vardicd Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I love the mod, Just one very minor request/thought: The game seems to gauge your lifesupport by your total capacity, but I find that sometimes, for short missions I don't fully stock the containers, on the principal of, why pay for a full tank of lifesupport if you're not going to need it. However, the lifesupport mod starts yelling at me that my food water oxygen is low, even if I have plenty for my one Kerbal for a month. It just thinks I have a problem, because the total percentage of the container is empty. Would it be possible to set it up to gauge the state of your crafts lifesupport based on the quantity of food, water, oxygen you start with?As, I said, very minor thing, somewhere down the road-ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teinella Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 My Tanks Dont show Food, Oxygen, or Water....Making life very hard for missions to the Mun...Can anyone help I am running v9 pre#4I have Ioncross installed...is that affecting it?I had the same problem, and it was caused by a mod, in my case, an outdated version of "Tac Life Retexture", so i suggest you delete US_Core and US_KAS folders if you have them. Otherwise i can only suggest to empty your game-data folder (except squad and mod-manager.dll), put TAC, test it, and then add mods one by one testing each time and find the faulty mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidfu Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 us_core and us_kas has nothing to do with tac right now. ive had them installed since .23 and no problems from them. he oprobaly applying to many modules to his command pod or using a outofdate mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immashift Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I keep forgetting that this is a thing. I've done quite a few EVAs and I never thought about it. From now on until TAC Life Support manages to support this I'll just use the TAC Fuel Balancer to dump monopropellantMonoprop is quite often quite toxic (Hydrazine), I doubt anyone would want that stuff on or anywhere near their suit. You'd probably want to use a compressed inert gas like Nitrogen or CO2. It'd be a neat mechanic to take waste CO2 and compress it down into EVAPropellant for Kerbals to use. That would be difficult for me though since I usually have ways of getting rid of waste products. Perhaps a priority system or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teinella Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 us_core and us_kas has nothing to do with tac right nowWell, i assumed that it was kas retexture but i was wrong, it's universal storage. However, like it or not, US_Core and US_KAS folder were the source of my problems witch are the same as described earlier.Of course the same problem does not automatically mean the same cause, but it seems fair to me to try without it before going through the tedious process of testing each mod separately.At least we now know that this mod can potentially mess things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadebenn Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Hey there!I'm currently having crashes when loading my save file in the 64 bit version of KSP. I have the pertinent part of the output_log here:Tac.TacLifeSupport[FFF62122][66.97]: OnLoad: SCENARIO{ name = TacLifeSupport scene = 5, 7, 6, 9 SavedGameSettings { IsNewSave = False Enabled = True HibernateInsteadOfKill = False RespawnDelay = 9203545 CrewMemberInfo { name = Kenmore Kerman lastUpdate = 1675261.21820161 lastFood = 1675261.21820161 lastWater = 1675261.21820161 vesselName = Explorer IV vesselId = e8301550-9be4-4851-a894-f6711da3e186 hibernating = False } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bartdas Kerman lastUpdate = 1675261.21820161 lastFood = 1675261.21820161 lastWater = 1675261.21820161 vesselName = Explorer IV vesselId = e8301550-9be4-4851-a894-f6711da3e186 hibernating = False } CrewMemberInfo { name = Hermin Kerman lastUpdate = 1675261.21820161 lastFood = 1675261.21820161 lastWater = 1675261.21820161 vesselName = Explorer IV vesselId = e8301550-9be4-4851-a894-f6711da3e186 hibernating = False } VesselInfo { vesselName = Explorer IV vesselType = Ship numCrew = 3 numOccupiedParts = 2 lastUpdate = 1675261.21820161 lastFood = 1675261.21820161 lastWater = 1675261.21820161 lastOxygen = 1675261.21820161 lastElectricity = 1675261.21820161 remainingFood = 70.1185771550275 remainingWater = 134.816224909691 remainingOxygen = 22816.9823800197 remainingElectricity = 670 remainingCO2 = 1178.04 remainingWaste = 3.06 remainingWasteWater = 8.94 maxFood = 74.42 maxWater = 143.09 maxOxygen = 24216.83 maxElectricity = 670 estimatedElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.0972222222222223 hibernating = False Guid = e8301550-9be4-4851-a894-f6711da3e186 } }}root{ GlobalSettings { MaxDeltaTime = 86400 ElectricityMaxDeltaTime = 1 FoodResource = Food WaterResource = Water OxygenResource = Oxygen CarbonDioxideResource = CarbonDioxide WasteResource = Waste WasteWaterResource = WasteWater FoodConsumptionRate = 1.0817575525E-05 WaterConsumptionRate = 2.0807576966E-05 OxygenConsumptionRate = 0.003521591846326 ElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.0138888888888889 BaseElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.0277777777777778 EvaElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.00185185185185185 CO2ProductionRate = 0.003029853129847 WasteProductionRate = 7.802841362E-06 WasteWaterProductionRate = 2.2876512176E-05 EvaDefaultResourceAmount = 21600 MaxTimeWithoutFood = 1296000 MaxTimeWithoutWater = 129600 MaxTimeWithoutOxygen = 7200 MaxTimeWithoutElectricity = 21000 } TACLifeSupportSettings { visible = False x = 760 y = 390 width = 371 height = 322 } LifeSupportBuildAid { visible = False x = 462 y = 304 width = 394 height = 241 } LifeSupportMonitoring { visible = False x = 810 y = 75 width = 300 height = 300 } LifeSupportCrewRoster { visible = False x = 800 y = 440 width = 320 height = 200 }}(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Tac.SpaceCenterManager[FFF6211E][67.01]: Start, new game = False(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Tac.AddLifeSupport[B8FC640][67.01]: Constructor(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Tac.AddLifeSupport[B8FC640][67.01]: run(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Tac.AddLifeSupport[B8FC640][67.01]: Adding resources to kerbalEVA/(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Tac.AddLifeSupport[B8FC640][67.01]: The expected exception is still happening when adding the Life Support part module to the EVA: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at Part.AddModule (System.String moduleName) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Part.AddModule (.ConfigNode node) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Tac.AddLifeSupport.EvaAddPartModule (.Part part) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 (Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Crash!!!SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;C:\Users\myname\Documents\KSP_win;C:\Users\myname\Documents\KSP_win;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'myname'OS-Version: 6.1.7601 (Service Pack 1) 0x300-0x1C:\Users\myname\Documents\KSP_win\KSP_x64.exe:KSP_x64.exe (000000013F3F0000), size: 15511552 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Users\myname\Documents\KSP_win\KSP_x64.exe', fileVersion: 4.5.2.26843C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll:ntdll.dll (0000000077AE0000), size: 1740800 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18247C:\Windows\system32\kernel32.dll:kernel32.dll (00000000778C0000), size: 1175552 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\kernel32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18409C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll:KERNELBASE.dll (000007FEFD950000), size: 442368 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18409C:\Windows\system32\HID.DLL:HID.DLL (000007FEFBA90000), size: 45056 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\HID.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\msvcrt.dll:msvcrt.dll (000007FEFE1A0000), size: 651264 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\msvcrt.dll', fileVersion: 7.0.7601.17744C:\Windows\system32\WS2_32.dll:WS2_32.dll (000007FEFDE60000), size: 315392 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\WS2_32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\RPCRT4.dll:RPCRT4.dll (000007FEFE250000), size: 1232896 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\RPCRT4.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18205C:\Windows\system32\NSI.dll:NSI.dll (000007FEFE240000), size: 32768 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\NSI.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\USER32.dll:USER32.dll (00000000779E0000), size: 1024000 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\USER32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\GDI32.dll:GDI32.dll (000007FEFE090000), size: 421888 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\GDI32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18275C:\Windows\system32\LPK.dll:LPK.dll (000007FEFDCD0000), size: 57344 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\LPK.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18177C:\Windows\system32\USP10.dll:USP10.dll (000007FEFDEB0000), size: 823296 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\USP10.dll', fileVersion: 1.626.7601.18454C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll:VERSION.dll (000007FEFC950000), size: 49152 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\ole32.dll:ole32.dll (000007FEFE5C0000), size: 2109440 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\ole32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\SHLWAPI.dll:SHLWAPI.dll (000007FEFE870000), size: 462848 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\SHLWAPI.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\ADVAPI32.dll:ADVAPI32.dll (000007FEFED50000), size: 897024 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\ADVAPI32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18247C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll:sechost.dll (000007FEFDE40000), size: 126976 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\SHELL32.dll:SHELL32.dll (000007FEFEE30000), size: 14188544 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\SHELL32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18429C:\Windows\system32\OPENGL32.dll:OPENGL32.dll (000007FEEB7A0000), size: 1167360 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\OPENGL32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\GLU32.dll:GLU32.dll (000007FEF2DF0000), size: 184320 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\GLU32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\DDRAW.dll:DDRAW.dll (000007FEEC8E0000), size: 987136 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\DDRAW.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\DCIMAN32.dll:DCIMAN32.dll (000007FEF63B0000), size: 32768 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\DCIMAN32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18177C:\Windows\system32\SETUPAPI.dll:SETUPAPI.dll (000007FEFE3E0000), size: 1929216 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\SETUPAPI.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\CFGMGR32.dll:CFGMGR32.dll (000007FEFDB20000), size: 221184 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\CFGMGR32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\OLEAUT32.dll:OLEAUT32.dll (000007FEFEBA0000), size: 880640 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\OLEAUT32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17676C:\Windows\system32\DEVOBJ.dll:DEVOBJ.dll (000007FEFD930000), size: 106496 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\DEVOBJ.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\dwmapi.dll:dwmapi.dll (000007FEFBA70000), size: 98304 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\dwmapi.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll:WINMM.dll (000007FEFB810000), size: 241664 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll:MSACM32.dll (000007FEFB710000), size: 98304 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.dll:IMM32.dll (000007FEFEC80000), size: 188416 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\MSCTF.dll:MSCTF.dll (000007FEFDF80000), size: 1085440 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\MSCTF.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\DNSAPI.dll:DNSAPI.dll (000007FEFCEE0000), size: 372736 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\DNSAPI.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17570C:\Windows\system32\IPHLPAPI.DLL:IPHLPAPI.DLL (000007FEFB3A0000), size: 159744 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\IPHLPAPI.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\WINNSI.DLL:WINNSI.DLL (000007FEFB390000), size: 45056 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\WINNSI.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\WINHTTP.dll:WINHTTP.dll (000007FEF8ED0000), size: 462848 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\WINHTTP.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\webio.dll:webio.dll (000007FEF8C40000), size: 409600 (result: 0), SymType: '-nosymbols-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\webio.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17725C:\Windows\system32\apphelp.dll:apphelp.dll (000007FEFD6C0000), size: 356352 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\apphelp.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\AppPatch\AppPatch64\AcGenral.DLL:AcGenral.DLL (000007FEF2D90000), size: 331776 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\AppPatch\AppPatch64\AcGenral.