Kerbal Space Program 2 (not dying and getting a new owner) Hype Train.

[Mr. Kerbin]

On 5/3/2024 at 1:00 AM, Uuky said:

If the game fails, I'll made my own KSP. It'll be called Uuki Space Venture.

Uukis are a cat-like humanoid race. They build rockets to explore space and see how laser spots on the ground are fun on various celestial bodies. 

Moar meow, moar boosters

 

@Uuky KSA developer confirmed??? (Joke)

New page.

On 1/14/2025 at 7:32 PM, AtomicTech said:

Even if this is repetitive, watch the @ShadowZone to cut through all of the noise/bad reporting. 

Personally, I think there's no hype. We just have new owners that're gonna keep trying to sell KSP 1/KSP 2.

If the conductor says there’s no hype, then let’s just change to KSP2 Memorial Train. 

[PDCWolf]

2 hours ago, Lisias said:

Besides siding you on this specific case, the sad true is that exposing the developers to end users almost every time ends up in tears.

From that lectures about Project Management I had when younger (or less older), every single time some kind of communication were mentioned, the instructor emphasized: "shield your developers from the end users, or you will lose control of the project, or you will lose your developers, or both").

It's not the developer's task to handle end users' expectation (and requirements), and I think we can get some text book examples from this very Forum. Unavoidably they will be prone to listen to the more vocal (in voice tone, or pocket deepness) ones in detriment of the project's real goals, and sometimes even of the detriment of the product itself.

Of course there're exceptions to this rule - but the only sucessful ones I'm aware are small scale projects (one to five devs, essentially where XP works) where all of them are well oiled working together and have good social skills. Any less skilled one must be shielded even on these exceptions, by the way.

There was a local restaurant that used to have a BIG window to their kitchen, you could see the pizza masters kneading, spinning and stretching the dough, adding the sauce, cheese and whatever criminal toppings people add to pizza, and send it to the oven. At some point something happened, and the view was blocked.

Like yes, I know what you mean and you're completely right but, when I go to that restaurant, I can still hear the chefs making the calls for ingredients, I can hear the sounds of the dough hitting the table, I can hear the door to the oven opening and closing, and that's closer to what SteamDB was doing. We never knew who was developing what, but we knew "something" had happened because the depots had changed. We never got a window through SteamDB, what these cowards took away is all of the rest.

Just remember Ubisoft's plea to Steam to remove the player count from the API. If it was for these absolute cowards that don't want a single ounce of accountability in their moneymaking process, we'd have to buy games at $100, only from 3 to 5 marketing bullshots, with no refund window. Heck, they'd probably just send an install package every couple months for a new game or an update and autocharge your credit card if they could. That's it. No reviews, no forums, no support, kinda like the Epic store now that I think about it, guess that's why they shill it so hard.

Edited Thursday at 08:55 PM by PDCWolf

[cocoscacao]

1 hour ago, PDCWolf said:

whatever criminal toppings people add to pizza

Out of curiosity, which toppings added on the pizza are considered criminal by you? 

[Lisias]

1 hour ago, PDCWolf said:

There was a local restaurant that used to have a BIG window to their kitchen, you could see the pizza masters kneading, spinning and stretching the dough, adding the sauce, cheese and whatever criminal toppings people add to pizza, and send it to the oven. At some point something happened, and the view was blocked.

Like yes, I know what you mean and you're completely right but, when I go to that restaurant, I can still hear the chefs making the calls for ingredients, I can hear the sounds of the dough hitting the table, I can hear the door to the oven opening and closing, and that's closer to what SteamDB was doing. We never knew who was developing what, but we knew "something" had happened because the depots had changed. We never got a window through SteamDB, what these cowards took away is all of the rest.

Yep. Shielding your developers is not the same as shielding the product.

One very nice (and bold) thingy that used to happen on KSP¹ was the issue tracker. A public issue tracker is a marvelous P/R stunt, as long you handle them issues. Things started to get sore around here when the issue tracker was kinda abandoned.

It's a mutual exclusive dilemma: it's best for the product overall if you have a public issue tracking working, but it's hard to shield your developers if they are engaging on a public issue tracking. Hiring QAS folk to handle the public issue tracking can be a solution, but this would make the solution costlier, defeating one of the purposes of such thing: saving some bucks on QAS in order to divert the money into development. A good QAS team costs some serious money...

 

1 hour ago, PDCWolf said:

criminal toppings people add to pizza

Do what you do, don't come to Brazil.

Spoiler

 

 

1 hour ago, PDCWolf said:

Just remember Ubisoft's plea to Steam to remove the player count from the API. If it was for these absolute cowards that don't want a single ounce of accountability in their moneymaking process, we'd have to buy games at $100, only from 3 to 5 marketing bullshots, with no refund window. Heck, they'd probably just send an install package every couple months for a new game or an update and autocharge your credit card if they could. That's it. No reviews, no forums, no support, kinda like the Epic store now that I think about it, guess that's why they shill it so hard.

Yep, it is what I said before - shielding your devs is one thing, shielding the product is another one - being the later a very, very low blow on the customers. And since a good part of the game industry's customers are kids and teenagers, not exactly consumer wise audience, things get pretty sore pretty fast.

 

2 minutes ago, cocoscacao said:

Out of curiosity, which toppings added on the pizza are considered criminal by you? 

Shhh!!! Brazilians in the room!!! This will degenerate into a Holy War pretty fast!!!

[cocoscacao]

6 minutes ago, Lisias said:

Shhh!!! Brazilians in the room!!! This will degenerate into a Holy War pretty fast!!!

We add beef salad sometimes. Though I doubt the rest of the world would call that mixture a salad. Bom apetite I guess xD