[WIP] [1.1.2] DIRECT - Super-Heavy Launchers - REVAMP RELEASE

[Wahgineer]

Benjee, you have some problems with your tanks:

1: They default to O2 only

2: You need to use a fuel switcher to change the tanks to LH/02

3: The ratio of LH to O2 is way off: you run out of O2 way before LH. It's something like 230000 odd LH to 60000 O2. So either the tanks are off, or the engines don't use fuel right.

 

Edited July 17, 2016 by awsumindyman

[benjee10]

On 16 July 2016 at 1:18 AM, TimothyC said:

@benjee10, is there any chance of getting a short 2 segment SRB so we can use the parts to simulate SRB-X?

Good idea. Will get on that once I get back into development.

19 minutes ago, awsumindyman said:

Benjee, you have some problems with your tanks:

1: They default to O2 only

2: You need to use a fuel switcher to change the tanks to LH/02

3: The ratio of LH to O2 is way off: you run out of O2 way before LH. It's something like 230000 odd LH to 60000 O2. So either the tanks are off, or the engines don't use fuel right.

 

The tanks are designed to work without a fuel switcher installed. It's possible that whatever fuel switcher you're using may be overwriting the values that the mod ships with. I'll take a look into it once I get back into dev but have very limited time right now. 

[Wahgineer]

53 minutes ago, benjee10 said:

Good idea. Will get on that once I get back into development.

The tanks are designed to work without a fuel switcher installed. It's possible that whatever fuel switcher you're using may be overwriting the values that the mod ships with. I'll take a look into it once I get back into dev but have very limited time right now. 

K, thanks.

Edited July 17, 2016 by awsumindyman

[TimothyC]

10 hours ago, benjee10 said:

Good idea. Will get on that once I get back into development.

Cool. Just for the record, I had a typo in my post, and the more-or-less final SRB-X design used three segment SRBs, But I'll happily take whatever you see fit to share!

[Avalon304]

Maybe this is because Im running 1.1.3, but the 926 SRBs appear to be constantly firing and have no effects... they still provide thrust when staged but otherwise appear very very bugged...

 

EDIT: I fixed it... I dont know how I fixed it... but I fixed it..

Edited August 4, 2016 by Avalon304

[legoclone09]

Does the mod work for 1.1.3? It's not listed to work on SpaceDock.

[Stone Blue]

@legoclone09 It should... Its just parts, with NO plugins... AND theres llittle if any difference between 1.1.2 & .3 to affect parts/.cfgs

I havent fully playtested it yet, but I've had it installed for awhile in 1.1.3, and the parts all load up ok...

[legoclone09]

1 minute ago, Stone Blue said:

@legoclone09 It should... Its just parts, with NO plugins... AND theres llittle if any difference between 1.1.2 & .3 to affect parts/.cfgs

I havent fully playtested it yet, but I've had it installed for awhile in 1.1.3, and the parts all load up ok...

Alright, installing time!

[Stone Blue]

@legoclone09 Oh... yeah, I forgot to mention, its not throwing any issues in the logs either, so yeah, should be "relatively" issue free..

[SpaceBadger007]

11 hours ago, legoclone09 said:

Does the mod work for 1.1.3? It's not listed to work on SpaceDock.

works fine for me!

[LordOfMinecraft99]

You may get this question a lot, but is R.O support implemented/ on its way?

[Mekan1k]

.. Ok, I'm just going to assume this works in 1.1.3. Correct me if I am wrong.

[Cheesecake]

43 minutes ago, Mekan1k said:

.. Ok, I'm just going to assume this works in 1.1.3. Correct me if I am wrong.

Yes, it works in 1.1.3

[Turtles4Life]

Will you make an interior or the orion?

[Well]

@benjee10 

Great work, I appreciate the effort on textures "stock a like". The result is awesome. I look for a big launcher for my career 1.2, I hope that you still have some energy for the development of this mod and its possible update. 

Even if except the new categories of the VAB, the mod seems to work already correctly with 1.2.

I am going to have a look on your other mod which one the air so fantastic, really a good job, thank you for the sharing 

[smotheredrun]

I too have been goofing around with these parts in 1.2, and have yet to see any issues.

[davidy12]

@benjee10: Is this mod dead?

[benjee10]

1 hour ago, davidy12 said:

@benjee10: Is this mod dead?

no

[drtedastro]

just stopped by to see what's up.

great mod, looking forward to seeing it kept going.

Cheers.

[PocketBrotector]

Community Tech Tree patch below. (Nodes match SpaceY by diameter.)

Spoiler

// Mk1-3 Command Pod
@PART[directOrion]:NEEDS[CommunityTechTree,DIRECT_LV]
{
    @TechRequired = heavyCommandModules
}

// 5m parts
@PART[5mDecoupler,5mtank*,5mAdapter*,5mEndCap,5mET,5mShuttleCone]:NEEDS[CommunityTechTree,DIRECT_LV]
{
    @TechRequired = experimentalRocketry
}

// 7m parts
@PART[7mtank*]:NEEDS[CommunityTechTree,DIRECT_LV]
{
    @TechRequired = giganticRocketry
}

Edit: And a simple DIRECT flag

Edited November 19, 2016 by PocketBrotector
flag

[smotheredrun]

I still have no issues to report with this mod in 1.2.x......  anyone else?

[PocketBrotector]

These are some neat parts! I especially like the 3.75m command pods. Looking forward to seeing more.

