sevenperforce Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 40 minutes ago, RCgothic said: Almost certainly the Ingenuity drone will be followed up by larger and more capable vehicles now that the technology has been proven. But it might be a while before designs are converted into hardware on the moon. I don't anticipate any quadcopters on the moon. The challenge for making a bigger Ingenuity is going to be power. Ingenuity uses its solar cells to recharge its battery, but it depends on its battery for its hops. It can do about 90 seconds but you'd need more than 90 seconds of flight time on a larger version. Adding more batteries is going to add more weight which is a vicious cycle for something operating so close to the limit of...well, everything. The air really isn't dense enough to do anything with a Coanda effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Perseverance-2 with four extendable trusses with propellers. The Persicopter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dfthu Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) Image from Ingenuity while in flight Edited April 27, 2021 by Dfthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philae_Rosetta2021 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Great picture. Wishing Ingenuity all the best for future flights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Perseverance upper left from Ingenuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted April 28, 2021 Author Share Posted April 28, 2021 Very pretty! This is the sort of picture I was looking forward to from Ingenuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXBLOX Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 16 hours ago, tater said: [...] Beautiful! I can't wait to see more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfthu Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) More video from the 3rd flight. Can see it move Perseverance Rover's Mastcam-Z Captures Ingenuity's Third Flight – NASA's InSight Mars Lander Edited April 28, 2021 by Dfthu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfthu Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 About Ingenuity's 4th flight With Goals Met, NASA to Push Envelope With Ingenuity Mars Helicopter "Flight Four sets out to demonstrate the potential value of that aerial perspective. The flight test will begin with Ingenuity climbing to an altitude of 16 feet (5 meters) and then heading south, flying over rocks, sand ripples, and small impact craters for 276 feet (84 meters). As it flies, the rotorcraft will use its downward-looking navigation camera to collect images of the surface every 4 feet (1.2 meters) from that point until it travels a total of 436 feet (133 meters) downrange. Then, Ingenuity will go into a hover and take images with its color camera before heading back to Wright Brothers Field." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Genie is on strike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeSchmuckatelli Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I'm going to place this here, even though it is not specific to Percy (although the offending article mentions "Rovers"). It does, however, relate to Mars and part of this Mission's purpose. No, NASA photos are not evidence of fungus growing on Mars, sorry - CNET I want to also state for the record that this in no way implies criticism of our forum member who linked to the original, apparently peer-reviewed article, in a different thread. The interesting thing for me is this author's critique of that particular journal - which from outward appearance seems legit; however its been accused of predatory practices and reprinting without permission. Frankly, I'd be suspicious of anything published by that rag-house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Ok, they aren't fungi. But can we eat them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 We've seen frost build up overnight and sublimate in the morning, you might be able to scrape that up off a rock and eat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: Ok, they aren't fungi. But can we eat them? Ask a pregnant lady. (Pica joke) 2 minutes ago, cubinator said: We've seen frost build up overnight and sublimate in the morning, you might be able to scrape that up off a rock and eat it. Wouldn't that make your mouth foggy? (dry ice quip) Edited May 7, 2021 by JoeSchmuckatelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: Wouldn't that make your mouth foggy? (dry ice quip) On Earth that's used for artisanal desserts. On Mars it's a simple fact of life. But the ice is actually mostly water, so maybe it'd be more like Pop Rocks (candies that fizzle with dissolved CO2 in your mouth) I would never drink the groundwater without proper purification, but if the precipitation is anything like Earth's then I might feel safe licking up some frost if it didn't have any dust or sand in it. Edited May 7, 2021 by cubinator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) Have you forgotten the Charm of Making? Edited May 7, 2021 by JoeSchmuckatelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, cubinator said: I would never drink the groundwater without proper purification They pay money for that. It's a mineral water. Whole spas exist thanks to it. Spoiler What if it's the first Martian spa. Edited May 7, 2021 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted May 7, 2021 Author Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, kerbiloid said: What if it's the first Martian spa. So many Martian "minerals" are actual poison. I want them out of my water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) On 4/22/2021 at 9:28 PM, RCgothic said: Almost certainly the Ingenuity drone will be followed up by larger and more capable vehicles now that the technology has been proven. But it might be a while before designs are converted into hardware on the moon. Hold your horses, there is no air on the Moon XD On 4/22/2021 at 10:14 PM, sevenperforce said: The challenge for making a bigger Ingenuity is going to be power. Ingenuity uses its solar cells to recharge its battery, but it depends on its battery for its hops. It can do about 90 seconds but you'd need more than 90 seconds of flight time on a larger version. Adding more batteries is going to add more weight which is a vicious cycle for something operating so close to the limit of...well, everything. The air really isn't dense enough to do anything with a Coanda effect. Could we make rocket-powered tipjet rotor ? Fuel should be methalox... 43 minutes ago, cubinator said: So many Martian "minerals" are actual poison. I want them out of my water. In the past people liked lead pipes and lead jars because the water tasted sweeter though... Edited May 7, 2021 by YNM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 1 hour ago, YNM said: In the past people liked lead pipes and lead jars because the water tasted sweeter though Shudder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 4:14 PM, sevenperforce said: I don't anticipate any quadcopters on the moon. 3 hours ago, YNM said: Hold your horses, there is no air on the Moon XD Doh! I meant Mars of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfthu Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Sound from Ingenuity was captured NASA's Perseverance Captures Video, Audio of Fourth Ingenuity Flight – NASA’s Mars Exploration Program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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