[1.1.x] Speedy's Hex Truss System

[JewelShisen]

Just over a week ago:

Patience! Many modders have lives!

That is why if you notice I was being polite and simply asking if any progress had been made. I wasn't demanding an update.

[Insanitic]

Is there any chance of Tweakscale integration with the latest version?

[JewelShisen]

Hey just checking to see if there is any chance of this having been worked on at all.

[SpeedyB]

Haven't had time to work on this for the last few months. I need to finish the parts for Station Science first.

Hopefully I'll have time once school starts. (I thankfully don't have to work a job and do school at the same time this semester so I might have some time)

[JewelShisen]

Haven't had time to work on this for the last few months. I need to finish the parts for Station Science first.

Hopefully I'll have time once school starts. (I thankfully don't have to work a job and do school at the same time this semester so I might have some time)

Yay! I love these parts.

[seanth]

I'm really enjoying these. Do you have a github up for part adjustments? Specifically the amounts held by the water/waste water truss and the LF/Ox truss

Suggested volume changes based on the tank sizes:

HexTrussLongWater

max WasteWater: ~600

max Water: ~600

HexTrussLongTank

max Oxidizer: ~800

max LiquidFuel: ~400

These are based on guesses on volumes when comparing the tanks to squad tanks. The truss with oxidizer and liquid fuel is not a great match for those fuels though. Most squad engines use Ox:LF at a ratio of something like 1.2, so it should probably be 800 oxidizer and 666 liquid fuel.

Edited September 30, 2015 by seanth

[Noah_Blade]

Give me about 2 days I will recreate opportunity/spirit rovers and or Mars Path finder with this

[renejant]

This mod needs an update for 1.0.5
It seems the mod aint showing up in the parts menu...

[kerbiloid]

[quote name='renejant']This mod needs an update for 1.0.5
It seems the mod aint showing up in the parts menu...[/QUOTE]
At my side it works fine in 1.0.5.
Of course, I've updated it for 1.0.4:
- converted textures to dds with Lilleman's DDS converter;
- in all cfg files, in "node_stack_bottom" line, replaced fifth parameter with its negative value: "-1" instead of "1".

The same with its lesser cousin - Kommit Octotruss.

[renejant]

[quote name='kerbiloid']At my side it works fine in 1.0.5.
Of course, I've updated it for 1.0.4:
- converted textures to dds with Lilleman's DDS converter;
- in all cfg files, in "node_stack_bottom" line, replaced fifth parameter with its negative value: "-1" instead of "1".

The same with its lesser cousin - Kommit Octotruss.[/QUOTE]

I see what i did wrong, i installed it the wrong way.
i just installed it as "Gamedata/Hextruss" instead of "Gamadata/SPD/...." Thats fixed now! :)

And i use the Active Texture Reduction mod for compressing all those textures...

Could you explain to me why i should change those parameters in the config files? Didnt had those problems with it before while i played it in 0.90...
(havent played awhile, just picked the game up this week)

[kerbiloid]

[quote name='renejant']Could you explain to me why i should change those parameters in the config files? Didnt had those problems with it before while i played it in 0.90...[/QUOTE]
Since 1.0.4 the node orientation is taken into account more strictly.
So in almost any pre-1.0.4 part: "node_stack_top" 5th parameter should be positive (usually 1.0), in "node_stack_bottom" - negative (usually -1.0).
(Unless that is a part with a somewhat tricky geometry.)
Without this the attaching node orientation is inverted or so, and the part can not be attached in a correct manner.

[renejant]

[quote name='kerbiloid']Since 1.0.4 the node orientation is taken into account more strictly.
So in almost any pre-1.0.4 part: "node_stack_top" 5th parameter should be positive (usually 1.0), in "node_stack_bottom" - negative (usually -1.0).
(Unless that is a part with a somewhat tricky geometry.)
Without this the attaching node orientation is inverted or so, and the part can not be attached in a correct manner.[/QUOTE]

Ok thanks for the info, ill change the numbers accordingly..! :)

[RYU AZUKU99]

Cant wait for this mod to get an update to 1.0.5.

[SpeedyB]

I'm going to try to get a new version of this out around the time (or a little after) the new version of KSP comes out.

I'm planning on doing a slight upgrade of the models and textures to be more in line with the style of the new parts.

I was also thinking of the size of the parts.  The original Hex Truss mod had trusses that where in between the small and large sizes.  Should I make my parts that size or should I keep them the same size?  I think that they may look better if they are a bit smaller than the usual station parts.

What do you guys think?

[Surefoot]

Hey good to know you're alive

About sizes, if anything i'd use a longer one (double the length of the longest one or 1.5x) but that's maybe just me building gigantic cargoes ! Other than that current sizes are fine.

[DStaal]

I think your current size is fine, although I wouldn't mind a set of smaller trusses as well, one size down, for small probes and such.

What I'd really like to see though is some pieces that have pressurized sections for Kerbals to move through, using Connected Living Spaces.  Even just a hub that lets you pass through the 'round' sections.

[Stone Blue]

Hmmm... SpeedyB, have you considered making these TweakScale compatible?...

And its GREAT to see you're still trying to keep these alive...

[Starwaster]

8 hours ago, SpeedyB said:

I'm going to try to get a new version of this out around the time (or a little after) the new version of KSP comes out.

I'm planning on doing a slight upgrade of the models and textures to be more in line with the style of the new parts.

I was also thinking of the size of the parts.  The original Hex Truss mod had trusses that where in between the small and large sizes.  Should I make my parts that size or should I keep them the same size?  I think that they may look better if they are a bit smaller than the usual station parts.

What do you guys think?

I think you should resist the urge to change them very much. Maybe some texture work, but otherwise, don't play around with them too much.

That's what I think.

[SpeedyB]

OK.  Size stays the same! I will make a longer one as well.

Another reason that I'm remodeling and retexturing the parts is so that I can make better use of textures.  The more I can re-use textures the less I have to texture and that will save time.

[Jansn67]

Hope that these HexTrusses will survive to 1.1

[OopsThatNotWork]

On 3/19/2016 at 10:25 AM, Jansn67 said:

Hope that these HexTrusses will survive to 1.1

Any idea if they have?

[SpeedyB]

I haven't tested them in the pre-release yet.  There might be some minor tweaks necessary but the current parts are so basic I don't think anything will break in the new version.

[Table]

Yeah I just tried the current version and it works fine, except that textures, are a little bit "outdated"

[SpeedyB]

I'm still thinking about how I want to change the trusses.  I can either keep the overall style or go with something slightly different like the trusses in HabTech.

I might go with something between the two.

Any thoughts?

[swjr-swis]

21 minutes ago, SpeedyB said:

I'm still thinking about how I want to change the trusses.  I can either keep the overall style or go with something slightly different like the trusses in HabTech.

I might go with something between the two.

Any thoughts?

 

If you mean the panels, a bit more like the HabTech ones would be welcome instead of the full white.

But for the open trusses, the framework itself, I rather like yours better. The HabTech ones do look nice, but they seem a bit too.. too solid. Too much mass for their function. I rather prefer the minimal and open look of yours.