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Yay! Keen to try the Delta tower later today. In the meantime I've been rebuilding my Titan sub-assemblies with the new XL service tower.

Using Delta as much as possible these days but sometimes you have to bring out the big guns (such as for this Moho probe)

Thanks, this is on 1.7.3, I still havent moved (and wont until Kopernicus/JNSQ and some other stuff). That said the visual set up I'm using is linked in my sig including the custom KS3P config. This is all in game processing I really liked the old CryoTanks but the new ones with the reflective textures are another leap ahead!

The craft files are old and are referencing the old deprecated Titan parts which will be deleted soon. Brand new Titan parts were added in the 1.6 update. 47 new craft files courtesy of @Friznit will be included in the 1.6.2 update coming soon but you can get them here now: https://github.com/CobaltWolf/Bluedog-Design-Bureau/files/3795353/BDBCraftFiles.zip (splotchy parts means they will be deleted in the next major update so you should retire any craft already using them)

Fun and games with CryoTanks

Nice comparison! Hmm, I might tweak the SSME realplume for the next update. The SSME RealPlume is built from the ReStock particle model but I think I made it fainter so it clusters better. But the behaviour can be tweaked at sea level a bit i think. And also perhaps add a separate much smaller and much fainter shock cone further down from the main big shock cone (similar to the top right image of the IRL images)

This has nothing to do with realplume. The error message clearly states this is to with tweakscale. Typically this is caused by troublesome tweakscale patches (BDB's are verified as being OK so this is from some other mod). As the error message says, grab your ksp.log and report on the tweakscale thread where the author is helping people who get this message.

The more the mariner You just turn them sideways and surface attach them to the side. Note the alignment of the white "feet"

Doing a little test of IDCSP. The antenna strength will be buffed so that it can be used just short of GEO (right now it falls short).

A commercial Ariane 3 launch Love the new RCS pods

Like I said, if a MM patch has a FOR in the specifier, that causes the mod the "exist" within the MM patch order. So even though remote tech wasn't installed, the FOR[RemoteTech] caused every single patch that has NEEDS[RemoteTech] to activate becuase MM now thinks RemoteTech is installed. The Remote tech compatibility patches in BDB (with the NEEDS) basically deletes the stock ModuleDataTransmitter, which is fine when RT is installed but definitely not when its not actually installed!

Since you're not using remote tech, there's no harm in deleting the entire cfg. Replacing the FOR with a NEEDS would also fix it but no real point for you.

Looks like a patch in Research Bodies is declaring :FOR[RemoteTech] a FOR module manager pass should only be used by the mod in question, ie, only patches inside RemoteTech should use FOR[RemoteTech]. Because unlike AFTER etc, FOR brings the mod into existence as far as MM is considered. So basically once ResearchBodies ran its FOR[RemoteTech] all the other patches in other mods like BDB and others that had a NEEDS[RemoteTech] got activated (even though RemoteTech isnt actually installed). This should be reported on the research bodies thread or github (if no one else already has). Edit: In the meantime you can look for the offending patch inside Research Bodiess and delete it. Gamedata/REPOSoftTech/ResearchBodies/ResearchBodiesMMRemoteTech.cfg

It should be noted that that guide was written with stock aero and a 2.5/2.7x scale system in mind. I dont know how it applies to FAR + RSS

I think the TWR would be too low at that point with a single RS27a with an extended long tank, need to burn off more fuel. Will have to experiment a bit. Its not an ideal combination of parts for sure. But it looks pretty cool Edit: looks like the RS27A has enough thrust over the LR79 that in this configuration an air start at SRB burnout is actually feasible 0_0

Pretty much. The SOLTANs were overpowered for Delta though esp with the engine ground lit (I dont throttle on ascent) and that was with thrust limited to 66%. For this launcher in the future I might switch to using the RS27A config and air start it at some point during the SRB burn. The Engine Ignitor configs allow for air starting the RS27A variant, all the other variants of the LR79 need external ignitors from a launch clamp. I set up the config this way so that anyone who wants to build MDD Barbarian can still do so even with Engine Ignitor installed

The updated craft files will be included in the next release. If you want to grab them right now without downloading the whole github master, click the link for the zip in the last comment on this thread: https://github.com/CobaltWolf/Bluedog-Design-Bureau/issues/681

Things got a little weird.

lol that would cause minor problems

Looking at the config cache and the patch log, doesnt look like realplume is in fact installed (or possibly incorrectly installed) at least from when you sent me these logs (its not applied to anything).

I couldn't find a clue inside the config.cache, looks like the patch isnt applying. The MM patch log is inside "Kerbal Space Program/Logs/ModuleManager"

Hmm, RS and RS+ do not touch those engines. And I've checked and there are no problems with the realplume patches for those. They work for me. I will need your MMPatch.log and ModuleManager.ConfigCache to see whats going on.

There were some issues previously but it should be resolved with RealPlume-stock v3.0.1

UPDATE RealPlume v13.1.0 and RealPlume-Stock v3.0.1 have been tested and found working in KSP 1.7.3, 1.6.1 and 1.4.5 However Smokescreen (v2.8.7) and Module Manager (4.1.0) ONLY WORKS with KSP 1.8.0 and newer. The github download link has two zips, one with 1.8 dependencies, and one with backwards compatible dependencies. Spacedock only has 1.8 dependencies so if you download from there, please download Smokescreen 2.8.6 and Module Manager 4.0.3 separately. CKAN installations should be fine, CKAN should automatically install the correct versions of the dependencies for your KSP version RealPlume-Stock v3.0.1 Updates Update .version file Fixes Fix SRB configs for ReStock 1.0 Fix Missing History conflict with ReStock Clean up ReStock patches RealPlume v13.1.0 - No change DOWNLOAD [ Github]