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[1.12.x] Cryogenic Engines: Liquid Hydrogen and Methane Rockets! (August 13, 2024)


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I don't know how much support for the mod is there, but maybe someone can help me figure this out.

Some crafts give me a very bad stutter. Like every second game is freezeing for another second. I have one of this crafts, it's only 40 parts all stock except for the first stage which is 4 H250-32 and Engine plate with 3 MR-420 Methane engines but the stutter is SO bad even on the launchpad. If I launch the craft (which is a pain) it goes that way all the time until the moment I decouple that stage, immediately all the stutter disappears.

Having less cryotanks (for instance) reduces stutter, adding makes it worse. Removing engines also helps but not fully.

Also, that happens not with every craft, some have 100+ parts and it doesn't seem to affect it.

I know it's not much but maybe any help how to debug this issue?

 

UPD: I actually have another question for this one. The only reason I use CryoTanks for this one is because I cannot set Methane for usual Rockomax Jumbo-64, there is only Lqd Hydrogen option. Is that supposed to be that way, i.e. only hydrogen and no Methane for stock tanks?

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4 hours ago, Ignalion said:

The only reason I use CryoTanks for this one is because I cannot set Methane for usual Rockomax Jumbo-64, there is only Lqd Hydrogen option. Is that supposed to be that way, i.e. only hydrogen and no Methane for stock tanks?

Vanilla KSP does not have methane. But it also doesn't have hydrogen. The only fuel is "liquid fuel", which is presumed to be RP-1 (kerosene). If you have a liquid hydrogen option for your fuel tank, that's coming from a mod.

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13 minutes ago, mikegarrison said:

Vanilla KSP does not have methane. But it also doesn't have hydrogen. The only fuel is "liquid fuel", which is presumed to be RP-1 (kerosene). If you have a liquid hydrogen option for your fuel tank, that's coming from a mod.

Mhm, B9PartSwitch, it should be (should it?) the part of this mod. Anyway, I can edit tanks so I guess that's where it from. I can choose Cryogenic but it only has LiquidHidrogen but not Methane...

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17 minutes ago, Ignalion said:

Mhm, B9PartSwitch, it should be (should it?) the part of this mod. Anyway, I can edit tanks so I guess that's where it from. I can choose Cryogenic but it only has LiquidHidrogen but not Methane...

If you are editing the mods, that could be the cause of your issues. All I can say is that I have never had the problem you describe.

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@IgnalionWhich Fuel-Switch-Mods do you have? CryoTanks? InterstellarFuelTanks? RealFuels?
I think your stuttering are coming from another mod oder mod-incompatibility.  A log and/or a modlist would be helpful.

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On 7/16/2024 at 2:57 AM, Cheesecake said:

@IgnalionWhich Fuel-Switch-Mods do you have? CryoTanks? InterstellarFuelTanks? RealFuels?
I think your stuttering are coming from another mod oder mod-incompatibility.  A log and/or a modlist would be helpful.

Sure! I have full Nertea setup but I don't think I have any others fuel mods.

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  • 1 month later...

Released 2.0.7

  • Updated CryoTanks to 1.6.6
  • Updated ModuleManager to 4.2.3
  • Updated DynamicBatteryStorage to 2.3.1
  • Updated B9PartSwitch to 2.20.0
  • Bumped KSP versioning
  • Fixed incorrect title for Iguanodon 1.875m variant
  • Add support for VABOrganizer
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