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18128C:\Windows\system32\SspiCli.dll:SspiCli.dll (000007FEFD690000), size: 151552 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\SspiCli.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18443C:\Windows\system32\sfc.dll:sfc.dll (00000000724B0000), size: 12288 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\sfc.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\sfc_os.DLL:sfc_os.DLL (000007FEF8FE0000), size: 65536 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\sfc_os.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\USERENV.dll:USERENV.dll (000007FEFDAB0000), size: 122880 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\USERENV.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\profapi.dll:profapi.dll (000007FEFD920000), size: 61440 (result: 0), SymType: '-nosymbols-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\profapi.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\MPR.dll:MPR.dll (000007FEF9A70000), size: 98304 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\MPR.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\nvinitx.dll:nvinitx.dll (000007FEFD840000), size: 204800 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\nvinitx.dll', fileVersion: 9.18.13.3788C:\Users\myname\Documents\KSP_win\KSP_x64_Data\Mono\mono.dll:mono.dll (000007FEE7CA0000), size: 2985984 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Users\myname\Documents\KSP_win\KSP_x64_Data\Mono\mono.dll'C:\Windows\system32\PSAPI.DLL:PSAPI.DLL (0000000077CB0000), size: 28672 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\PSAPI.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\MSWSOCK.dll:MSWSOCK.dll (000007FEFD090000), size: 348160 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\MSWSOCK.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18254C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTBASE.dll:CRYPTBASE.dll (000007FEFD810000), size: 61440 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTBASE.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\uxtheme.dll:uxtheme.dll (000007FEFC0E0000), size: 352256 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\uxtheme.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385c:\PROGRA~2\mcafee\SITEAD~1\x64\saHook.dll:saHook.dll (000007FEF8A80000), size: 36864 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'c:\PROGRA~2\mcafee\SITEAD~1\x64\saHook.dll', fileVersion: 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SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\MSASN1.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\nvapi64.dll:nvapi64.dll (000007FEF9D30000), size: 3264512 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\nvapi64.dll', fileVersion: 9.18.13.3788C:\Windows\system32\WINTRUST.dll:WINTRUST.dll (000007FEFDAE0000), size: 237568 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\WINTRUST.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18205C:\Windows\system32\powrprof.dll:powrprof.dll (000007FEFBC50000), size: 180224 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\powrprof.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\3D Vision\nvSCPAPI64.dll:nvSCPAPI64.dll (000007FEEFA00000), size: 1474560 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\3D Vision\nvSCPAPI64.dll', fileVersion: 7.17.13.3788C:\Windows\system32\MMDevAPI.DLL:MMDevAPI.DLL (000007FEFBC00000), size: 307200 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', 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(000007FEFB730000), size: 40960 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\msacm32.drv', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\midimap.dll:midimap.dll (000007FEFB700000), size: 36864 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\midimap.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\dsound.dll:dsound.dll (000007FEF25E0000), size: 557056 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\dsound.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\CLBCatQ.DLL:CLBCatQ.DLL (000007FEFE100000), size: 626688 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\CLBCatQ.DLL', fileVersion: 2001.12.8530.16385C:\Windows\system32\xinput1_3.dll:xinput1_3.dll (0000000004200000), size: 122880 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\xinput1_3.dll', fileVersion: 9.18.944.0C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTSP.dll:CRYPTSP.dll (000007FEFD050000), size: 94208 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\CRYPTSP.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\rsaenh.dll:rsaenh.dll (000007FEFCDC0000), size: 290816 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\rsaenh.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\RpcRtRemote.dll:RpcRtRemote.dll (000007FEFD820000), size: 81920 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\RpcRtRemote.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\SXS.DLL:SXS.DLL (000007FEFD760000), size: 593920 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\SXS.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\wbem\wbemprox.dll:wbemprox.dll (000007FEF7ED0000), size: 61440 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\wbem\wbemprox.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\wbemcomn.dll:wbemcomn.dll (000007FEF8220000), size: 548864 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\wbemcomn.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\wbem\wbemsvc.dll:wbemsvc.dll (000007FEF7EB0000), size: 81920 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\wbem\wbemsvc.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\wbem\fastprox.dll:fastprox.dll (000007FEF80F0000), size: 925696 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\wbem\fastprox.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\NTDSAPI.dll:NTDSAPI.dll (000007FEF7EE0000), size: 159744 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\NTDSAPI.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\dhcpcsvc.DLL:dhcpcsvc.DLL (000007FEFB1E0000), size: 98304 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\dhcpcsvc.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\dhcpcsvc6.DLL:dhcpcsvc6.DLL (000007FEFB180000), size: 69632 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\dhcpcsvc6.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17970C:\Windows\system32\credssp.dll:credssp.dll (000007FEFCC40000), size: 40960 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\credssp.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18489C:\Windows\System32\wshtcpip.dll:wshtcpip.dll (000007FEFCA20000), size: 28672 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\System32\wshtcpip.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\System32\wship6.dll:wship6.dll (000007FEFD080000), size: 28672 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\System32\wship6.