CobaltWolf

Very interesting. I love finding out all the interesting abandoned designs. I'll try and support as many as I can but any bespoke Super Juno / Juno V parts will probably be folded into the Saturn 1 development, since the tankage is the same just different mounting plates. E-1 is interesting. Would it be like a... maybe 1.7m engine? 1.875m? That will definitely get done. I hesitate to say whether or not you could actually use BDB Redstone and Juno tanks to make a Saturn 1 stage. I think the various roundings in sizing would add up and make everything not fit together. The Saturn 1 / Juno V first stage will be getting a bespoke tank(s) anyways since it deserves a unique paint job. @NecroBones dern. Looks like I'm striking it out alone. @sp1989 There are several people (officially @Sgt.Shutesie and unofficially @Foxxonius Augustus, I believe others) who have been working on craft files. One of my goals for the next update is to find some better way to organize the mod. Perhaps I'll experiment tonight with changing the manufacturer names so that the different rocket series can be separated using the manufacturer tabs? I've been saying that for a while but haven't actually sat down to try it. Part of my insistence on not including such things was that while the parts are all based on real rockets, I would rather see them used in a lego mindset, with parts mix and matched from all over. But it seems the majority of the players swing the opposite way, so I'll try and better support that in the future. @Mad Rocket Scientist I... Uh... Think @A1Ch1 was working on some. The most recent post regarding it is here. I would also love to see RO configs happen for the mod, but I am primarily an artist and need a ton of help just to get the stock configs working + balanced. Also, my night class got cancelled. All this talk on the forums, combined with the progress I've made on the Juno parts, has returned some of my KSP hype. I'm still trying to get some work done at the lab but stay tuned for a post re: streaming tonight. Will try and stream as late as I can. ALSO as a result of all the hubub that keeps happening here IRL, other people keep replying, which means I have to reply to them in this post, which gives the next person time to post... etc etc. So I'm hitting submit now. Laters!

Yes, that works for dimensions but not necessarily things like fuel amounts, because those are volumetric / cubic scaling. And the fuel amount determines weight, which determines how much thrust an engines need to make a stage flyable. Again, my example would be that the Mainsail's thrust isn't twice that of a reliant. EDIT2: Also I tend to favor 62.5% scaling for rocket parts as that makes things line up better with KSP sizes which are factors of 0.625. EDIT: Yo we hot right now

You have to remember scaling is exponential since you're dealing with area (or rather, volume). That's why a Mainsail's thrust isn't 2x a Reliant's. EDIT: @NecroBones , the only large sizes you use in SpaceY are 3.75m, 5m, and 7.5m, correct?

... no. Just talking about it. I still don't have a good idea of what scaling I'm going to use for the Apollo stuff. And the more people ask for it the farther it gets pushed pack EDIT: To respond to your edit, I think Saturn V 1st/2nd stage might wind up being 6.25m.

Well like I said the H-1 is coming, if only because it's a cool looking engine and it'd be a shame not to include it. But that'd put the H1 at... I dunno, say 250-300 thrust. Which in the Saturn 1 configuration would give 2000-2400 thrust. Saturn 1... well, 3.75m is small but I'm not sure how much it matters because frankly I think 3.75m looks fine. Correct scaling would be 4.125m. Is 2000-2400 thrust enough to lift a 3.75m rocket?

And as a result, I'm starting to fear that I'll have to actually make the darn thing instead of shunting it off to him. Darn (EDIT: I'd actually rather see a revamp of Proton and a finished Ariane V anyways) On a more serious note, wouldn't the sizing for everything else remain the same? The kerbal scale diameters of everything else assume a 0.625-ish scale, and isn't it just the Soyuz that is small?

