JoeSchmuckatelli Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Serenity said: then we probably would have reached a point that we don't need 'rare'' resource deposits. If we ever reach the point we don't need resource deposits - then there won't be a need for us to do anything. Grin For the sake of argument - I'll agree that it is unlikely to make economic sense to bring raw materials back here from space for production... but there is a sufficient excess of untapped, likely easily extracted ores (engineering challenge) that can be used for space-based manufacturing - most of which will likely be used in expanding space-based economies. But some of the stuff thus created will make its way planetside. Perhaps my unborn grand children's grandchildren will get to see a future with humanity in space in numbers. As it is, I'd be thrilled to see 1,000 people regularly off world for various reasons within the next 50 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kerbiloid Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, southernplain said: Shockingly, people like to wear nice clothes and have nice things. This is a human universal across all time periods and cultures. Yes. Spoiler The kind of people who would definitely maintain a Martian colony, if you find a technological compromise, Ideal colonists from any pov. Some problem would be with Martian rovers. They would need horsuits. Spoiler Edited June 10, 2021 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: Yes. Reveal hidden contents The kind of people who would definitely maintain a Martian colony, if you find a technological compromise, Ideal colonists from any pov. Some problem would be with Martian rovers. They would need horsuits. Reveal hidden contents Just need to alt+f12 and cheat them to a low Martian orbit with a heat shield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Beccab said: Just need to alt+f12 and cheat them to a low Martian orbit with a heat shield Launch - yours, colony - theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: If we ever reach the point we don't need resource deposits - then there won't be a need for us to do anything. I said ''rare'', we will still need to harvest resources but we will be able to use the most common ones, like water and process them depending what we need. 10 hours ago, JoeSchmuckatelli said: Perhaps my unborn grand children's grandchildren will get to see a future with humanity in space in numbers. As it is, I'd be thrilled to see 1,000 people regularly off world for various reasons within the next 50 years. I really hope so as well but i think space will be filled with robots and automated factories supervised by maybe 50-100 people at a time and maybe not even all the time, just for service visits or difficult repairs. Edited June 10, 2021 by Serenity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) Offtopic. Just thought. As I read in wiki among those guys in standard suits the name "Jebediah" is popular. It's a sign. Edited June 11, 2021 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernplain Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 10:28 PM, kerbiloid said: Yes. The kind of people who would definitely maintain a Martian colony, if you find a technological compromise, Ideal colonists from any pov. Some problem would be with Martian rovers. They would need horsuits. Not sure if you are joking, but the Amish rather prove my point. Plainness is a cultural virtue, but shoddy materials are not. Their clothing might look unadorned to you or I, but that does not mean it is not nice. Despite their apparent plainness, they still enjoy fine things, like finely crafted furniture. The technology thing is a bit of a thorny problem for the Amish to Mars scenario, but I think it is quite likely there are splinter religious groups in the world that would like to get off planet so they could do their thing undisturbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, southernplain said: Not sure if you are joking, Both. Discipline, diligence, accuracy, habit of unification, habit of simplicity - are what the Martian colony requires. 9 minutes ago, southernplain said: The technology thing is a bit of a thorny problem for the Amish to Mars scenario, As simple as possible. The "possible" may vary. On Earth it's a plowland and a horse, on Mars it's a pressurized greenhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 33 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: Both. Discipline, diligence, accuracy, habit of unification, habit of simplicity - are what the Martian colony requires. As simple as possible. The "possible" may vary. On Earth it's a plowland and a horse, on Mars it's a pressurized greenhouse. A greenhouse with Martian horses… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, StrandedonEarth said: A greenhouse with Martian horses… Cockroaches and isopods to till the fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, cubinator said: Cockroaches and isopods to till the fields. Not crickets? Oh right, too small/weak? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleshJeb Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, StrandedonEarth said: Not crickets? Oh right, too small/weak? Lol Thoats and Zitidars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, FleshJeb said: Thoats and Zitidars Scarabs? Oh wait, duh, kill two avians with one lithoid: dung beetles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 (edited) Scarab. A Martian rover must look like a scarab. It moves slowly and doesn't need wheels. On the other hand, it can use a pair of solar panels on top and a pair of protective covers. Like wings. Maybe even as wings. Also it could roll Martian stones. Rolling stones. Retractable sensors like the scarab antennas. Jaws to grab the ground for analysis. Also its hemispherical shape is very good during the dust storms. Streamlined and holding no dust on top. Edited June 12, 2021 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 The 9th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 The Xth, and the first mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 The technological marvel of flying a drone on Mars is amazing. However - I'm more interested in what they are discovering about the planet where is the carbonate nodule analysis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 They study the Martian anti-aircraft defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 ...and found it lacking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 The 12 m altitude is almost a stratosphere on Mars, based on the pressure. So, they are testing a stratospheric recon drone and its optical tracking from the mobile on-ground platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Looks like the KSP Art Department took a little field trip: NASA rover spots 'whimsical' rock arch on Mars that's defying wind, dust (msn.com) (Okay, yeah, I know it's not Percy... but c'mon!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Also - in case y'all missed this: NASA finally knows what is beneath the surface of Mars (inverse.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmuckatelli Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Seems Percy is having a bit of difficulty gathering samples. https://www.foxnews.com/science/nasas-perseverance-mars-rover-runs-into-puzzling-sampling-conundrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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