ra4nd0m Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Wow it seems that third torch from that poll is finally makes its way into the game. Amazing! But can someone please explain me why is it using a magnetic confinement nozzle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceFace545 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 2:05 PM, ra4nd0m said: Wow it seems that third torch from that poll is finally makes its way into the game. Amazing! But can someone please explain me why is it using a magnetic confinement nozzle? Expand Because the exhaust is too hot and would melt a traditional nozzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angstinator Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 At some point you just can't use normal materials to confine a continuous nuclear explosion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakete Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 2:47 PM, Angstinator said: At some point you just can't use normal materials to confine a continuous nuclear explosion. Expand What are "normal" materials? Are they orthogonal on another surface? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Chimp Event Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I came across a weird issue after installing where the following engines can't be placed and flicker when picked up in the builder, and game shows a null reference exception. A-134NG A-7007 JP-10 K-8 X-20 Can anyone think off the top of their head what might cause this? I can provide more info if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ra4nd0m Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 2:12 PM, SpaceFace545 said: Because the exhaust is too hot and would melt a traditional nozzle. Expand Yeah i know that. I just forgot that we essentially dealing with plasma at this point so it can be controlled with magnets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nertea Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 6:39 PM, Random Chimp Event said: I came across a weird issue after installing where the following engines can't be placed and flicker when picked up in the builder, and game shows a null reference exception. A-134NG A-7007 JP-10 K-8 X-20 Can anyone think off the top of their head what might cause this? I can provide more info if needed. Expand More info is certainly needed, but first please verify the presence of all the mod's files and dependencies. On 8/19/2021 at 6:28 AM, Rakete said: Looks great. Vacuum-only engine or a lifter-viable-thingy ? Really looking forward to. It looks so amazing! Is it a big bad boy version of the Heinlein, a nuclear salt water engine, as you said "like of the rest of the fission engines"? Since it seems to burn continously, i'd guess it's something like that? Expand It currently has a pretty ridiculous 3.8MN of thrust and 120,000s of specific impulse to 'balance' it against the other torches, which is 'probably accurate' to some kind of 50% enriched fuel. It's viable to use in atmo (at half thrust at sea level), but with 50 MW of heat production it is going to require some interesting radiator design decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakete Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) On 8/19/2021 at 9:07 PM, Nertea said: but with 50 MW of heat production it is going to require some interesting radiator design decisions. Expand 50 MW? Holy Cow... that's a tough beast. Think this will require some spamming of coolant tanks and not-so-aerodymanically optimized but robust grey radiators. Maybe some nice curved wrap-around graphene radiators (in SH) for aerodynamic optimized vehicles in a ruggedized version would find some customers/buyers. Think you gonna build up a market request on for this kind of part. That's how business works. Creating a market request and satisfying it. Jokes aside: Really looking forward to playing around with this beast. Think, some kerbals want to ride this hot dragon. Edited August 19, 2021 by Rakete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Chimp Event Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 9:16 PM, Rakete said: Think, some kerbals want to ride this hot dragon. Expand Really sus choice of wording Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakete Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) Mhh? Meant as a analogon (hot, as of 50MW waste heat and dragon as it really spits a hot breath according to Nerteas Screenshots of the plume). But I'm not a native speaker. Have i overlooked a pun? Edited August 19, 2021 by Rakete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Chimp Event Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Anyways, reinstalling the whole zip fixed those parts somehow. Doesn't seem like there's a problem anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danfarnsy Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 9:20 PM, Rakete said: Mhh? Meant as a analogon (hot, as of 50MW waste heat and dragon as it really spits a hot breath according to Nerteas Screenshots of the plume). But I'm not a native speaker. Have i overlooked a pun? Expand For some people, everything is a euphemism for something dirty. Which can be really funny, but you didn't say anything wrong at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geraldardy Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 The thrust seems to be really low on these engines, for example the A-134NG only generates 420kN of thrust in a vacuum. I have the same problem with your NFT mod where the largest magnetoplasmadynamic engine only generates 47kN of thrust. It's not a conflict with another mod because I tested it on a clean install of KSP. Am I doing something wrong or is this expected behavior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ra4nd0m Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 9:07 PM, Nertea said: but with 50 MW of heat production Expand Oh it seems we do need new aerodynamic radiators at all. Switchable triangle shaped radiators help but not enough. I wonder is there a possibility of a part that converts current air flow into cooling capacity so we can get additional cooling while in the atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakete Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) On 8/20/2021 at 10:32 AM, ra4nd0m said: h it seems we do need new aerodynamic radiators at all. Switchable triangle shaped radiators help but not enough Expand Yeah, and Nertea