I was more referring to people that were getting excited for Saturn / Apollo. Hype is good and all but getting excited doesn't make it happen faster. H-1 is actually getting made for the Atlas update (after Juno) so by the time I get to Saturn 1 all I'll have to model are the fuel tanks. Though I suppose I'd have to move such engines to a different shared folder or some such... The LR-87-1 is going to get attachment / shroud I just need to get around to it. Making Super Juno / Juno V first stage might be hard even if you have the correct tanks just because of the attach nodes. I'm a little confused though... exactly how powerful would an H-1 have to be in game in order for a Saturn B-1 to work? That thing is huge... the second stage is 4 Atlas booster engines (or two Titan 1 engines? unclear).

Alledgedly @Jso has a Real Fuels config for Bluedog Design Bureau.

But... I already put so much time into Atlas and Delta so you wouldn't have to! *cough*doitbeale*cough* Do you mean the capsule itself or Gemini as a whole (including the SM?)

Anyone planning on doing ALSEP using the SEP mod?

Oh dear. To preempt any hype that my be directed towards Saturn/Apollo... no. They're really not that close. I know that on paper it says they're only 2 (3?) releases away (not counting any split releases to keep updates somewhat regular) but they're really not. I look at that list and I see a couple hundred parts and god knows how much work before we get to Saturn/Apollo. My current goal is to try and get this update finished by the end of March, the next by the end of May, and the 1.0 release by the end of the summer (which coincidentally would come close to the one year anniversary of the mod). EDIT: Those estimates are somewhat conservative to allow for distractions, either in the form of work, other games, or other mod projects that I take on (expanding SEP, for example).

I keep meaning to yell at @Beale to finish that... Actually, tell ya what. @Beale, I'll trade you the Vexin A and Astris stages from Europa for a Gemini. EDIT: To clarify (bit late I know) but Tantares LV has Black Arrow, Black Prince, and Prospero.

Hey! Long time no see Kal. Agena Docking Port and Antenna are planned for the next update but I've been slammed with schoolwork so progress is slow.

@Foxxonius Augustus cool video! I think the cameras would be upset with you for point them at the sun though I'll have to make some solar science parts at some point. I felt pretty spent with my IRL stuff so I put in a couple hours before my night class. The major Juno tanks are unwrapped. The engines, well... need some more work.

Aight, back to UV unwrapping Juno then.

@Beale any chance you can have those diagonal fairings on the engines? That's my favorite part of the Proton design.

Thanks! Just going to have to work through it tomorrow. I really would like to stream tonight but it wouldn't start until late-ish (after 8PM EST) and I'm not sure how long I'll be able to work for. In any case, tonight I'm planning on starting to UV unwrap either Diamant or Juno (opinions?) to try and start moving this update forward. I think once I get the pipeline flowing again things will return to normal around here, albeit still at a slower pace.

Bluedog Design Bureau has not one, but three cameras. The leftmost one is a starting tech film camera that can hold 4 'samples' (ie same has having 4 film resource)

Midterms feedback came back. Generally speaking, the better you did, the longer the feedback since the professors nitpick more in depth instead of saying the general things you did wrong. Mine were two sentences each. T.T Looks like I'm not out of the woods yet. @Sgt.Shutesie What about Odin + Plus? So it'd be Odinus or Odus. @davidy12 I have to remake that capsule, or at least the textures. It was inspired by the HGR part but I made it from scratch. I can't just include OrionKermin's IVA, and at any rate, it requires additional props that would add to the ram footprint of BDB. Speaking of the Karrot IVA, @stratochief66 you're right the portraits in the lower right hand corner don't appear since there's no IVA set for the part. I'll have to set it to the default IVA so that you get portraits. I'm not planning on doing any IVAs for my stuff, since I honestly have no desire to do them and the people that genuinely care (ie would actually run missions from inside and not just look inside once or twice) are a very small minority. If anyone is really upset by that I invite them to make IVAs for the pods and I'll include their IVAs + credit them appropriately. On the topic of the EVA oddities, the Karrot was the first capsule I made and there are some quirks related to setting them up in Unity. I can take another look at it, it sounds like I mostly just need to adjust the ladder and capsule colliders in Unity.

