KSP 2 is a perfectly playable early access game (v0.1.4)

[Meecrob]

Just now, gluckez said:

about how you think the game sucks? that's on purpose, because I disagree. I'm not gonna get into an argument about that again, only toxic people keep starting the same argument over and over again.

My argument is not that the game sucks. It is rather that the negativity would vanish if the game didn't suck. You complain that there is negativity. People aren't going to stop complaining because you think its annoying. People paid $50 for a downgrade...they have a  right to be upset.

[gluckez]

Just now, Meecrob said:

My argument is not that the game sucks. It is rather that the negativity would vanish if the game didn't suck. You complain that there is negativity. People aren't going to stop complaining because you think its annoying. People paid $50 for a downgrade...they have a  right to be upset.

well, then why didn't they just get a refund and go play a different game? my problem isn't that there's negativity, it's just that people seem to be very persistent at it. I'm pretty sure people who are still complaining, instead of just playing a different game would be the same people who would find anything else to complain about, even if it was perfect. nobody is forcing you to play a game. and as for the 50$, just face the fact that that is normal now. bg3 was 60$ in early access. and 10 years ago you would pay 30$ for a AAA title's full release. it's called inflation.
so if you really really really hate it, then go play something else. if you don't, then go play the game and report bugs so the devs have more data to work with and improve the game. but for the love of god, stop bringing up the same old arguments over and over again, I'm so sick and tired of hearing the same old excrements. I get it, you're not happy, you lost 50$ and the world now sucks, can we leave it at that?

[Meecrob]

Edit: @gluckez

You don't get it. KSP is a niche game. You can't just "go play something else." Its not like its an fps or something.

And "inflation?" Nah, Take 2 has set their price point at $50 for non-blockbuster releases...look at Red Dead Redemption...re-release? or whatever you call it? The thing that costs $50 but you can go buy an Xbox and copy of the original game for cheaper...its not inflation, its greed. They aren't making games for gamers, they are making "games" to fleece us for our money.

Edited September 1, 2023 by Meecrob

[PDCWolf]

12 minutes ago, gluckez said:

well, then why didn't they just get a refund and go play a different game?

Some people aren't able to get a refund.

12 minutes ago, gluckez said:

my problem isn't that there's negativity, it's just that people seem to be very persistent at it. I'm pretty sure people who are still complaining, instead of just playing a different game would be the same people who would find anything else to complain about, even if it was perfect.

So, since you can't process people still being critical of the game... you have to stereotype them.

13 minutes ago, gluckez said:

nobody is forcing you to play a game. and as for the 50$, just face the fact that that is normal now. bg3 was 60$ in early access. and 10 years ago you would pay 30$ for a AAA title's full release. it's called inflation.

$1 in '90 is $2.34 now. Gaming in the 90s had a user cap of about 10 million, but it's about 3.9 billion now. Inflation might be ~234% since the 90s, but Gaming as a market has also grown %39000. If anything, due to the huge surge of demand for a non scarce good (thus no limitations to meet said demand), games should've gotten cheaper. In fact they did when Digital started, and digital-only copies were worth half of their physical counterparts. TL;DR for this: Inflation is not an excuse, it's plain greed.

18 minutes ago, gluckez said:

so if you really really really hate it, then go play something else.

I have Starfield open, have been dabbling into Snowbreak for about a month now, and before that I've been playing a lot of other games. It's clear from basic stats that people are not playing KSP2. Not sure what your point is here, unless it really just boils down to wanting to silence people and only interact with people who think the exact same way. I might recommend the discord if that's the case.

19 minutes ago, gluckez said:

if you don't, then go play the game and report bugs so the devs have more data to work with and improve the game.

They're reported already, a lot of them have been since release.  In fact I'd go as far to say that, barring edge cases, most possible stuff is already reported, and very well reported if you bother to check that subforum.

21 minutes ago, gluckez said:

I'm so sick and tired of hearing the same old excrements. I get it, you're not happy, you lost 50$ and the world now sucks, can we leave it at that?

Thought you were new here. Also, those complaints remain unsolved, and as such will never stop being current. You're literally asking people to look the other way when stuff is still right in their faces.

[gluckez]

14 minutes ago, Meecrob said:

Edit: @gluckez

You don't get it. KSP is a niche game. You can't just "go play something else." Its not like its an fps or something.

And "inflation?" Nah, Take 2 has set their price point at $50 for non-blockbuster releases...look at Red Dead Redemption...re-release? or whatever you call it? The thing that costs $50 but you can go buy an Xbox and copy of the original game for cheaper...its not inflation, its greed. They aren't making games for gamers, they are making "games" to fleece us for our money.

you can go play ksp1....

And as for the inflation argument, inflation is something that occurs over time. look at nba 2k, 10 years ago the game was 30$, this years standard edition is 70$. ksp1 in early access was 20$, now it's 50$, and it will remain 50$ for the full release as well. it's not greed, developers also need to be able to afford to live, companies need to be able to afford servers and electricity, and all those prices have inflated as well.

[Meecrob]

5 minutes ago, gluckez said:

you can go play ksp1....

And as for the inflation argument, inflation is something that occurs over time. look at nba 2k, 10 years ago the game was 30$, this years standard edition is 70$. ksp1 in early access was 20$, now it's 50$, and it will remain 50$ for the full release as well. it's not greed, developers also need to be able to afford to live, companies need to be able to afford servers and electricity, and all those prices have inflated as well.

Buddy, stop talking to me as if I have a learning disability. I know I can play KSP1...that is my entire argument! The first game overshadows the second.

[Infinite Aerospace]

Is it fun?

 

Within reason yes but it's sorely missing content to add depth. I mean I was a massive KSP1 player, but I've kinda 'shelved' KSP2 at the moment. Don't get me wrong I haven't been dramatic and *I've uninstalled it!* but I'm finding it a hard play right now. I am more or less a 95% career player, I like the restriction (in terms of parts) that it gives the player, and the contracts (whilst a bit repetitive) give the game at least some direction.

 

It is however perfectly playable for me (Ryzen 7 5800H, 32Gb RAM, RTX 3060 (M) with a mixture of high and medium settings with AA enabled. The performance has increased dramatically since the first release, so I don't think anyone can be critical of that side of the patching process, each update chips away at the performance issues that little bit more.

 

But until science and career come about, I'm going to be doing a full playthrough of the Homeworld series in preparation for the third installment dropping. It jump into KSP2 now and again though.

[Gargamel]

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