	sqor = -1
	attm = 0
	link = KW1mNoseCone_4294345480
	attN = bottom,KW2mtankL1_4294345622
	attN = top,KW1mNoseCone_4294345480
	EVENTS
	{
	}
	ACTIONS
	{
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleCommand
		isEnabled = True
		controlSrcStatusText = 
		EVENTS
		{
			MakeReference
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Control From Here
				guiName = Control From Here
				category = Control From Here
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
			RenameVessel
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Rename Vessel
				guiName = Rename Vessel
				category = Rename Vessel
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleSAS
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleReactionWheel
		isEnabled = True
		stateString = Active
		WheelState = Active
		EVENTS
		{
			OnToggle
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Toggle Torque
				guiName = Toggle Torque
				category = Toggle Torque
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
			Activate
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
			Deactivate
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
			Toggle
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleScienceExperiment
		isEnabled = True
		Deployed = False
		Inoperable = False
		EVENTS
		{
			DeployExperiment
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Deploy
				guiName = Deploy
				category = Deploy
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
			CollectDataExternalEvent
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = False
				guiIcon = 
				guiName = 
				category = 
				guiActiveUnfocused = True
				unfocusedRange = 1.5
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
			ReviewDataEvent
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Review Data
				guiName = Review Data
				category = Review Data
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
			ResetExperiment
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Reset
				guiName = Reset
				category = Reset
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
			ResetExperimentExternal
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = False
				guiIcon = Reset
				guiName = Reset
				category = Reset
				guiActiveUnfocused = True
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
			DeployAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
			ResetAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleScienceContainer
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
			StoreDataExternalEvent
			{
				active = False
				guiActive = False
				guiIcon = 
				guiName = Store Experiments (0)
				category = 
				guiActiveUnfocused = True
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
			CollectDataExternalEvent
			{
				active = False
				guiActive = False
				guiIcon = 
				guiName = Take Data (0)
				category = 
				guiActiveUnfocused = True
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
			ReviewDataEvent
			{
				active = False
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Review Data
				guiName = Review Stored Data (0)
				category = Review Data
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = FlagDecal
		isEnabled = True
		flagDisplayed = True
		EVENTS
		{
			ToggleFlag
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = False
				guiActiveEditor = True
				guiIcon = ToggleFlag
				guiName = ToggleFlag
				category = ToggleFlag
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleTripLogger
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
		Surfaced
		{
		}
		Flew
		{
		}
		FlewBy
		{
		}
		Orbited
		{
		}
		SubOrbited
		{
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = FARBasicDragModel
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = ElectricCharge
		amount = 150
		maxAmount = 150
		flowState = True
		isTweakable = True
		hideFlow = False
		flowMode = Both
	}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = MonoPropellant
		amount = 30
		maxAmount = 30
		flowState = True
		isTweakable = True
		hideFlow = False
		flowMode = Both
	}
}
PART
{
	part = KW1mNoseCone_4294345480
	partName = Strut
	pos = -0.6979694,16.38746,0.04987429
	rot = 0,0,0,1
	attRot = 0,0,0,1
	mir = 1,1,1
	istg = 0
	dstg = 0
	sidx = -1
	sqor = -1
	attm = 0
	attN = bottom,Mark1-2Pod_4294345590
	EVENTS
	{
	}
	ACTIONS
	{
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = FARBasicDragModel
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
}
PART
{
	part = nuclearEngine_4294345448
	partName = Part
	pos = -0.6979694,10.8112,0.04987429
	rot = 0,0,0,1
	attRot = 0,0,0,1
	mir = 1,1,1
	istg = 0
	dstg = 0
	sidx = 0
	sqor = 0
	attm = 0
	link = KW2mDecouplerShroud_4294345344
	attN = top,KW2mtankL1_4294345622
	attN = bottom,KW2mDecouplerShroud_4294345344
	EVENTS
	{
	}
	ACTIONS
	{
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleEngines
		isEnabled = True
		staged = False
		flameout = False
		EngineIgnited = False
		engineShutdown = False
		currentThrottle = 0
		thrustPercentage = 100
		manuallyOverridden = False
		thrustPercentage_UIFlight
		{
			controlEnabled = True
			minValue = 0
			maxValue = 100
			stepIncrement = 0.5
		}
		EVENTS
		{
			Activate
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Activate Engine
				guiName = Activate Engine
				category = Activate Engine
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
			Shutdown
			{
				active = False
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Shutdown Engine
				guiName = Shutdown Engine
				category = Shutdown Engine
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
			OnAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
			ShutdownAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
			ActivateAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleJettison
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
			Jettison
			{
				active = False
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Jettison
				guiName = Jettison
				category = Jettison
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
			JettisonAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleJettison
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
			Jettison
			{
				active = False
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Jettison
				guiName = Jettison
				category = Jettison
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
			JettisonAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleGimbal
		isEnabled = True
		gimbalLock = False
		EVENTS
		{
			LockGimbal
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = True
				guiActiveEditor = True
				guiIcon = Lock Gimbal
				guiName = Lock Gimbal
				category = Lock Gimbal
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
			FreeGimbal
			{
				active = False
				guiActive = True
				guiActiveEditor = True
				guiIcon = Free Gimbal
				guiName = Free Gimbal
				category = Free Gimbal
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
			ToggleAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleAnimateHeat
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleAlternator
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = FARBasicDragModel
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = ElectricCharge
		amount = 0
		maxAmount = 0
		flowState = True
		isTweakable = False
		hideFlow = True
		flowMode = Both
	}
}
PART
{
	part = KW2mDecouplerShroud_4294345344
	partName = Part
	pos = -0.6979694,8.70799,0.04987429
	rot = 0,0,0,1
	attRot = 0,0,0,1
	mir = 1,1,1
	istg = 1
	dstg = 1
	sidx = 0
	sqor = 1
	attm = 0
	link = KW2mtankL1_4294345300
	attN = bottom,KW2mtankL1_4294345300
	attN = top,nuclearEngine_4294345448
	EVENTS
	{
	}
	ACTIONS
	{
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleDecouple
		isEnabled = True
		isDecoupled = False
		EVENTS
		{
			Decouple
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Decouple
				guiName = Decouple
				category = Decouple
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
			DecoupleAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = FARBasicDragModel
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
}
PART
{
	part = KW2mtankL1_4294345300
	partName = Part
	pos = -0.6979694,7.45799,0.04987429
	rot = 0,0,0,1
	attRot = 0,0,0,1
	mir = 1,1,1
	istg = 2
	dstg = 2
	sidx = -1
	sqor = -1
	attm = 0
	link = KW2mengineGriffonG8D_4294345268
	attN = top,KW2mDecouplerShroud_4294345344
	attN = bottom,KW2mengineGriffonG8D_4294345268
	EVENTS
	{
	}
	ACTIONS
	{
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = FARBasicDragModel
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = LiquidFuel
		amount = 810
		maxAmount = 810
		flowState = True
		isTweakable = True
		hideFlow = False
		flowMode = Both
	}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = Oxidizer
		amount = 990
		maxAmount = 990
		flowState = True
		isTweakable = True
		hideFlow = False
		flowMode = Both
	}
}
PART
{
	part = KW2mengineGriffonG8D_4294345268
	partName = Part
	pos = -0.6979694,4.95799,0.04987429
	rot = 0,0,0,1
	attRot = 0,0,0,1
	mir = 1,1,1
	istg = 2
	dstg = 2
	sidx = -1
	sqor = -1
	attm = 0
	attN = top,KW2mtankL1_4294345300
	EVENTS
	{
	}
	ACTIONS
	{
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleEngines
		isEnabled = True
		staged = False
		flameout = False
		EngineIgnited = False
		engineShutdown = False
		currentThrottle = 0
		thrustPercentage = 100
		manuallyOverridden = False
		thrustPercentage_UIFlight
		{
			controlEnabled = True
			minValue = 0
			maxValue = 100
			stepIncrement = 0.5
		}
		EVENTS
		{
			Activate
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Activate Engine
				guiName = Activate Engine
				category = Activate Engine
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
			Shutdown
			{
				active = False
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Shutdown Engine
				guiName = Shutdown Engine
				category = Shutdown Engine
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
			OnAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
			ShutdownAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
			ActivateAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleGimbal
		isEnabled = True
		gimbalLock = False
		EVENTS
		{
			LockGimbal
			{
				active = True
				guiActive = True
				guiActiveEditor = True
				guiIcon = Lock Gimbal
				guiName = Lock Gimbal
				category = Lock Gimbal
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
			FreeGimbal
			{
				active = False
				guiActive = True
				guiActiveEditor = True
				guiIcon = Free Gimbal
				guiName = Free Gimbal
				category = Free Gimbal
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
			ToggleAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleAnimateHeat
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleAlternator
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = ModuleJettison
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
			Jettison
			{
				active = False
				guiActive = True
				guiIcon = Jettison
				guiName = Jettison
				category = Jettison
				guiActiveUnfocused = False
				unfocusedRange = 2
				externalToEVAOnly = True
			}
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
			JettisonAction
			{
				actionGroup = None
			}
		}
	}
	MODULE
	{
		name = FARBasicDragModel
		isEnabled = True
		EVENTS
		{
		}
		ACTIONS
		{
		}
	}
	RESOURCE
	{
		name = ElectricCharge
		amount = 0
		maxAmount = 0
		flowState = True
		isTweakable = False
		hideFlow = True
		flowMode = Both
	}
}