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WLIDNSP.DLL:WLIDNSP.DLL (000007FEF8800000), size: 192512 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live\WLIDNSP.DLL', fileVersion: 7.250.4311.0C:\Windows\system32\rasadhlp.dll:rasadhlp.dll (000007FEF87F0000), size: 32768 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\rasadhlp.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\System32\fwpuclnt.dll:fwpuclnt.dll (000007FEFB210000), size: 339968 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\System32\fwpuclnt.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18283C:\Windows\system32\dbghelp.dll:dbghelp.dll (000007FEF9840000), size: 1200128 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\dbghelp.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514========== OUTPUTING STACK TRACE ==================(0x0000000103870000) ((module-name not available)): (filename not available): (function-name not available) + 0x0(0x00000000174345FD) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.Contract:Generate (System.Type,Contracts.Contract/ContractPrestige,int,Contracts.Contract/State) + 0xfd (0000000017434500 000000001743473D) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x00000000174344BD) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.ContractSystem:GenerateContract (int,Contracts.Contract/ContractPrestige,System.Type) + 0xbd (0000000017434400 00000000174344CE) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x00000000174341FD) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.ContractSystem:GenerateContract (int&,Contracts.Contract/ContractPrestige) + 0x6d (0000000017434190 00000000174343CE) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x00000000174340CA) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.ContractSystem:GenerateContracts (int&,Contracts.Contract/ContractPrestige,int) + 0x4a (0000000017434080 0000000017434158) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x0000000017433494) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.ContractSystem:RefreshContracts () + 0x234 (0000000017433260 0000000017433566) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x00000000173FF2A1) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.ContractSystem/:MoveNext () + 0x151 (00000000173FF150 00000000173FF2F5) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x0000000003D0CE5B) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): (wrapper runtime-invoke) <Module>:runtime_invoke_bool__this__ (object,intptr,intptr,intptr) + 0x6b (0000000003D0CDF0 0000000003D0CEEC) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x000007FEE7DC36CA) (mono): (filename not available): mono_set_defaults + 0x2b8e(0x00000000A923C2F0) ((module-name not available)): (filename not available): (function-name not available) + 0x0(0x00000000FFFFFFFF) ((module-name not available)): (filename not available): (function-name not available) + 0x0(0x0000000002164D48) ((module-name not available)): (filename not available): (function-name not available) + 0x0========== END OF STACKTRACE ===========**** Crash! ****It seems the game doesn't like resources being added to the EVAd kerbals. Anyway, if anyone could tell me a fix for this I would appreciate it Edited August 15, 2014 by jadebenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaranisElsu Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Hey there!I'm currently having crashes when loading my save file in the 64 bit version of KSP. I have the pertinent part of the output_log here:Tac.TacLifeSupport[FFF62122][66.97]: OnLoad: SCENARIO{ name = TacLifeSupport scene = 5, 7, 6, 9 SavedGameSettings { IsNewSave = False Enabled = True HibernateInsteadOfKill = False RespawnDelay = 9203545 CrewMemberInfo { name = Kenmore Kerman lastUpdate = 1675261.21820161 lastFood = 1675261.21820161 lastWater = 1675261.21820161 vesselName = Explorer IV vesselId = e8301550-9be4-4851-a894-f6711da3e186 hibernating = False } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bartdas Kerman lastUpdate = 1675261.21820161 lastFood = 1675261.21820161 lastWater = 1675261.21820161 vesselName = Explorer IV vesselId = e8301550-9be4-4851-a894-f6711da3e186 hibernating = False } CrewMemberInfo { name = Hermin Kerman lastUpdate = 1675261.21820161 lastFood = 1675261.21820161 lastWater = 1675261.21820161 vesselName = Explorer IV vesselId = e8301550-9be4-4851-a894-f6711da3e186 hibernating = False } VesselInfo { vesselName = Explorer IV vesselType = Ship numCrew = 3 numOccupiedParts = 2 lastUpdate = 1675261.21820161 lastFood = 1675261.21820161 lastWater = 1675261.21820161 lastOxygen = 1675261.21820161 lastElectricity = 1675261.21820161 remainingFood = 70.1185771550275 remainingWater = 134.816224909691 remainingOxygen = 22816.9823800197 remainingElectricity = 670 remainingCO2 = 1178.04 remainingWaste = 3.06 remainingWasteWater = 8.94 maxFood = 74.42 maxWater = 143.09 maxOxygen = 24216.83 maxElectricity = 670 estimatedElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.0972222222222223 hibernating = False Guid = e8301550-9be4-4851-a894-f6711da3e186 } }}root{ GlobalSettings { MaxDeltaTime = 86400 ElectricityMaxDeltaTime = 1 FoodResource = Food WaterResource = Water OxygenResource = Oxygen CarbonDioxideResource = CarbonDioxide WasteResource = Waste WasteWaterResource = WasteWater FoodConsumptionRate = 1.0817575525E-05 WaterConsumptionRate = 2.0807576966E-05 OxygenConsumptionRate = 0.003521591846326 ElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.0138888888888889 BaseElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.0277777777777778 EvaElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.00185185185185185 CO2ProductionRate = 0.003029853129847 WasteProductionRate = 7.802841362E-06 WasteWaterProductionRate = 2.2876512176E-05 EvaDefaultResourceAmount = 21600 MaxTimeWithoutFood = 1296000 MaxTimeWithoutWater = 129600 MaxTimeWithoutOxygen = 7200 MaxTimeWithoutElectricity = 21000 } TACLifeSupportSettings { visible = False x = 760 y = 390 width = 371 height = 322 } LifeSupportBuildAid { visible = False x = 462 y = 304 width = 394 height = 241 } LifeSupportMonitoring { visible = False x = 810 y = 75 width = 300 height = 300 } LifeSupportCrewRoster { visible = False x = 800 y = 440 width = 320 height = 200 }}(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Tac.SpaceCenterManager[FFF6211E][67.01]: Start, new game = False(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Tac.AddLifeSupport[B8FC640][67.01]: Constructor(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Tac.AddLifeSupport[B8FC640][67.01]: run(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Tac.AddLifeSupport[B8FC640][67.01]: Adding resources to kerbalEVA/(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Tac.AddLifeSupport[B8FC640][67.01]: The expected exception is still happening when adding the Life Support part module to the EVA: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at