Good to know that our Gemini sizing plans work then! On the topic of an intermediate size for large parts, I believe 3.125 has to be used for something or other in BDB. I remember seeing that I'd have to use it when I was running some numbers a couple weeks back. So you wouldn't bee alone if you chose to use it. EDIT: @spacecookie ugh thanks for reminding me how awful the texture on the Mariner 4 antenna is. It looks like a pair of striped stockings dangling from the ship... I definitely need to push that redux up in my priorities.

I'm sorry but KJR is absolutely a must have mod, if only for performance reasons - you'll only have to use struts in extreme circumstances, allowing for much more realistic rockets. Heck, that along with Hyperedit and KER are the only mods I have on my dev install. I just bring it up because there's really no way for Beale to fix it on his end, but KJR is a universal fix for wiggly rockets from ANY mod.

Name it the same convention as the real life one. The names of the relevant parts are Odin, Alpha, Alphastar, etc. So Odin, Odin-Alpha, Odin-Alphastar. Odinad? Idk bout that one, probably going to have to come up with something. I'm also unsure of what to do with Agena since that is named RMA. Somewhat related, but the Thor-Able and Thor-Ablestar can have those triangle fins on them. Well, you asked for it. BDB 0.1 TODO JUNO PROJECT PROBES (can be accomplished on one 512 texture, depending on how many extra probes are added) > Explorer 1 probe (redux) <modeled> > Pioneer 1 probe core <modeled> >Pioneer 1 SRB cluster <modeled> > Pioneer 4 probe core > Explorer 11 probe core <modeled> > Baby Sargent SRB (redux) <modeled> > 1 rocket <modeled> > 3 rocket cluster <modeled> > 11 rocket cluster (perhaps use less for improved visuals) <modeled> > Decouplers for Explorer <modeled> > .3125m decoupler for 3 cluster <modeled> > .625m decoupler for 11 cluster <modeled> > .125m decoupler for 1x sargent JUNO 1 (can be accomplished on one 1024 texture) -- > Redstone engine (redux) > Redstone engine (naked variant?) > Short Redstone Tank (base on redstone missile - includes little fins) > Juno 1 tank (lower part of Redstone tank) > Redstone Triangle Fins (w/thrust vanes) - THIS MIGHT NOT HAVE TO BE REDONE <modeled> > 1.25m > 0.625m adapter <modeled> > Antares SRB (Redstone-Sparta second stage) <modeled> > Kalcyone SRB (Redstone-Sparta 3rd stage, kick motor) <modeled> > Redstone Launch Clamp JUNO 2 (can be accomplished on one 1024 texture) <modeled> > 1.7m Main Fuel Tank (~75% of Juno 2 length) <modeled> > 1.7m Secondary Fuel Tank (Remaining length of tank) <modeled> > 1.7m Engine Fairing <modeled> > 1.25m S-3D engine <modeled> > 1.7m > 1.5m adapter <modeled> > 1.5m > 0.9375m adapter <modeled> > Exhaust Vernier (see reference material) for roll control -- > Jupiter launch... shroud thing. Animate opening. JUNO UPPER STAGES (one 512 texture) <modeled> > 45kn second stage JPL engine <modeled> > 6Kn thirds stage JPL engine > 1.25m Second stage fuel tank > 1.25m 3rd stage tank > 1.25m exposed 3rd stage tank DIAMANT PROJECT DIAMANT ROCKET <modeled> >1.25m first stage engine <modeled> >Fins w/ verniers <modeled> >1.25m 1st stage fuel tank <modeled> >1.25m > 0.625m Adapter Tank <modeled> >2nd stage SRB <modeled> >3rd stage SRB <modeled> >Asterix probe core <modeled> >D1-A Probe Core <modeled> >D1-A Solar Panels VANGUARD ROCKET (folded into here for organizational