stated, that those are not made for take-off - too fragile. So there is a real gap in the SH radiators. But I don‘t worry. I am almost sure, that SH will upgraded by Nertea at some point in future to fill that hole in the radiator line-up. … (if he still likes to do modding then...) Edited August 20, 2021 by Rakete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceFace545 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 12:41 PM, Rakete said: Yeah, and Nertea stated, that those are not made for take-off - too fragile. So there is a real gap in the SH radiators. But I don‘t worry. I am almost sure, that SH will upgraded by Nertea at some point in future to fill that hole in the radiator line-up. … Expand I think that’s the general plan as well. I do believe that a radiator revamp will come next after nertea had his break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nertea Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 I mean, just because you can doesn't mean you should, really ;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDSlice Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 4:20 PM, Nertea said: I mean, just because you can doesn't mean you should, really ;). Expand What, you mean running an engine that dumps 50MW of waste heat and has exhaust that is essentially a continuous nuclear explosion and is so hot and energetic that you have to use magnetic confinement to keep it from melting itself may not be the best thing to run in an atmosphere or on your launch pad? Who could have guessed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakete Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) On 8/20/2021 at 5:24 PM, CDSlice said: may not be the best thing to run in an atmosphere or on your launch pad? Who could have guessed? Expand Maybe not kerbin as radiation sickness for the poor Kerbals is no option.... but places like Tylo or Eve?! If no kerbal is left behind, you can contaminate whatever you want. Tylo is just a big rock. I'm still figuring about a visually pleasing Eve ascender. All I could do in the past with the stock stuff was functional, but... ugly.... very very very ugly... so maybe the actual or upcomming FFT-Engines have an option for something compact for Eve ascent. Edited August 20, 2021 by Rakete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakete Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) @Nertea Improvement Idea for next release: Is it possible to make the info how many EC the FFT Engines/Reactors need to charge up available in the part info, so that we can tailor the amount of batteries/Capacitors to enable charging? E.g. it could be a nice idea to have the energy to start the fusion reactor as back-up in tailored capacitorbanks, even if the batteries are low. Or have a set of disabled back-up batteries, that contain the needed amount of energy. In most cases i ended up with hugely oversized batteries/capacitors for this job, so the individual charging amount would be an useful information about the part. Just an idea.... Edited August 21, 2021 by Rakete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nertea Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 1:24 PM, Rakete said: @Nertea Improvement Idea for next release: Is it possible to make the info how many EC the FFT Engines/Reactors need to charge up available in the part info, so that we can tailor the amount of batteries/Capacitors to enable charging? E.g. it could be a nice idea to have the energy to start the fusion reactor as back-up in tailored capacitorbanks, even if the batteries are low. Or have a set of disabled back-up batteries, that contain the needed amount of energy. In most cases i ended up with hugely oversized batteries/capacitors for this job, so the individual charging amount would be an useful information about the part. Just an idea.... Expand Yes this could and should be added, particularly since the generic chargeable engine already displays this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlocker96 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I love the new NSWR engine, thanks for the hard work Nertea, looking forward to see what you do with FTT! I also like how it is easier to get the fuel, compared to the Fresbee, having a bunch of Ore mined and Enriched Uranium is enough to have 1 or 2 of the 5m big tanks full. I had built this ship in orbit using the new EL and shipping Ore and Enriched Uranium from a mining base at the Mun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nertea Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) You kinda jumped the gun there! Last night's dev state had some nasty bugs. Here's some official update pictures. FFT 1.2.0 Marked for KSP 1.12 Updated SystemHeat to 0.5.5 Updated SpaceDust to 0.4.2 Updated DynamicBatteryStorage to 2.2.5 Updated CryoTanks to 1.6.1 Updated DeployableEngines to 1.3.1 Updated Waterfall to 0.6.7 Added X-43 'Niven' Advanced Nuclear Salt Water Rocket: 5m fission torch drive Added NTS-501 Fissionables tank: 5m long NSW tank Added NTS-502 Fissionables tank: 5m short NSW tank Increased advanced antimatter tank capacities by 2x (all other specs identical) Added a threshold timer for antimatter detonation * Fixed localization of nuclear smelter ablator mode Fixed some zeroed entry costs for parts Tweaks to fusion reactor description strings Fixed boattail title localization for Heinlen NSWR Effects cleanup New NSWR plume and sounds Switched from Squad to custom sound handler, should prevent crackling interference with pulse engines Fixed a number of conflicting sound directives on multimode engines New plumes for Clarke, Asimov, Discovery, Fresnel, Cascade using new Waterfall features like distortion, engine lights Edited August 23, 2021 by Nertea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ra4nd0m Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 5:36 PM, Nertea said: X-43 Expand Why not 42? It is so close to the ultimate question of life universe and everything so why not?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nertea Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 11:02 PM, ra4nd0m said: Why not 42? It is so close to the ultimate question of life universe and everything so why not?) Expand I typoed the changelog, it actually is 42! Quote This engine provides an answer to life, the universe and everything Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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