Part.AddModule (System.String moduleName) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Part.AddModule (.ConfigNode node) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 at Tac.AddLifeSupport.EvaAddPartModule (.Part part) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 (Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)Crash!!!SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;C:\Users\myname\Documents\KSP_win;C:\Users\myname\Documents\KSP_win;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'myname'OS-Version: 6.1.7601 (Service Pack 1) 0x300-0x1C:\Users\myname\Documents\KSP_win\KSP_x64.exe:KSP_x64.exe (000000013F3F0000), size: 15511552 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Users\myname\Documents\KSP_win\KSP_x64.exe', fileVersion: 4.5.2.26843C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll:ntdll.dll (0000000077AE0000), size: 1740800 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18247C:\Windows\system32\kernel32.dll:kernel32.dll (00000000778C0000), size: 1175552 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\kernel32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18409C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll:KERNELBASE.dll (000007FEFD950000), size: 442368 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\KERNELBASE.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18409C:\Windows\system32\HID.DLL:HID.DLL (000007FEFBA90000), size: 45056 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\HID.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\msvcrt.dll:msvcrt.dll (000007FEFE1A0000), size: 651264 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\msvcrt.dll', fileVersion: 7.0.7601.17744C:\Windows\system32\WS2_32.dll:WS2_32.dll (000007FEFDE60000), size: 315392 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\WS2_32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\RPCRT4.dll:RPCRT4.dll (000007FEFE250000), size: 1232896 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\RPCRT4.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18205C:\Windows\system32\NSI.dll:NSI.dll (000007FEFE240000), size: 32768 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\NSI.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\USER32.dll:USER32.dll (00000000779E0000), size: 1024000 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\USER32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\GDI32.dll:GDI32.dll (000007FEFE090000), size: 421888 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\GDI32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18275C:\Windows\system32\LPK.dll:LPK.dll (000007FEFDCD0000), size: 57344 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\LPK.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18177C:\Windows\system32\USP10.dll:USP10.dll (000007FEFDEB0000), size: 823296 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\USP10.dll', fileVersion: 1.626.7601.18454C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll:VERSION.dll (000007FEFC950000), size: 49152 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\VERSION.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\ole32.dll:ole32.dll (000007FEFE5C0000), size: 2109440 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\ole32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\SHLWAPI.dll:SHLWAPI.dll (000007FEFE870000), size: 462848 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\SHLWAPI.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\ADVAPI32.dll:ADVAPI32.dll (000007FEFED50000), size: 897024 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\ADVAPI32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18247C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll:sechost.dll (000007FEFDE40000), size: 126976 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\sechost.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\SHELL32.dll:SHELL32.dll (000007FEFEE30000), size: 14188544 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\SHELL32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18429C:\Windows\system32\OPENGL32.dll:OPENGL32.dll (000007FEEB7A0000), size: 1167360 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\OPENGL32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\GLU32.dll:GLU32.dll (000007FEF2DF0000), size: 184320 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\GLU32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\DDRAW.dll:DDRAW.dll (000007FEEC8E0000), size: 987136 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\DDRAW.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\DCIMAN32.dll:DCIMAN32.dll (000007FEF63B0000), size: 32768 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\DCIMAN32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18177C:\Windows\system32\SETUPAPI.dll:SETUPAPI.dll (000007FEFE3E0000), size: 1929216 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\SETUPAPI.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\CFGMGR32.dll:CFGMGR32.dll (000007FEFDB20000), size: 221184 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\CFGMGR32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\OLEAUT32.dll:OLEAUT32.dll (000007FEFEBA0000), size: 880640 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\OLEAUT32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17676C:\Windows\system32\DEVOBJ.dll:DEVOBJ.dll (000007FEFD930000), size: 106496 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\DEVOBJ.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\dwmapi.dll:dwmapi.dll (000007FEFBA70000), size: 98304 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\dwmapi.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll:WINMM.dll (000007FEFB810000), size: 241664 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\WINMM.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll:MSACM32.dll (000007FEFB710000), size: 98304 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\MSACM32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.dll:IMM32.dll (000007FEFEC80000), size: 188416 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\IMM32.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\MSCTF.dll:MSCTF.dll (000007FEFDF80000), size: 1085440 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\MSCTF.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\DNSAPI.dll:DNSAPI.dll (000007FEFCEE0000), size: 372736 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\DNSAPI.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17570C:\Windows\system32\IPHLPAPI.DLL:IPHLPAPI.DLL (000007FEFB3A0000), size: 159744 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\IPHLPAPI.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\WINNSI.DLL:WINNSI.DLL (000007FEFB390000), size: 45056 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\WINNSI.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\WINHTTP.dll:WINHTTP.dll (000007FEF8ED0000), size: 462848 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\WINHTTP.