purposes) //done >Adjust mesh of the first stage engine >Short generic 0.9375m tank (half ablestar length) -- >Navajo/GE first stage engine -- >Twin-engine 1.5m (remesh using Titan engines + textures) -- >Tiny second stage RCS boosters that have little nitrogen bottles AUTONOMOUS VESSEL PROJECT PROBE CORES <modeled> >Sputnik 3 >Pioneer 6 >TIROS 1 <modeled> >Ariel 3 ANTENNAS > ANTENNA REDUX >Mariner 2 antenna >Mariner 4 antenna >Vanguard antenna (make easier to fit inside fairing) >Helical antenna >Dipole antenna (remove?) >Dome Antenna >LO antenna (mostly just fix textures) <modeled> >KD2 antenna (Make extendable and move up tech tree) >Scimatar Antenna (needs more polygons) >Light flip antenna >Heavy flip antenna >Hoop antenna (Explorer 7) <modeled> >Ranger dish antenna <modeled> >Mariner 10 dish >Sputnik 3 Mayak antenna (replaces KD2 as simple low tier antenna?) >Sputnik 3 short range flat antenna (0.3Mm) SCIENCE >Kanopus star tracker >Gamma ray detector UTILITY >Probe service module (mono + batteries) >Big battery pack >Probe service engine (little mono engine - base on Ranger's) >Thermal louvers >Round battery bottoms >Tiny probe decouplers >Explorer 48 solar panels >Voyager RTG >Pioneer RTG DKAP PROJECT TWO-MAN POD >Adjust capsule textures - make lighter, include more white >Make heatshield fairings into decouplers <modeled> >Solar panels (see notebook) >RCS <modeled> >1.5m service module <modeled> >1.25m service engine >Docking nosecone >RCS Parachute module >LES module // >Canonical Gemini SM // >Decoupler for canon GSM //<modeled> >Big G docking adapter //<modeled> >Big G docking module // >Big G passive docking module MINI LANDER >1 man lander cabin >Primary fuel tank + frame >Landing legs >Landing engine >Secondary fuel tanks ORBITAL LABORATORY >1.875m science lab <modeled> >Agena docking port <modeled> >Big 5x RCS >1.875m Living quarters >1.7m Airlock module >TV observation camera (requires science lab) >Exposure panel + experiments (requires science lab, EVA activation) >Station solar panels <modeled> >Agena antenna <modeled> >Station rack antenna MISC TODO > Fix textures on Ranger solar panels > Finish new BDB logo BDB 0.11 TODO ATLAS PROJECT ATLAS 2 >Atlas 2 fuel tanks (any different?) >Atlas 2 SRBs ATLAS SLV >Expanded diameter Atlas tanks >H1 engine (getting this done ahead of time) >4x H1 engine mount ATLAS 3 >1.875m RD-180 >Atlas 3 1.875m fuel tanks ATLAS V >AJ solid rocket boosters VEGA UPPER STAGE >GE40 Vega enginer >Vega fuel tanks CENTAUR >RL-10 Redux? >Long orange centaur tank >Baby centaur (see TimothyC's reference image) >1.5m centaur tank (see Delta K and H1) SURVEYOR >Parts for Surveyor lander DKAP PROJECT >Finish components not included in the 0.1 release BDB 0.12 SATURN PROJECT >Saturn I >Saturn IB >Saturn V APOLLO PROJECT >Apollo CSM >Apollo LEM BDB release 1 SATURN PROJECT >Finish Saturn rocket line >C2, C3, etc >Saturn 1C from ETS APOLLO PROJECT >AAP parts >Skylab >Apollo Venus / Mars expedition >ETS Apollo variations - AARDV, block 3-4-5 CSM BDB release 2 UNKNOWN

Kerbal Joint Reinforcement doesn't help?

@Beale please share your trick. Also, I have noticed some inconsistencies lately with Andegraf. For example, the engines on Redstone and Atlas are wrong. It has been making me question the accuracy of the rest of the site.

Nobody was on and I got asked to run errands with my roommate before he left for his superbowl party.