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21 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said:

But it does go to show that even at 250 klicks, air still has a significant effect.

Even ISS still need reboosts.

Manned spacecrafts routinely operate at 200-300 km, except for space stations (though Salyut 7 is quoted to have a perigee of 210 km height).

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4 hours ago, YNM said:

Salyut 7 is quoted to have a perigee of 210 km height

Original orbit 345x354 km.

Before deorbiting was rised up to 492x474. spent there several years in unmanned mode, later got down into the atmosphere due to the solar activity and communication equipment failure.

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20 minutes ago, Reactordrone said:

About the same condition as the boosters normally are after impact. A bit flattened but still recognizable.

Some of the cargo, if there is any stored in the orbital module, might have survived and some of it might still be usable depending on what it was.

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12 hours ago, kerbiloid said:

that site later posted this: https://translate.google.com.tr/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=https://www.interfax.ru/russia/633892&edit-text=

sounds like they damaged a valve sensor, wonder if it was the oxygen valve like we all suspected 

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@razark@Ultimate Steve Mir-era Soyuz ships have switched to an ODU architecture: like the Buran, it feeds the RCS and the main thruster(s) from the same tankage of (in Soyuz's case, UDMH-NTO, while Buran used syntin-lOx).This helps remove the need for the elaborate dual-nozzle backup UDMH-NTO engine and replace it with prograde RCS thrusters.

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7 hours ago, insert_name said:

wonder if it was the oxygen valve like we all suspected 

As the lateral booster has the oxygen tank on top, and afaik the oxygen remains push it from the central booster, probably so.

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3 minutes ago, kerbiloid said:

It... it wasn't the same guy who hammered the sensor in on the Proton, was it?

Spoiler

Irony that I got a huge, annoying, unavoidable Chevrolet ad on a Russian website...

 

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1 hour ago, kerbiloid said:

They say that they've found who did it.

Due to the imperfections of translations and the bourbon, this (and the headline) sounds a bit accusatory.  Are they saying this was an accidental incident, or a deliberate act?

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3 minutes ago, razark said:

Due to the imperfections of translations and the bourbon, this (and the headline) sounds a bit accusatory.  Are they saying this was an accidental incident, or a deliberate act?

The assembling specialists listed in a log made mistake(s) while assembling.

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Just now, kerbiloid said:

The assembling specialists listed in a log made mistakes while assempbling.

Thanks for the clarification. 

Mistakes happen, but if they were saying this was a deliberate act, on top of the Soyuz hole, it would be very alarming.

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45 minutes ago, razark said:

Mistakes happen, but if they were saying this was a deliberate act, on top of the Soyuz hole, it would be very alarming.

Even if they are both mistakes, two such mistakes getting made in a relatively short period of time, and then covered up (or at least not adequately reported and followed up) is a problem.  And the work culture/environment that allows that to happen on mission critical space hardware probably isn't something that can be easily and quickly fixed.

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10 hours ago, AVaughan said:

Even if they are both mistakes, two such mistakes getting made in a relatively short period of time, and then covered up (or at least not adequately reported and followed up) is a problem.  And the work culture/environment that allows that to happen on mission critical space hardware probably isn't something that can be easily and quickly fixed.

Once is an anomaly. Twice is a coincidence. Thrice is a pattern... <_<

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27 minutes ago, MaverickSawyer said:

I know this one more as "happenstance, conspiracy, enemy action", but same basic concept. lol.gif

I didn’t wanna be the first one to use the C word-_-

But this is all clearly a part of Elon Musk’s grand conspiracy to become Lord of Mars. 

  1. First, he gets Constellation cancelled and rolled into SLS, which is forever mired in development hell. 
  2. He establishes himself as the underdog fighting against Big Space, cuz who doesn’t like an underdog?
  3. Antares. 
  4. He gets Starliner mired down with fuel leaks and stability issues. 
  5. Then he slowly picks apart Roscosmos with a series of increasingly dramatic accidents with just enough danger to engage the media, entirely plausible due to the economic situation over there. 
  6. He engages more public support with a dorky yet lovable rich guy to shoot artists around the moon in his megarocket.
  7. And to defeat Bezos himself, he goes after Bezos’ own target: the moon. 

 

Now he just needs to arrange another “accident” to ground Soyuz for the long term, then gets to revel in public appreciation as the hero when he’s the only one who can send people and cargo to the space station.

The Lizard Men will be most pleased  

 

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4 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said:

And to defeat Bezos himself, he goes after Bezos’ own target: the moon. 

He doesn’t need to defeat Bezos to become Lord of Mars, because Bezos has no interest in Mars.

Cool optional quest though. Gives a lot of XP for future Mars conquest.

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