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\system32\webio.dll:webio.dll (000007FEF8C40000), size: 409600 (result: 0), SymType: '-nosymbols-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\webio.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17725C:\Windows\system32\apphelp.dll:apphelp.dll (000007FEFD6C0000), size: 356352 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\apphelp.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514C:\Windows\AppPatch\AppPatch64\AcGenral.DLL:AcGenral.DLL (000007FEF2D90000), size: 331776 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\AppPatch\AppPatch64\AcGenral.DLL', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18128C:\Windows\system32\SspiCli.dll:SspiCli.dll (000007FEFD690000), size: 151552 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\SspiCli.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18443C:\Windows\system32\sfc.dll:sfc.dll (00000000724B0000), size: 12288 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\sfc.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385C:\Windows\system32\sfc_os.DLL:sfc_os.DLL (000007FEF8FE0000), size: 65536 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size: 339968 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\System32\fwpuclnt.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.18283C:\Windows\system32\dbghelp.dll:dbghelp.dll (000007FEF9840000), size: 1200128 (result: 0), SymType: '-exported-', PDB: 'C:\Windows\system32\dbghelp.dll', fileVersion: 6.1.7601.17514========== OUTPUTING STACK TRACE ==================(0x0000000103870000) ((module-name not available)): (filename not available): (function-name not available) + 0x0(0x00000000174345FD) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.Contract:Generate (System.Type,Contracts.Contract/ContractPrestige,int,Contracts.Contract/State) + 0xfd (0000000017434500 000000001743473D) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x00000000174344BD) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.ContractSystem:GenerateContract (int,Contracts.Contract/ContractPrestige,System.Type) + 0xbd (0000000017434400 00000000174344CE) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x00000000174341FD) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.ContractSystem:GenerateContract (int&,Contracts.Contract/ContractPrestige) + 0x6d (0000000017434190 00000000174343CE) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x00000000174340CA) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.ContractSystem:GenerateContracts (int&,Contracts.Contract/ContractPrestige,int) + 0x4a (0000000017434080 0000000017434158) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x0000000017433494) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.ContractSystem:RefreshContracts () + 0x234 (0000000017433260 0000000017433566) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x00000000173FF2A1) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): Contracts.ContractSystem/:MoveNext () + 0x151 (00000000173FF150 00000000173FF2F5) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x0000000003D0CE5B) (Mono JIT code): (filename not available): (wrapper runtime-invoke) <Module>:runtime_invoke_bool__this__ (object,intptr,intptr,intptr) + 0x6b (0000000003D0CDF0 0000000003D0CEEC) [0000000002164D48 - Unity Root Domain] + 0x0(0x000007FEE7DC36CA) (mono): (filename not available): mono_set_defaults + 0x2b8e(0x00000000A923C2F0) ((module-name not available)): (filename not available): (function-name not available) + 0x0(0x00000000FFFFFFFF) ((module-name not available)): (filename not available): (function-name not available) + 0x0(0x0000000002164D48) ((module-name not available)): (filename not available): (function-name not available) + 0x0========== END OF STACKTRACE ===========**** Crash! ****It seems the game doesn't like resources being added to the EVAd kerbals. Anyway, if anyone could tell me a fix for this I would appreciate it Did you read https://github.com/taraniselsu/TacLifeSupport/wiki/Help ? Please follow the instructions.And Windows 64-bit is so buggy right now. It most likely has nothing to do with my mod. Please use 32-bit unless you really need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jadebenn Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Did you read https://github.com/taraniselsu/TacLifeSupport/wiki/Help ? Please follow the instructions.And Windows 64-bit is so buggy right now. It most likely has nothing to do with my mod. Please use 32-bit unless you really need it.Sorry about that, here is a link to the full output_log.The problem seems to be connected to 64 bit though, as 32 bit runs fine.I'll see if it's a mod conflict too and update this post when I get back from that.EDIT: Yep, looks like it is a mod, here's the stock x64 version's output_log, no crashes. Edited August 15, 2014 by jadebenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Kerman Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Monoprop is quite often quite toxic (Hydrazine), I doubt anyone would want that stuff on or anywhere near their suit. You'd probably want to use a compressed inert gas like Nitrogen or CO2. It'd be a neat mechanic to take waste CO2 and compress it down into EVAPropellant for Kerbals to use. That would be difficult for me though since I usually have ways of getting rid of waste products. Perhaps a priority system or something.True, but I don't deal with actual propellant types. I don't use RealFuels or anything like that. So, for me, monopropellant is just "monopropellant" and is used by RCS and Kerbals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyberSmoke Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I have a question, Given the values you have on the Spreadsheet the numbers presented in the config for consumption per second (below) look way off. Especially with a 1.25m food container holding 276 food with a weight of 280kg, amounting to less then 5 minutes of food.FoodConsumptionRate = 1.0817575525E-05WaterConsumptionRate = 2.0807576966E-05OxygenConsumptionRate = 0.003521591846326ElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.0138888888888889BaseElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.0277777777777778EvaElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.00185185185185185CO2ProductionRate = 0.003029853129847WasteProductionRate = 7.802841362E-06WasteWaterProductionRate = 2.2876512176E-05When acording to the spreadsheet...if I am reading it right, consumption should be far less per second of time. O2, Electricity, CO2 all reflect a significantly lower value per second. So why are the Kerbals chowing down so ravenously that they are eating (what I can only guess) it all so fast? Are the numbers off and is there a set of proper values some where that makes the balance a little more sustainable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMatt Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I