PCanas Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 It will not take longer, because most likely all of the mods that you have are using DDS textures - so ATM is running, but not compressing anything. And the compressing part is why the game loads slow the first time with ATM - it is creating the compressed textures.Well, for now I'm only using those two mods, and think they already use dds. As I said, I'm adding the mods one by one and certainly I have mods that will be compressed by ATM. I just thought that even the stock KSP would take a bit longer to load the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damerell Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 But I'm noticing a definite speedup using ATM. I'm running 1.0.4 virtually unmodded (the only mods I'm using are ATM and Navyfish's docking alignment utility). But perhaps my case is unusual: I'm running 64 bit under linux and my computer is so old and slow that it is really barely able to run KSP. With ATM I wouldn't say that KSP is running fast, but it is at least less painfully slow than it is without it.Well, that case is unusual, yes - nearly all ATM use was 32-bit Windows users trying to cram a lot of mods in. It might be useful to install Physical Time Ratio Viewer and try to quantify the speedup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFireRodan Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Alright, so the Aggressive version seems to have absolutely no effect whatsoever. Any help? I don't want to run OpenGL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enceos Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) could you explain how you made the textures smaller for me please and give names of needed tools (if any are neccessary), that would be really coolThere's a plugin called Nvidia Texture Tools for Adobe Photoshop.It enables Photoshop to open and edit DDS files directly.On opening it will ask how to open:Then after resizing the image on save it will open another window:For resizing use sizes 256, 512 or 1024, other numbers are bad. Don't change the DXT format, it usually chooses the best depending on channels present. Change "MIP Map Filtering" to Mitchell and tick "Generate MIP Maps".Use Total Commander, TreeSize or other similar software to detect big folders.Small textures are not so good for close up screenshots, but perfect for everything else.While writing this I noticed that Kerbal Engineer has oversized non DDS textures for two tiny parts. Fixed Edited July 13, 2015 by Enceos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naten Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) I use your mod a lot, almost always, unless I'm stock. Thanks for the great mod. I also have configs in my sig for fixing toolbar icons. I'm slowly building it up.A small typo:When you wrote what Aggressive does, you accidentally a typo. Just so you know, no mean to be rude. The text: (obviously, typo in bold)"Rresizes all textures to 1/2 size, with a max of 256x256 for normal maps."EDIT: I have discovered that this mod has little effect on DDS textures by reading the previous posts here. I like your mod, but without a way to scale DDS textures that many of the mods have switched to using. I hope to see a fix for this, and I appreciate the work you've done to get here. However, this is quite a roadblock in the mod's usefulness and I'd really like to see it fixed.Good day Edited July 15, 2015 by Naten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guakstick Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I use BD Armoury with this installed, and it breaks the Textures for that mod.Is there a way I can fix this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armarnis Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 many thanks Enceos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leptoon Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This mod needs to be disabled, the download links need to be removed from the thread and it should be taken off ckan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nansuchao Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 What??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enceos Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This mod needs to be disabled, the download links need to be removed from the thread and it should be taken off ckan.Troll away, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanguine-Fiend Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 IS there still a need to use this in the current version of the game? Will it save RAM above and beyonf what -force-opengl will do for me?Should I use one or the other or both?Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nansuchao Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This mod is still useful. It doesn't compress DSS textures for now, but many mods still has .png, so if OPEN-GL is good for you, ATM still can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leptoon Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 (edited) Troll away, sir.This mod is the troll... It wasted my time and it's wasting the time of others since it doesn't work and hasn't been updated in quite some time to compress DDS textures, which almost all of the textures in KSP are. So I downloaded it, tried it out and all it did was blur my toolbar icons. Then I come to this thread to see that it's basically useless? And I'm the troll for saying it should be removed from ckan so other people don't download it by mistake? Sure. Edited July 18, 2015 by leptoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK3424 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This mod is the troll... It wasted my time and it's wasting the time of others since it doesn't work and hasn't been updated in quite some time to compress DDS textures, which almost all of the textures in KSP are. So I downloaded it, tried it out and all it did was blur my toolbar icons. Then I come to this thread to see that it's basically useless? And I'm the troll for saying it should be removed from ckan so other people don't download it by mistake? Sure.The blurry toolbar icons are those who are converted to dds texture, i use a dds converter and have set it that it won't convert textures to dds when they are smaller than 64x64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leptoon Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 The blurry toolbar icons are those who are converted to dds texture, i use a dds converter and have set it that it won't convert textures to dds when they are smaller than 64x64.I guess I'll try using a DDS converter/compressor/conveyer/combobulator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK3424 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I advice to use this one:http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/98672-WIN-KSP-to-DDS-texture-converter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolitaryFortress Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Is ther a way to use this mod, but keep my flags, i use it, but all my flags disepear.Help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dognosh Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Sorry but I also found it useless, as of 1.04. It might have worked before but I get no savings now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guakstick Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Currently I am installing this mod, and then it either will not let the game load up, or the Textures break for BDArmoury. (Just going full white) Does anyone know a solution I can use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Currently I am installing this mod, and then it either will not let the game load up, or the Textures break for BDArmoury. (Just going full white) Does anyone know a solution I can use?If you are running 1.0.4, you don't need it. Textures have been converted to DDS and ATM doesn't do anything with DDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrious Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I'm trying the aggressive settings instead of the normal settings for KSP (normal works, but I wanna see if there's an even greater reduction with aggressive), and I am quite glad I have an 8 core/16 thread CPU while it rebuilds the cache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guakstick Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Ok thanks, but if you know of any other add ons that can help in 1.0.4, it would be very much appreciated.Thanks Again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebigunso Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I assume this is a ATM problem so I'll report it here.I'm getting some icon textures blurred for the blizzy's tool bar, the strange part is that it's not all of them but just part of them. Also some icons for the stock tool bar is completely missing.I've tried dumping the ATM cache and letting it redo the texture compressing, but the result was the same so I'm confused what exactly is the issue.btw I'm using the aggressive version of ATM.I will post a screenshot to showcase what is going on. This is from the space center view.As you can see, some icons are sharp and crisp while some others are blurred.I checked inside my gamedata folder and have confirmed the original icon textures are in there, and are also not blurry as you see them here.It'd be great if anyone can give me an insight to what might be going wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nansuchao Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Nothing wrong, that's exactly what ATM does, cause probably those textures are still png. There is the Nathen ATM config that solve most icon issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebigunso Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Nothing wrong, that's exactly what ATM does, cause probably those textures are still png. There is the Nathen ATM config that solve most icon issues.cool, where do I get that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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