I noticed that the mass ratios on these fuel tanks was not consistent (either with stock or with one another), so I put together a rebalance patch to adjust the mass, capacity, and cost of these tanks.

Operating from the premise that anyone interested in using LqdHydrogen would already have Nertea's CryoTanks, I converted all of the tanks to LFO so that the CryoTanks fuel switcher could do much of the tedious math on my behalf. As an added benefit, this means that we can use the tanks any way we want now - e.g., you can fill an orange external tank with LFO, should you care to. 

I also added some tankage to the adapters, because why not?

Spoiler

//Remove all LqdHydrogen so that CryoTanks can use its fuel switcher
@PART[5mtank_2-5m,5mtank_5m,5mtank_10m,5mShuttleCone,5mEndCap,5mET,7mtank_3m,7mtank_7m,7mtank_15m]:BEFORE[zzz_CryoTanks]{
  !RESOURCE[LqdHydrogen]{}
}

//Kerbodyne S4-A5125 5m Thrust Plate Adapter
//Kerbodyne S4-3 Inline Connection Adapter
@PART[5mAdapter1,5mAdapter2]:BEFORE[zzz_CryoTanks]{
  @category = FuelTank
  @mass = 2.667
  @cost = 3850
  %RESOURCE[LiquidFuel]{
    %amount = 1920
    %maxAmount = 1920
  }
  %RESOURCE[Oxidizer]{
    %amount = 2346.667
    %maxAmount = 2346.667
  }
}

//Kerbodyne S4-520250B 5m LFO Tank
//Olympus S4-1 5m Hydrogen Tank
//Olympus S4-A1 5m Hydrogen Tank Nose Cone
@PART[5mtankB_2-5m,5mtank_2-5m,5mShuttleCone]:BEFORE[zzz_CryoTanks]{
  @mass = 5.333
  @cost = 7700
  %RESOURCE[LiquidFuel]{
    %amount = 3840
    %maxAmount = 3840
  }
  %RESOURCE[Oxidizer]{
    %amount = 4693.333
    %maxAmount = 4693.333
  }
}

//Kerbodyne S4-540510B 5m LFO Tank
//Olympus S4-2 5m Hydrogen Tank
@PART[5mtankB_5m,5mtank_5m]:BEFORE[zzz_CryoTanks]{
  @mass = 10.667
  @cost = 15400
  %RESOURCE[LiquidFuel]{
    %amount = 7680
    %maxAmount = 7680
  }
  %RESOURCE[Oxidizer]{
    %amount = 9386.667
    %maxAmount = 9386.667
  }
}

//Kerbodyne S4-581010B 5m LFO Tank
//Olympus S4-3 5m Hydrogen Tank
@PART[5mtankB_10m,5mtank_10m]:BEFORE[zzz_CryoTanks]{
  @mass = 21.333
  @cost = 30800
  %RESOURCE[LiquidFuel]{
    %amount = 15360
    %maxAmount = 15360
  }
  %RESOURCE[Oxidizer]{
    %amount = 18773.333
    %maxAmount = 18773.333
  }
}

//Olympus S4-B 5m Hydrogen Tank End Cap
@PART[5mEndCap]:BEFORE[zzz_CryoTanks]{
  @mass = 1.333
  @cost = 1925
  %RESOURCE[LiquidFuel]{
    %amount = 960
    %maxAmount = 960
  }
  %RESOURCE[Oxidizer]{
    %amount = 1173.333
    %maxAmount = 1173.333
  }
}

//Olympus S4-JUMBO 5m External Hydrogen Tank
@PART[5mET]:BEFORE[zzz_CryoTanks]{
  @mass = 44
  @cost = 63525
  %RESOURCE[LiquidFuel]{
    %amount = 31680
    %maxAmount = 31680
  }
  %RESOURCE[Oxidizer]{
    %amount = 38720
    %maxAmount = 38720
  }
}

//Kronos S5-1 7m Hydrogen Tank
@PART[7mtank_3m]:BEFORE[zzz_CryoTanks]{
  @mass = 18
  @cost = 26000
  %RESOURCE[LiquidFuel]{
    %amount = 12960
    %maxAmount = 12960
  }
  %RESOURCE[Oxidizer]{
    %amount = 15840
    %maxAmount = 15840
  }
}

//Kronos S5-2 7m Hydrogen Tank
@PART[7mtank_7m]:BEFORE[zzz_CryoTanks]{
  @mass = 36
  @cost = 52000
  %RESOURCE[LiquidFuel]{
    %amount = 25920
    %maxAmount = 25920
  }
  %RESOURCE[Oxidizer]{
    %amount = 31680
    %maxAmount = 25920
  }
}

//Kronos S5-3 7m Hydrogen Tank
@PART[7mtank_15m]:BEFORE[zzz_CryoTanks]{
  @mass = 72
  @cost = 104000
  %RESOURCE[LiquidFuel]{
    %amount = 51840
    %maxAmount = 51840
  }
  %RESOURCE[Oxidizer]{
    %amount = 63360
    %maxAmount = 63360
  }
}

 

 

[davidy12]

@benjee10: What's the news on this pack now?

[VenomousRequiem]

6 minutes ago, davidy12 said:

@benjee10: What's the news on this pack now?

he hasn't posted in a few days it might be dead 

[benjee10]

5 minutes ago, VenomousRequiem said:

he hasn't posted in a few days it might be dead 

r i p

 

 

 

 

(no but actually I'll work on this once super secret @CobaltWolf project is done and habtech is updated)