have a question, Given the values you have on the Spreadsheet the numbers presented in the config for consumption per second (below) look way off. Especially with a 1.25m food container holding 276 food with a weight of 280kg, amounting to less then 5 minutes of food.FoodConsumptionRate = 1.0817575525E-05WaterConsumptionRate = 2.0807576966E-05OxygenConsumptionRate = 0.003521591846326ElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.0138888888888889BaseElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.0277777777777778EvaElectricityConsumptionRate = 0.00185185185185185CO2ProductionRate = 0.003029853129847WasteProductionRate = 7.802841362E-06WasteWaterProductionRate = 2.2876512176E-05When acording to the spreadsheet...if I am reading it right, consumption should be far less per second of time. O2, Electricity, CO2 all reflect a significantly lower value per second. So why are the Kerbals chowing down so ravenously that they are eating (what I can only guess) it all so fast? Are the numbers off and is there a set of proper values some where that makes the balance a little more sustainable?...I think you're misreading the numbers. Both the Food and Water consumption rates have "E-05" at the end on the right - that means the visible number is multiplied by (10 to the power of the E-number). It's a common programming variation on standard scientific notation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertibirdo Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Excuse me, i have a question regarding EVA. If this was already answered, please direct me to the post, as i was unable to find it.As soon as i exit my ship on EVA, i get message, that all my resources are depleted, and kerbal has only EVA propellant on him.Is there any fix to that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chlue Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Hello,I tried this mod and so far it locked nice, but it seems to mainly boils down to adding some additional weight to the ships and then you don't need to thing about is much more (as long as no permanent settlement is desired). I wonder how useful it would be to add some additional requirements to consider their living space, too. I came up with this ideas:Goals: Create need to take along multiple KerbalsCreate need to provide some living space for themLet real long term missions require artificial gravity or ground based recovery stations[table=width: 500][tr] [td][/td] [td]bornout[/td] [td]fatigue[/td][/tr][tr] [td]EVA[/td] [td]1 day[/td] [td]7 days[/td][/tr][tr] [td]EVA - gnd[/td] [td]2 days[/td] [td]14 days[/td][/tr][tr] [td]single pod[/td] [td]2 days[/td] [td]14 days[/td][/tr][tr] [td]single pod - gravity[/td] [td]5 days[/td] [td]1 month[/td][/tr][tr] [td]multi pod - single kerbal[/td] [td]5 days[/td] [td]1 month[/td][/tr][tr] [td]multi pod - full[/td] [td]-5 days[/td] [td]3 months[/td][/tr][tr] [td]multi pod - full; gravity[/td] [td]-2d[/td] [td]no change[/td][/tr][tr] [td]multi pod - half full[/td] [td]-2 days[/td] [td]12 months[/td][/tr][tr] [td]multi pod - half full; gravity[/td] [td]-1 day[/td] [td]-2 month[/td][/tr][/table]definitions: EVA - whenever the Kerbal must wear a spacesuitgravity - At least 20% Kerbin gravity (can be artificial)half full - craft could hold at least two times the amount of Kerbalspositive numbers - fatigue/burnout will build up 0% to 100% over this time frameNegative numbers - fatigue/burnout will reduce from 100% to 0% over this time frameeffects: Fatigue 100% → Kerbal gets comatose Burnout 100% → Kerbal dies due to long term exhaustion special interactions (to try to save Kerbals with full fatigue bar): remote stim-pack - command center can remotely wake up a Kerbal: fatigue -25%, burnout +20% first aid - another Kerbal in the same craft or via EVA operation: fatigue -25%, burnout +5% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikehahn78 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 That would surely put things on end and make it even harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyberSmoke Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 ...I think you're misreading the numbers. Both the Food and Water consumption rates have "E-05" at the end on the right - that means the visible number is multiplied by (10 to the power of the E-number). It's a common programming variation on standard scientific notation.I did not misread them, the whole number value is still one liter of food per second eaten, or two liters of water consumed per second since that is what LS was changed to. Just like the kerbals are producing almost 8 times the waste (Assuming it is poop) as they are consuming. I tested this with a launch and indeed a full 1.25m can of food was gone in less then five minutes of launching. Something that should last much longer.These are the default values, so I can only assume this is a bug. So I would much like to know the intended values so I can correct them to be more inline with the other consumption and production rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LORDPrometheus Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 There seems to be a conflict between TAC life support and interstellar when using karboniteIt seems to be related to ORS being unable to recognize TAC resources when using the version packaged with Interstellar. This causes resources not to be used when using interstellar and when you add karbonite a flood of errors brings your fps to 1-3 for any ship that contains TAC resources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larkvi Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I did not misread them, the whole number value is still one liter of food per second eatenBased upon the number you quoted from the config, they are consuming 0.0000108 L of food / second., or about 40mL/hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzikakulka Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 @SyberSmoke If you are speaking about default TAC, 1.25m container has like 200 days of stuff for 1 kerbal for me. Not sure about the exact amount, but two of these is enough for me to forget about resupplying one-kerbal station for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panarchist Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) us_core and us_kas has nothing to do with tac right now. ive had them installed since .23 and no problems from them. he oprobaly applying to many modules to his command pod or using a outofdate mod.Not entirely true - older versions of us_core and us_kas used a resource definition which conflicted with TAC-LS. Paul Kingtinger released an updated version which does not conflict, but if one is using an older version, the conflict may still exist.Edit: Specifically, what I am saying is that some older versions of Universal Storage *will* conflict with pre-release 0.9 versions of TAC-LS. Depending on one's upgrade