Kowgan Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Yes, it's okay. No, it shouldn't hurt anything. This newer version doesn't change any deep hardcoding that should affect the MM usage.-Edit-Ninja'd. :|And thanks for the update, Sarbian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic1 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Is it okay if I grab the newer version of module manager even though the mods that I have don't use it yet? I mean, will it screw anything up?No, everything will be fine. I say: "How newer the version, the better for KSP" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 It's ok. The mods won't see the difference. Delete the old MM and install the new one.Okay cool then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 A couple of days ago I activated the Nvidia ShadowPlay FPS counter on my PC. So I had the frame rate displayed while loading KSP and seeing it caped at 60fps (I have VSync On) that reminded me that the game loading use co-routine and so loads only 1 item per frame. So no more than 60 items per seconds on my PC.So I had an idea : disabling vsync while in the loading screen and setting it back to the user setting when the game reach the menu. It worked fine and my stock Dev KSP loaded about 10s faster (from about 48s to 37s). A nice improvement for 6 lines of code.This morning I had to launch KSP a bit more than usual while struggling with some MJ code. I had not converted that install textures to DDS since 0.90, so to make things a bit faster I did it. And I launched with the new MM code that disable vsync. KSP loaded in 13sSo I guess some may want this Module Manager 2.5.9. The only change is the vsync disabling in the loading screen.ModuleManager.2.5.9.dllModuleManager-2.5.9.zipWow!Amazing!Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubi Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) Great!My RO install (incl. FASA and KW) loads ~30 sec faster.2.5.8: 120sec on loading screen + 20 sec on DDS loading for RSS2.5.9: 90sec on loading screen + 20 sec on DDS loading for RSS2.5.9 with vSync OFF in nvidia control panel: 71 + 20 Amazing how efficient a code can be without lots of NOPs Edited January 18, 2015 by kubi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainDreamer Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 So the cats are on catnip now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelien Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Damn you sarbian. I used to have just enough time to get myself a cup of tea when starting up KSP. Now I get to pouring milk and the game is already loaded... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic1 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Yep, my game already loads 43sec faster (96 mods) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowgan Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Yep, my game already loads 43sec faster (96 mods)On an offtopic line, are you using ATM to handle that without eventual crashes due to 4GB+ on memory? Or, assuming you're using it, do you reach the 4GB limit even though? Thanks.If this offtopic conversation gets more than one post response, I'll make sure to continue it through PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic1 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 On an offtopic line, are you using ATM to handle that without eventual crashes due to 4GB+ on memory? Or, assuming you're using it, do you reach the 4GB limit even though? Thanks.If this offtopic conversation gets more than one post response, I'll make sure to continue it through PM.Yes, I'm using ATM. I have ~500MB left till I reach the limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarbian Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 I was surprised to see that ATM loading was not accelerated as much as pure DDS. I may have a look later in the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Damn you sarbian. I used to have just enough time to get myself a cup of tea when starting up KSP. Now I get to pouring milk and the game is already loaded...How can you even drink tea while there are rockets to crash??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowgan Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 (edited) Yes, I'm using ATM. I have ~500MB left till I reach the limit.Thanks for the answer. I've tried ATM before, but I thought it would prevent those fated crashes. Unfortunately, for some reason, the game keeps accumulating more and more memory as time goes by.[/offtopic] Edited January 18, 2015 by Kowgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genbrien Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 updated to 2.5.9now it crashed while loading Interstellar mod. Removed it and now crash while loading B9.Is there a link to 2.5.8 please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarbian Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 All the version are here : https://ksp.sarbian.com/jenkins/job/ModuleManager/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/But if you crash you most likely have a memory limit problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowgan Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 updated to 2.5.9now it crashed while loading Interstellar mod. Removed it and now crash while loading B9.Is there a link to 2.5.8 please?https://ksp.sarbian.com/jenkins/job/ModuleManager/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/ModuleManager-2.5.8.zipWould be nice if you provided us the output_log while loading using 2.5.9, though. -edit-Today, Sarbian became Naruto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainDreamer Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Just updated too, and load in an existing craft, suddenly experiencing phantom acceleration, where my speed magically picks up despite all engines are off. Decoupling turns this off. Loading into a craft without engine and this has no problem...I wonder if my save file is corrupted though. Going to do more test later on when I have time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klesh Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Updated, I fired up a few existing ships in orbits and no strange behaviors.It shaved a clean 15 seconds off my load time! Amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genbrien Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 All the version are here : https://ksp.sarbian.com/jenkins/job/ModuleManager/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/But if you crash you most likely have a memory limit problem.was that. I re-tweaked the settings in ATM and now it works fine, thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaalidas Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 15 seconds saved from simply turning off Vsync during load? That's just nuts. Wonder what you could save if you totally replaced the loading screen with a dos-style window and turned off all other special effects entirely.Not that we're going to do that, just speculation. Reminds me of the predictions people used to have when talking about solid state drives. "It'll be like... click the button on the box and before the click is done, you're booted up!" Then we found out we were being stupid and nothing loads that fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 15 seconds saved from simply turning off Vsync during load? That's just nuts. Wonder what you could save if you totally replaced the loading screen with a dos-style window and turned off all other special effects entirely.Not that we're going to do that, just speculation. Reminds me of the predictions people used to have when talking about solid state drives. "It'll be like... click the button on the box and before the click is done, you're booted up!" Then we found out we were being stupid and nothing loads that fast.Now just think how much harder brute force password hacking attempts would be if a standard 3 second delay is added after every failed attempt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudgetHedgehog Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Holy moly.. FRAPS just registered 350+ FPS I'll be honest, ATM, DDSlaoder and this have made KSP so much more enjoyable for me - before, it would take like 10 minutes to load. I'd alt tab out, browse reddit or get distracted and then just kinda not bother with KSP. But now, I barely have time to get something to drink and I come back and it's loaded.. It's astounding. Thank you so much for this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galane Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Reminds me of the predictions people used to have when talking about solid state drives. "It'll be like... click the button on the box and before the click is done, you're booted up!" Then we found out we were being stupid and nothing loads that fast.Nothing except 1980's micro computers with their operating systems in ROM chips. Ready to go the instant the power was turned on.I used to have a PC running Windows 98 SE, much slower hardware than what I have now with Windows 7, that was fully booted and ready to go in only 45 seconds. That was years before the first SSD hit the market. A lot of that speed was the 7200 RPM hard drive. Now I have a 3.2 Ghz dual core with far more everything in speed and capacity than that one from the end of the 20th century, and it boots up *much slower*. Progress? What?Back then I also had an old 300 Mhz Pentium II laptop (Toshiba Tecra 800) that with its original 4200 RPM hard drive took well over 5 minutes to boot Windows 98 SE. When I upgraded to a 5400 RPM drive of much larger capacity it reduced the boot time to under 2 minutes and it was far quicker at everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarbian Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 And your old solar powered calculator start in 0.0s. Back on track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympic1 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Do I need to set the 'NEEDS' command in front of the 'AFTER' command, or behind it?@PART[RTGigaDish1] :NEEDS[RemoteTech, Kopernicus] :AFTER[RemoteTech]OR@PART[RTGigaDish1] :AFTER[RemoteTech] :NEEDS[RemoteTech, Kopernicus] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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