[ferram4]

@sidfu: It sounds like you're talking about multiple issues there. For one, I know that there are no issues with any of the payload fairings at all; "fairing" issues are limited to mod parts with improperly set up ModuleJettisons. You'll need to be more explicit about the other issues, and try to be clearer; all I'm getting from you is that you have an issue, but not how to reproduce it, what parts are involved, if it includes stock parts or if it's mod parts only, all of which means that I can't fix it.

@not-a-cylon: Sure, why not? If you're measuring lift relative to one axis and the force actually goes in the other direction, why wouldn't it be negative?

The reason things appear to be doing better is that I removed the artificial extra drag at the back of vehicles and that I redid the drag code to be more accurate; it was calculating using parabolic variation of cross-sections when it should have been conic variation.

[CaptainKipard]

How would FAR react to real airfoils like these.

If I modeled them would that make things better? Also is it the mesh collider that FAR uses for it's calculations?

[Spanier]

The new patch nearly breaks all my unwinged rockets, they become uncontrollable and MechJeb totally freaks out. It seems like, the gimbal of the engines is now less effective.

EDIT:

Seems like increasing the gimbal range solves the problem (hail to TweakableEverything )

Edited April 5, 2014 by Spanier

[ferram4]

@Erethron: They technically should, but are called interstages and not fairings, so FAR doesn't detect them. Either change the part title to include "fairing" or change the config.xml to include "interstage" in the fairing search.

@Cpt. Kipard: FAR won't care about that at all. FAR models wings without caring about the airfoil too much, since for thin airfoils (used for all supersonic applications) all behave about the same way below the stall angle, which FAR uses an approximate value for. Don't bother building the airfoil in, it will just make your wing look worse.

FAR uses the mesh as a whole for detecting drag properties of non-wing parts. Wings need their parameters specially defined in the config for them to work; see B9 parts or the FAR config for examples.

@Spanier: Your rockets were probably barely controllable and were overspeeding. I honestly don't see where all these control complaints come from; I'm launching all sorts of mad things and I have complete control over the rocket at all times.

[AndreyATGB]

I like 0.13, seems drag is even more realistic to me. My planes now generally don't slow down beyond 170m/s unless I hover for at least 1-2km before attempting to land. Rockets without fins have always been uncontrollable, I don't know what your problem is here.

[Dewar]

Request: Someone with some YouTube skills please work with Ferram to create the "how to" video of rocket design and launch under FAR?

Reason: All the best tips and tricks are spread out over 300 pages of forum post "wall of text". With the release of .13, I too had some designs that were no longer working, but based on ferram's notes I kinda expected to have some issues. But I'm still not 100% sure what I'm actually doing right and wrong.