path with both mods, you may or may not see issues. The current versions of both mods no longer conflict. Edited August 15, 2014 by panarchist clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyberSmoke Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) @SyberSmoke If you are speaking about default TAC, 1.25m container has like 200 days of stuff for 1 kerbal for me. Not sure about the exact amount, but two of these is enough for me to forget about resupplying one-kerbal station for a long time.This is the interesting part as when I used it, they burned through the can as I entered orbit. So is this some of that 64bit strangeness...or do I just need to move the decimal point and lose the useless decimal accuracy (really it is a game, we do not need precision to the trillionth of a decimal). I can appreciate the accuracy, but it makes reading the numbers difficult.Note, if this was working properly in my case. A command pod should have plenty of food and water. BUT, if I send a ship out with only the pod, the values shown result in the pod being out of food and water. So those values are not working as intended from all tests I have done. Edited August 15, 2014 by SyberSmoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munseeker Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 This is the interesting part as when I used it, they burned through the can as I entered orbit. So is this some of that 64bit strangeness....I'd vote for 64bit strangeness. I've been using 9pre4 since it came out for a wide variety of craft and EVAs and it's been working as advertised… on 32bit. Another thing is, try removing the TAC folder completely and reinstall - some people have had issues with old TAC v8 files not being completely removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaranisElsu Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 The numbers in my spreadsheet are different from version 0.9. Due to discussions with NathanKell and others, I decided to change a couple things and rebalance. Though the numbers in the spreadsheet should be roughly 1/2 of the defaults in 0.9. Check your command pods, and make sure they have an equal duration for each resource: Food time == water time == oxygen time. You can use the Build Aid in the VAB or SPH. If not, then double check your installation and read https://github.com/taraniselsu/TacLifeSupport/wiki/Tutorial#installation-tutorial. If things still don't seem right, then please read https://github.com/taraniselsu/TacLifeSupport/wiki/Help and follow the directions.If you are experiencing any bugs or crashes, then please read https://github.com/taraniselsu/TacLifeSupport/wiki/Help and follow the directions. I cannot help much without a log file. It just gives me so much useful stuff when trying to determine what might be going wrong. Possible errors are everything from 64-bit is horribly buggy to using the wrong version (i.e. not v0.9pre4) to incorrect installation. Please help me help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyberSmoke Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 The numbers in my spreadsheet are different from version 0.9. Due to discussions with NathanKell and others, I decided to change a couple things and rebalance. Though the numbers in the spreadsheet should be roughly 1/2 of the defaults in 0.9. Check your command pods, and make sure they have an equal duration for each resource: Food time == water time == oxygen time. You can use the Build Aid in the VAB or SPH. If not, then double check your installation and read https://github.com/taraniselsu/TacLifeSupport/wiki/Tutorial#installation-tutorial. If things still don't seem right, then please read https://github.com/taraniselsu/TacLifeSupport/wiki/Help and follow the directions.If you are experiencing any bugs or crashes, then please read https://github.com/taraniselsu/TacLifeSupport/wiki/Help and follow the directions. I cannot help much without a log file. It just gives me so much useful stuff when trying to determine what might be going wrong. Possible errors are everything from 64-bit is horribly buggy to using the wrong version (i.e. not v0.9pre4) to incorrect installation. Please help me help you.I am using 0.9pre4.The mod is being installed using KSPMod Admin, all directories look correct.The GameData directory was wiped before installing the new version so no folders were left over.The game does not crash or show any other unexpected behavior then what is described above. That being a resource that should last for days is being devoured in minutes.Huh...well looks like something got worked out as it is now working properly. I do dislike transient errors. I guess if it happens again I will post logs and such. But with it working properly now would there be a point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaidian Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Hi, I am getting an odd problem where Ships correctly have LifeSupport resources but none ever deplete. I have gotten this behavior in Windows on both 64 and 32bit versions for KSP, career and sandbox, new and old saves.The configuration box prompt does not appear at the KSC screen. The build helper also does not appear in the VAB.This is true regardless of whether toolbar is installed.The only other mod installed is ModuleManager.2.2.1.dllLogfile is hosted here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/110197558/TAC%20output_log%20Xaidian%2081514948.txtI have used this mod before and really enjoyed it, never had any problems in the past.Thanks for your hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaranisElsu Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 Hi, I am getting an odd problem where Ships correctly have LifeSupport resources but none ever deplete. I have gotten this behavior in Windows on both 64 and 32bit versions for KSP, career and sandbox, new and old saves.The configuration box prompt does not appear at the KSC screen. The build helper also does not appear in the VAB.This is true regardless of whether toolbar is installed.The only other mod installed is ModuleManager.2.2.1.dllLogfile is hosted here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/110197558/TAC%20output_log%20Xaidian%2081514948.txtI have used this mod before and really enjoyed it, never had any problems in the past.Thanks for your hard work.Thank you for the log file Where did you download it? TACLS should not be listed as a "Non-DLL" mod, so it sounds like you are missing the .dll file.[ModuleManager] compiling list of loaded mods...Mod DLLs found: Assembly-CSharp v1.0.0.0 ModuleManager.2.2.1 v2.2.1.0Non-DLL mods added: TacLifeSupportMods by directory (subdirs of GameData): NASAmission Squad ThunderAerospaceDid you download from one of these links https://github.com/taraniselsu/TacLifeSupport/wiki/Download ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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