JoeSchmuckatelli

Giant space death laser /curmudgeon

SBSP... Whatcha'll smokin?

Sounds interesting! Fair winds and following seas!

...can be said about a lot of things. Most every thing, anyway. What we need is something that can be made better in space - something we need down here, but also need to go up there to get the most out of. I'm tired and can't possibly think of what that thing would be. Should be fun to watch what happens (hopefully within my cognitive lifetime!)

Not if its a Virgo ...unless Mercury is in retrograde - then we are fornicated

A very good point. Data sector of the economy is likely to be a continuous growth sector for the foreseeable future. One concern is latency, though. (I started speculation about large scale geosynchronous data farms and then realized that would only be good for relatively static data given signal travel times) Honestly - I hope to see orbital manufacturing become viable, if only to see what the smart folks can come up with! Made in Space Had to share this; look at the last entry from my google search: Idiocracy

F9 reusable is putting, what? ~ 20 tons into space? Presuming SX gets SS working in 2024... just how long is it going to have to compete on F9 levels of lift? (I kinda suspect that 'if you build it, they will come' is a factor. Give SX a reliable heavy-lift craft, and very soon folks will come knocking asking to put comparatively large & heavy stuff into space). ... Of course, that depends on someone inventing a need / service for large structures, craft or missions... but presuming we don't decide to immolate ourselves; it's likely to happen)

... And this is how it starts. {cue The Doors}

I finally figured out why the violin guy gets special treatment before and during an orchestral concert. ...its a baroque tradition. https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/instruments/violin/why-orchestras-have-so-many-violins/#:~:text=The first violin section normally,to play a lower harmony.

What does that get you? (First I'm hearing about this)

I commented in another thread that the move fast and break things method might be difficult to justify when using public funds... But I'm wondering if that's not too traditional thinking. Fact is that SX has proven in the modern era what was done in the early days - that rapid iterations of and a tolerance for failure leading to progress is a working method. I don't know how similar to the US traditional aerospace industry is the European industry - but the problem (of adopting similar methods) seems to be 'who's willing to bear the cost of failure'? There are too many stakeholders. Still - I think that can be overcome. Might take a formal restructuring with the method in mind and sharing of profit and loss... But it could be done.

Monophonic's answer is solid: The other search term is genetic drift. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/06/3/l_063_03.html https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/direct-genetic-evidence-of-founding-population-reveals-story-of-first-native-americans Finally, there is the risk of being separate from the rest of humanity for too long (c.f. Native American population collapse). Side fact - all Native American population had Type O blood

...but what about their farts? https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231120-wildebeest-and-wolves-a-secret-weapon-against-climate-change "As the science shows, the dynamics of carbon uptake and storage fundamentally changes with the presence or absence of animals," ... "...the story of this large antelope reveals the impact wildlife can have on the amount of carbon present in our planet's atmosphere. While it is tempting to look to technical solutions such as renewable energy as the solution to climate change, we may have other allies in the natural world too. Increasing populations of animals such as wildebeest is a largely overlooked, but valuable way of tackling climate change, according to scientists."

This was the first time I noticed I could access S&SF via my regular account. The Temp Alt worked for a few days before this. Just offering this as a 'timestamp' in case it helps figuring out what worked before. (For non-Gargamel readers... apologies for the non-sequitur post)

Yeah - sorry. Just checked Edge (previous report was phone). I'm back to Error 500 on the primary (Alt is defunct). I don't know what you guys did - but once I created the Alt I had access only on the Alt (for the first few days), and then suddenly it was working on both accounts (hence the shout-out I sent you) on SpaceX. Whatever you guys did - I really appreciate your turning on the lights so I could participate in the excitement of IFT-2. Where I am at now is back to being limited to going into sub-subs where I've got a notification link (someone liked/quoted a post) - which will only take me to that particular thread. Thus, if you see me posting on SX or Science News - it's because those are the only threads where I've got notification-assisted access. So - back to multi-platform, multi-browser 500 errors whenever attempting to access the main S&SF sub from my Main - which, is the only account I actually have now since the merge. Good luck!

Looking @tater's vid above They got all but one of the inner ring relit immediately. Visual confirms what they showed on the graphic (Booster graphic 3:19 in Manley's vid) So given that, we can likely have confidence in the rest of the graphic showing how the Raptors lit then failing collapses away from the unlit one. (@ 3:30 - :40) I cannot begin to speculate about the significance - but I do think it noteworthy.

Well... There is the S8 tension. I posted about it in the Science News thread recently. Also, those models don't generally account for baryonic matter. Adding baryonic matter to the sim apparently plays havoc with the results. Both modeling systems are trying to simulate what we see and avoid input bias - but that's apparently hard to do.

I hate to say it... 500 is back.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adh9444 Climate models need to account for how plants adapt to increased CO2 in the environment, and not overstate the impact of temperature. Ground carbon uptake via plants higher than predicted by current models.

@Vanamonde@Vanamonde here's the Alt So long fair Alt... We hardly knew ye!

I figured - but 400 feet and slow vapor = maaaybeee? Ah, but no. My 'water swirling down the drain = Coriolis' is clearly an urban myth. https://www.nsta.org/journals/science-and-children/science-and-children-february-2019/why-does-water-swirl-when-it-goes So... Breeze

Why does the vapor falling down the sides seem to corkscrew around the craft? Coriolis?

They should not go much beyond - the story gets too weird with Worm-Boy.

You know - without knowing it was a render - I knew something was off. The video / tweet that @taterposted showing the staging surprised me with how much frost still clung to both vehicles. I'm still amazed at the quality of the photo / frame of the separation - that is amazing image quality for something at that distance / altitude. Props to the artist, btw, for such an excellent rendering! Question about this - the Booster rotation, specifically. It looks like the engine compartment is the COG - as it pretty much stays in line with Ship as it begins to flip. (or rather, the COG is just above the rockets) is that correct or likely something from the angle?

I'm betting that whatever caused the 'LOX started dropping faster near the end' situation will be the interesting thing to watch. What caught my attention was commentary about losing signal and hoping to test connectivity via Starlink on the SX stream. Because of that I assumed for hours that it was an intentional / automatic destruction based on inability to control the vehicle. But after smarter folks than I pointed out the changed tank expenditures... Something mechanical / structural clearly happened