Bonus points for explaining the flight data dialogue box, like what is "Q", why it's important, and what it's trying to tell me about my crappy rocket design.

I suspect this might be a series in itself.

Hey guys,love Squad and Ferram (first post!)

I like the idea of creating a tutorial series for this mod, Manley's videos were a great help for some of the basics and he does breeze over some of the main features of the VAB Utilities, but it's not very expansive.

I'm happy to help out if I needed. I do a lot of voice recording but I have "the great firewall of China" to deal with so uploading to YouTube is a a no-go for me. I could send the audio files if someone were to create the script for use in a series though.

Or someone could just tell Manley to make one, he is Scottish after all.

[Dirt_Merchant]

Hey guys,love Squad and Ferram (first post!)

I like the idea of creating a tutorial series for this mod, Manley's videos were a great help for some of the basics and he does breeze over some of the main features of the VAB Utilities, but it's not very expansive.

I'm happy to help out if I needed. I do a lot of voice recording but I have "the great firewall of China" to deal with so uploading to YouTube is a a no-go for me. I could send the audio files if someone were to create the script for use in a series though.

Or someone could just tell Manley to make one, he is Scottish after all.

I'll go ahead and toss my hat in the ring here, I am willing to help work on a series like this, or indeed just make one outright. My estimated time-frame to release would be two weeks from today, allowing for my other commitments. Though the lessons I've in mind are certainly solid, my Voice isn't what some might call audible-chocolate like Manley's. If someone would like to check my work I'd certainly appreciate it, as the youtube scrutiny will be rather high once the series is posted, and though I trust my knowledge, its always possible for things to slip through the cracks. I'd be willing to collaborate with a team as well, and seeing so much aircraft building talent on this thread I'd be remiss to exclude you guys from this project. Shoot me a pm if you guys would like to get involved!

Edit: Will be postponing any production until the official release of the next update.

Edited April 10, 2014 by Dirt_Merchant

[sidfu]

here the part .cfg for 2 of the parts. on my designs when have thesed on the faring when sitting n the launch pad would show far details even says parts inside are sheilded but has 0 lift drang and all that. sitting on the launch pad there no errors but when u launch errors sem to start when u start to pick up speed. these dont have module jettsions on them.

PART
{
name = KwProcFairingBase1_25
module = Part
author = KWrocketry

MODEL
{
  model = blackheart/ProceduralFairings/KW_Fairing_Base
  scale = 1.15, 1.15, 1.15
}

scale = 1
rescaleFactor = 0.75

// definition format is Position X, Position Y, Position Z, Up X, Up Y, Up Z
node_stack_bottom = 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0
node_stack_top = 0.0, 0.575, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0
node_stack_connect01 = -0.625, 0.115, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 0
node_stack_connect02 =  0.625, 0.115, 0.0, 0.0, 1.0, 0.0, 0

stackSymmetry = 1

TechRequired = stability
cost = 400
category = Aero
subcategory = 0
title = KW Custom fairings base 1.25m
manufacturer = KW-Keramzit Collab
description = The ultimate fairings for small rockets, customly crafted for you payload by Keramzit's engineers!
attachRules = 1,0,1,1,0

// --- standard part parameters ---
mass = 0.1
dragModelType = default
maximum_drag = 0.2
minimum_drag = 0.2
angularDrag = 1
crashTolerance = 12
maxTemp = 3600
explosionPotential = 0
fuelCrossFeed = False

breakingForce = 2000
breakingTorque = 2000

MODULE
{
    name = ModuleDecouple
    ejectionForce = 250
	explosiveNodeID = top
}


MODULE
{
  name = ProceduralFairingBase
  baseSize=1.15
  sideThickness=0.05
  verticalStep=0.2
  extraRadius=0.2

  outlineSlices=12
  outlineColor=0, 0, 0.2, 1
  //extraRadiusKey=r
}
}

PART
{
name = KzProcFairingAtlas
module = Part
author = e-dog

MODEL
{
  model = blackheart/ProceduralFairings/AtlasFairing/Fairing_1
}

//scale = 1
rescaleFactor = 1

node_stack_connect = 0, 0.5, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0

