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[0.90] ON HOLD Klockheed Martian Special Parts V2.2 - 28-Nov - Dev Thread

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Request: can we please have the crocodile interstages in 1.25 to .625 and 3.75 to 5 (in other words, a full range of tweak-scale values).

I have made configs for them and sent to dtobi, but since he has a life and I don't, he can't update that often.

I can send you a download link? He didn't really want me distributing in this thread so I'll refrain from doing that.

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Version 0.3: More resizable parts and Skylab

* New Skylab science laboratory

* More resizable parts: Crocodiles (Thanks Floppster)

* Half size cargo bay (Thanks Floppster)

* Corrected the size of the large shrouds

I added a 3.75m habitat and science lab module. It is quite heavy but it features pretty good science module stats and even a small observatory.

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The inflatable heatshield appears to be having an issue with FAR, the coefficient of drag is showing as .06 to .04 with the shield, compared to .20 without it.

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Hmmm yeah I've had the same problem with the VAB editor freezing for a couple of seconds every time I pick up one of the new parts. I checked the log and found the moment when I picked up the part from the list, here's all the details from that section:

[LOG 02:12:05.699] Km attachment tweaker is running!!!
[LOG 02:12:12.518] Part: KM Short Storage Shroud Transforms: 9
[LOG 02:12:12.519] KM Short Storage Shroud: Geometry model created; Size: [1.25, 0.36390221118927, 1.25000035762787], LD [1.25, 1.25000011920929, 0], UD [1.25, 1.25000011920929, 0]

Surface area: 1.42904070976358

Fineness Ratio: 0.291121727306119

TaperRatio: 1

Cross Sectional Area: 1.22718498140885

Cross Sectional Tapered Area: 0

Major-minor axis ratio: 0.999999713897787

Centroid: [0, -0.025105819106102, 0]
[LOG 02:12:12.520] Part: KM Short Storage Shroud Transforms: 9
[LOG 02:12:13.490] km.com.op.11.shr(Clone) added to ship - part count: 3
[LOG 02:12:13.491] stage count is: 0

Notice the seven second delay between "Km attachment tweaker is running!!!" and "Part: KM Short Storage Shroud Transforms: 9"

I downloaded from the link in the OP only a couple of hours ago. Any ideas? :)

EDIT: Actually this doesn't happen with all the parts. The inflatable raft parts seem to be fine, and the inflatable heat shield seems to be fine, but the shrouds and cargo bays have problems. Looks like it's definitely just the ones with the tweakable scale thing.

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Hmmm yeah I've had the same problem with the VAB editor freezing for a couple of seconds every time I pick up one of the new parts. I checked the log and found the moment when I picked up the part from the list, here's all the details from that section:

[LOG 02:12:05.699] Km attachment tweaker is running!!!
[LOG 02:12:12.518] Part: KM Short Storage Shroud Transforms: 9
[LOG 02:12:12.519] KM Short Storage Shroud: Geometry model created; Size: [1.25, 0.36390221118927, 1.25000035762787], LD [1.25, 1.25000011920929, 0], UD [1.25, 1.25000011920929, 0]

Surface area: 1.42904070976358

Fineness Ratio: 0.291121727306119

TaperRatio: 1

Cross Sectional Area: 1.22718498140885

Cross Sectional Tapered Area: 0

Major-minor axis ratio: 0.999999713897787

Centroid: [0, -0.025105819106102, 0]
[LOG 02:12:12.520] Part: KM Short Storage Shroud Transforms: 9
[LOG 02:12:13.490] km.com.op.11.shr(Clone) added to ship - part count: 3
[LOG 02:12:13.491] stage count is: 0

Notice the seven second delay between "Km attachment tweaker is running!!!" and "Part: KM Short Storage Shroud Transforms: 9"

I downloaded from the link in the OP only a couple of hours ago. Any ideas? :)

EDIT: Actually this doesn't happen with all the parts. The inflatable raft parts seem to be fine, and the inflatable heat shield seems to be fine, but the shrouds and cargo bays have problems. Looks like it's definitely just the ones with the tweakable scale thing.

Did you have tweakscale installed before?

I never had that here. Can you post a mod list?

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Did you have tweakscale installed before?

I never had that here. Can you post a mod list?

Oh, yeah, hmm, maybe that's the problem. I did have Tweakscale installed before, and I didn't copy the Tweakscale directory out of your install directory. I'm generally in the habit of leaving Tweakscale, Toolbar etc in the install directories when I install new mods, and installing the newest version directly, which is why I didn't bring across your version of Tweakscale. Could that have caused the problem?

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Oh, yeah, hmm, maybe that's the problem. I did have Tweakscale installed before, and I didn't copy the Tweakscale directory out of your install directory. I'm generally in the habit of leaving Tweakscale, Toolbar etc in the install directories when I install new mods, and installing the newest version directly, which is why I didn't bring across your version of Tweakscale. Could that have caused the problem?

Someone else had reported that this was the problem for him. Maybe you give it a try.

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Someone else had reported that this was the problem for him. Maybe you give it a try.

I'll try it tomorrow, but I don't think that's going to be it, because the four plugin files in the Klockheed Martian directory are identical to the ones I already have installed for TweakScale (confirmed with MD5 file hashes).

