AlamoVampire

Sorry late to this party but ive a few. 1. Mechjeb is still not stock. It needs to be stock. That would end the is it cheating bs instantly. Also it does everything ker does AND it has automation. 2. Procedural Fairings are not stock. Sorry but the stock "fairings" are not intuitive, are not easy at all to use, cannot be duplicated easily, do not act like real world fairings during separation. No real fairing turns into confetti. Ever. 3. The horrible "cannot activate engine while stowed" mechanic. Sorry, this is a BAD mechanic. Needs to be removed. Proof its bad? Real world rockets activate engines whilst stowed. Soyuz hot stages, apollo engaged a stage before the fairing was jettisoned.

@Creature It is NOT semantics. They are an advertising company first and foremost. The ONLY reason they are the company on this game is because harvester i think it is was ALLOWED to make this game while still doing his primary job.

@Temstar More power to you if you enjoy flying the same launch, same rendezvous and the same docking time and time again. Same thing for baby sitting long burns. I for one enjoy letting the computer handle tedium for me. To each his own but mechjeb is demonstrably superior to ker.

If it came down to either mechjeb or ker becoming stock, mechjeb is the superior and ONLY choice. There is nothing ker can do that mechjeb cant. The thing is mechjeb also has automation, which ker lacks. Mechjeb when it comes down to it is able to service a broader base with more function than ker. Sorry for the reality of it.

@Malah It was planned, but it seems its being pushed back. @godefroi that's kinda my point. I've said it twice, now thrice: squad has every right to call it quits right here. Right now. They do not owe me or you or anyone any more updates or an explanation should they decide to terminate production on this game. As for beta, beta usually has major features being developed and designed. Ksp still has major features in the pipes. Relay networks, gas planet 2 and a few others. By that standard ksp still is in beta. But that's only one of billions of ways to look.

@zKrieg You mistake me. I speak true when i tell you that (i cant locate the list as it may have been lost when we left vbulletin) but it had a line stating squad is under no obligation to update beyond the current version. Should we as paying customers want quality? Yes. But, you must temper that want with the following knowledge: Squad is NOT a computer game studio. They are an advertising company FIRST. This game is a project that they ALLOWED an employee to work on in his own time. Has it grown since? Yes. But that does not change the fact that only a HANDFUL of people are working on it with tight budget margins. Right now just enjoy what we have, for we never know when or if the game will run out of delta v. this above ALL: be patient

@zKrieg Squads under no obligation to release 1.1. Period. They consider the game full release, even tho, it by all rights is technically beta (at best, because they are STILL adding features). Getting upset is as futile as resisting the Borg. Is this game perfect? Nope. Is it playable? By and large yes. Something to keep in mind, this game is limited on windows to x32 and 4gb unless you hack it. My best advice: be patient, be thankful, enjoy what we have NOW as again they do not HAVE to give us free updates or even update at all.

Mechjeb, novapunch, asteroid day, proc fairings (squads "fairings" are a not fairings if you ask me, unfriendly, unduplicatable, confetti) these are an absolute must imho to become stock.

I dont do career mode. Only the first 3 kerbals we ever had get special care. Val and every "hire" are easily replaced.

@Arugela At this time, doing my level best to remain civil, I dare to say you lack formal training in coding. Why or how can I say this? Simple. Adding a display requires user interface work to alter the current user interface to display the data you request. Furthermore if you had formal coding education you would know that the addition or alteration of code can have unexpected issues with other code that may or may not be seen at first or even be easily found. You would also know that such changes would require significant development time that is to be blunt required elsewhere. I also say it again, if you DO by some chance have the skill, tools and education to back up your claims that this is "simple" you are by all allowed to modify the game by making said alteration yourself. I formally withdrawal myself from further debate on this with you and I also formally wish you well.

@Arugela Sorry. It is not that simple. What you suggest requires a UI overhaul and god only knows what other back end stuff. If this is as "simple" as you would try to have us think, there is nothing stopping YOU @arugela from coding it yourself.

Ive said this before, but, it needs to be said again: career mode atm imho is poorly done. It feels awkward and disjointed. Contracts feel limited and dont really come at you sensically. There is no story at all. Each contract is an island unto itself. I see no reason to play a mode that has to me no depth.

while this sounds simple in theory, i have a feeling the amount of code needed to implement this is not. Add to that the time to adjust ui, any bugs that will come up plus any other issues.

This would be neat! Would reduce part counts some too if im right. OO my 1200th post! Neat!

Novapunch, mechjeb, proc fairings, and so long as i dont have to monkey with module mgr kis/kas. Possibly chatterer too with the above restrictions ofc lol

@Tfin thank you for finding that. im actually stoked about the uptick to x64 for win. means i can finally expand beyond mechjeb, proc fairings and novapunch. yes, i am mechjeb proud and have been since .21!

Citation please. Last i heard squad was uncertain winx64 would make 1.1, so, being "that guy" proof required.

Another random mission from a random player: set up the following at Eeloo, a 4 satellite system in polar orbit as well as an orbital station for 6 to 8 kerbals and a mining and fueling station on the surface with a ferry system to get the processed goods to orbit. Best of luck

@Nathaniel411 Its under edit profile

@Aperture Science The best path is for squad to just make it stock then this will end. Until then this will be like the phases of the moon. A part of our life. Mechjeb proud since .21!

This type of thread is EXACTLY the reason squad MUST, NEED to make mechjeb stock. Once they do this bs of validation seeking will stop. Mechjeb proud since .21!

even tho ive seen these before, they are still awesome videos!

@Blaarkies That would assume that ppl would use it on ALL crafts AND turn on ALL functions at once. That is a huge amount of ifs which is unlikely. We have ion engines for example and for me ive not used them since .25.5. Just cuz a parts there does not mean its used every time or at all even

@seyss I would say mechjeb over ker. Why? Well tbh the autopilot. There is afaik nothing ker can offer that mechjeb cant. Add to that custom windows AND autopilot, it just can NOT be beat. Mechjeb proud since .21!

@Tweeker If i had to hazard a guess? Ppl love to complain. But i agree with you that its a change we dont need. I dont think it will be changed anyway, which is ok by me tbh