TechRequired = stability
cost = 400
category = Aero
subcategory = 0
title = Atlas Procedural Fairing
manufacturer = Keramzit Engineering
description = These fairings are made from the finest materials found in the fields around the Space Center. Cone-shaped version.

attachRules = 1,0,0,1,1

mass = 0.1
dragModelType = default
maximum_drag = 0.1
minimum_drag = 0.1
angularDrag = 1
crashTolerance = 8
breakingForce = 200
breakingTorque = 200
maxTemp = 3600
fuelCrossFeed = False

stagingIcon = DECOUPLER_HOR

stageOffset = 1
childStageOffset = 1

MODULE
{
  name = ProceduralFairingSide

  density=0.1
  specificBreakingForce =2000
  specificBreakingTorque=2000

  noseHeightRatio=3.5
  baseConeShape=0.1, 1.0, 0, 0.7
  noseConeShape=0.1, 0, 0.7, 0.667
  baseConeSegments=3
  noseConeSegments=11

  mappingScale=1024, 1024
  stripMapping=992, 1024
  horMapping=10, 490, 500, 980
  vertMapping=10, 170, 694, 1014
}

MODULE
{
  name = ProceduralFairingDecoupler
}

}

[White Owl]

Much as I love this mod, I have to report a bug.

Last night I was reentering my spaceplane. I selected the EAS display, but no EAS was displayed above the navball. I had orbital speed or surface speed like in stock, and mach number in the FAR window. Made for a kinda tense reentry and landing without an airspeed indicator.

Using the latest release. No other bugs I noticed.

Edit: just checked, no EAS displayed when starting a new flight on the runway.

Edited April 5, 2014 by White Owl

[Dirt_Merchant]

Much as I love this mod, I have to report a bug.

Last night I was reentering my spaceplane. I selected the EAS display, but no EAS was displayed above the navball. I had orbital speed or surface speed like in stock, and mach number in the FAR window. Made for a kinda tense reentry and landing without an airspeed indicator.

Using the latest release. No other bugs I noticed.

Edit: just checked, no EAS displayed when starting a new flight on the runway.

I can confirm this.

[Starstrider42]

Is there a way to disable the new readouts of Cl, Cd, and Cm that show up in the right-click menus? I have a small screen, and the new display makes right-click menus almost unusable because some buttons will fall off the edge of the screen or get stuck behind other GUI elements, no matter how I turn and twist the camera.

Edited April 6, 2014 by Starstrider42

[NathanKell]

White Owl. Dirt Merchant: apparently that has to be moved to LateUpdate now; see the thread by lttito in dev (and the result on this forum: KTAS finally!)

[White Owl]

White Owl. Dirt Merchant: apparently that has to be moved to LateUpdate now; see the thread by lttito in dev (and the result on this forum: KTAS finally!)

I appreciate you're trying to help... "has to be moved to LateUpdate now" doesn't really mean anything to me. "See the thread by lttito in dev"... hmm. I look at the Add-on Development forum for a thread started by lttito, and I don't find one. KTAS I know as Knots True AirSpeed, but I don't see anything about that in this forum.

What are you trying to tell me?

[NathanKell]

Ah, sorry. What I mean is that in .23.5, the stock KSP method that writes to the Navball executes after Ferram's, so his value is clobbered (and thus never shows). As a fix, if you write to the navball textbox via the LateUpdate() method, it won't be clobbered.

Thread is here: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/75308-0-23-5-Speed-Unit-Changer-Simple-plugin-to-visualize-speed-in-different-units

Dev thread (discussing the fix) is here: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/74918-Not-possible-to-write-on-GUI-Elements-%280-23-5%29?p=1068081#post1068081

Uh...to be clear, this has to be a fix implemented in source and recompiled, so you might want to wait for Ferram to do it if you don't want to (edit and) compile from source yourself.

[White Owl]

All much clearer! LOL

For the time being, we can just fly without an EAS indication.

[Mystique]

Is it possible to disable showind Cd, Cl and other stuff for every part in right-click menu?