Here are the warning messages I got, including the longer-than-usual delay, when I went from the editor to launching my ship "Test":

[LOG 03:23:20.601] Loading ship from file: C:/Steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program/KSP_Data/../saves/Career2/Ships/VAB/Auto-Saved Ship.craft
[WRN 03:23:20.772] Part probeStackLarge_4293787442 cannot load module #8. It only has 8 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:20.789] Part KW2mDecoupler_4293787398 cannot load module #3. It only has 3 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:20.807] Part 2.5.Heatshield_4293787350 cannot load module #4. It only has 4 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:26.504] Part km.com.op.1.end_4293787300 cannot load module #2. It only has 2 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.347] Part km.com.op.1.cro_4293787254 cannot load module #5. It only has 5 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.347] Part km.com.op.1.cro_4293787254 cannot load module #6. It only has 5 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.374] Part IR.Extendatron.Basic_4293787078 cannot load module #3. It only has 3 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.378] Part IR.Adapter.0625ToTrussSmall_4293787042 cannot load module #1. It only has 1 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.394] Part stackDecouplerMini_4293786902 cannot load module #2. It only has 2 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.425] Part kethane.sensor.1m_4293786874 cannot load module #4. It only has 4 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.451] Part IR.Pivotron.NinetyOffset_4293786826 cannot load module #3. It only has 3 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.477] Part IR.Pivotron.NinetyOffset_4293786790 cannot load module #3. It only has 3 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.502] Part IR.Pivotron.NinetyOffset_4293786720 cannot load module #3. It only has 3 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.528] Part IR.Pivotron.NinetyOffset_4293786684 cannot load module #3. It only has 3 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.532] Part IR.Segment.TrussSmall.0m625_4293766498 cannot load module #1. It only has 1 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.535] Part IR.Segment.TrussSmall.0m625_4293766350 cannot load module #1. It only has 1 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.561] Part IR.Rotatron.Right_4293754748 cannot load module #3. It only has 3 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.586] Part IR.Rotatron.Right_4293751668 cannot load module #3. It only has 3 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.592] Part SCANsat.Scanner24_4293741846 cannot load module #2. It only has 2 modules defined
[WRN 03:23:32.598] Part SCANsat.Scanner_4293739926 cannot load module #2. It only has 2 modules defined
[LOG 03:23:32.614] Test loaded!

(notice the 6 second delays at the 5th line)

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Someone else had reported that this was the problem for him. Maybe you give it a try.

That was me and the the old tweak scale wasn't at fault --- the problem is only showing up with certain parts and my quick test didn't hit any of those parts. If I have time tonight I'll setup a clean install of KSP w/ KM special parts and start adding in mods from my current install until it breaks. Based on the log entry it might be an interaction with FAR.

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It's definitely not far. I wasn't able to reproduce the issue on a clean install, but I did discover that the lag appears to happen only with an existing save, not a new save. Archive of logs and my persistence file is available here. This is with v.2 and only affects parts with tweak scale enabled. Haven't tested v.3 but am going to assume it still has the same problem. To be clear I don't think this is a problem with KM parts -- there's something else going on in my save that just does not like tweak scale.

ACC - Is your problem also happening with an existing save?

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I get still the loading lag issue in VAB and on vessel load. I installed tweakscale via your pack and had it not installed before.

And the attach nodes of the cargo bay are may not accurate. You can look between them, if you attach two together.

edit: sorry, just saw I still use v0.2

edit2: updated. still loading lag in v0.3

ACC - Is your problem also happening with an existing save?

I'm using it on an existing save, yes. Not tried on a new save yet.

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i get this error due to the cargo bay also it causes all mods to null reference when i lauch with it on the ship. also destroys the wold leaving a black hole in my game.

Km attachment tweaker is running!!!

(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d3d49558e4d408f4/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 53)

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object

at TweakScale.TweakScale.moveNode (.AttachNode node, .AttachNode baseNode, ScalingFactor factor, Boolean movePart) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

at TweakScale.TweakScale.updateByWidth (ScalingFactor factor, Boolean moveParts) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

at TweakScale.TweakScale.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

and here is ksp.log

[LOG 12:36:15.668] Km attachment tweaker is running!!!

[EXC 12:36:15.705] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object

tweak scale works but it gets erroed out for some reason from the cargo bay causeing game to go haywire when u lauch with the part on a ship

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i get this error due to the cargo bay also it causes all mods to null reference when i lauch with it on the ship. also destroys the wold leaving a black hole in my game.

Km attachment tweaker is running!!!

(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d3d49558e4d408f4/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 53)

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object

at TweakScale.TweakScale.moveNode (.AttachNode node, .AttachNode baseNode, ScalingFactor factor, Boolean movePart) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

at TweakScale.TweakScale.updateByWidth (ScalingFactor factor, Boolean moveParts) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

at TweakScale.TweakScale.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

and here is ksp.log

[LOG 12:36:15.668] Km attachment tweaker is running!!!

[EXC 12:36:15.705] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object

tweak scale works but it gets erroed out for some reason from the cargo bay causeing game to go haywire when u lauch with the part on a ship

Just tried with FAR and some other mods but there wasn't any lag nor any null pointer problems. Can you send me a craft file and a list of mods you use? I'd love to reproduce this. A minimal mod config (least number of mods it happens with) would also be good.

Edit: This is interesting. Things start laging when I switched to career mode. On a vanilla install the parts work quite well without any lag... Now trying with FAR.

Edit: It seems to come from Tweakscale alone. Removing tweakscale fixes the lag. Need to try more tomorrow.

Edit: The science configs in tweakscale seem to slow things down. Once I remove the techRequired parameter from the tweakscale module everything works fine.

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Love the new Skylab part! Thanks dtobi for it.

Do you plan on IVA's for it?

I am on it. I would like it to somewhat resemble the actual skylab but it won't be a scale model. It will be a bit simpler. Currentl it still looks very raw:

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