legoclone09 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 7 hours ago, CobaltWolf said: She actually sent it to me about twenty minutes before you, soooo.... DAMMIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon304 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said: She actually sent it to me about twenty minutes before you, soooo.... 4 minutes ago, legoclone09 said: DAMMIT Rekt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxonius Augustus Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Sometimes Hype needs helpers and one of mine found this. (P.S. Please be kind to the thread and snip the pic!) Edited September 20, 2016 by Foxxonius Augustus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z3R0_0NL1N3 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I much prefer that revised retro design. It's got a Porkalike look to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidy12 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 7 hours ago, Foxxonius Augustus said: Sometimes Hype needs helpers and one of mine found this. (P.S. Please be kind to the thread and snip the pic!) HOLY F**KING S**T!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abrecan Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 7 hours ago, Foxxonius Augustus said: Sometimes Hype needs helpers and one of mine found this. ~snip~ I'd love a poster of that for sure! In the time waiting, the Saturn INT-18 is on the pad: Left the interstage skirt on to act as a giant "bell" to keep the expansion ratio decent for the S-II SL liftoff, x4 UA1205 SRMs to help TWR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomousRequiem Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, davidy12 said: HOLY F**KING S**T!!! 7 hours ago, Foxxonius Augustus said: (P.S. Please be kind to the thread and snip the pic!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidy12 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, Abrecan said: I'd love a poster of that for sure! In the time waiting, the Saturn INT-18 is on the pad: Left the interstage skirt on to act as a giant "bell" to keep the expansion ratio decent for the S-II SL liftoff, x4 UA1205 SRMs to help TWR They made a variant with Minuteman rockets actually. Just S-II and S-IVB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abrecan Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, davidy12 said: They made a variant with Minuteman rockets actually. Just S-II and S-IVB. The INT-19 used Minuteman-1 SRMs (4 to 12 to be exact), the INT-18 used 4 UA1205 or UA1207 SRMs 18 on left, 19 on the right Edited September 20, 2016 by Abrecan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidy12 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Abrecan said: The INT-19 used Minuteman-1 SRMs (4 to 12 to be exact), the INT-18 used 4 UA1205 or UA1207 SRMs 18 on left, 19 on the right Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoSlelge Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, davidy12 said: Interesting Snip the pics. Edited September 20, 2016 by DiscoSlelge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahgineer Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) @CobaltWolf, I had a peak at the roadmap, I noticed that the Saturn C2 was missing. As far as I know, Saturn C2 was the Saturn 1 with a "high-energy" stage squeezed inbetween the S-1 stage and the S-IBN stage. All you'd need to make is a 3.75m x4 1.25m engine mount for the J2's. For the tank, we could just use the stretched S-IVB tank for the Saturn Multibody. Saturn C-3 is just the Saturn C-2, but with the dual F-1, 5m first stage. Edited September 20, 2016 by awsumindyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Yammomoto Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 12 minutes ago, awsumindyman said: @CobaltWolf, I had a peak at the roadmap, I noticed that the Saturn C2 was missing. As far as I know, Saturn C2 was the Saturn 1 with a "high-energy" stage squeezed inbetween the S-1 stage and the S-IBN stage. All you'd need to make is a 3.75m x4 1.25m engine mount for the J2's. For the tank, we could just use the stretched S-IVB tank for the Saturn Multibody. Saturn C-3 is just the Saturn C-2, but with the dual F-1, 5m first stage. I would love one as well. however, I do have an issue with it: The Sarnus 1 first stage can barely hold up an S-IVB with LF/O in it. (this is why Cobalt STRONGLY recommends CryoEngines; LqdHydrogen is much lighter.) However, with a 'High energy' and an 'S-IBN' stage, how could one make it able to take off without CryoEngines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 18 hours ago, pTrevTrevs said: Lots of Saturn hype here, but let me take a moment to share my Pioneer 4 Moon flyby in SSRSS. Hide contents I hate night screenshots as much as the next person, but because the Moon's orbit is inclined relative to Earth when its axial tilt is factored, I had a specific window in which to launch, which just so happened to be at night. If all goes well this will be the first time I've seen the Moon close up in SSRSS or RSS. TLI with the second stage of the SRB cluster. Unfortunately the rocket briefly flew out of control during launch and my efforts to re-correct it resulted in both an alteration of the craft's orbital inclination and the remaining fuel in the first stage to be expended, making it near impossible to adjust the orbit. Because of this I was forced to settle for a somewhat distant flyby of about 1,000,000 km. Next time I think I'll go with a liquid fuel upper stage... Nice! That poor rocket never got enough love in real life (though for justifiable reasons) so it's nice to see it getting used here. And your mission results seem to be par for the course for early US lunar missions. 11 hours ago, Foxxonius Augustus said: Sometimes Hype needs helpers and one of mine found this. ~snip~ (P.S. Please be kind to the thread and snip the pic!) Man I could stare at that for hours... 3 hours ago, Abrecan said: I'd love a poster of that for sure! In the time waiting, the Saturn INT-18 is on the pad: Left the interstage skirt on to act as a giant "bell" to keep the expansion ratio decent for the S-II SL liftoff, x4 UA1205 SRMs to help TWR ~snip~ 2 hours ago, Abrecan said: The INT-19 used Minuteman-1 SRMs (4 to 12 to be exact), the INT-18 used 4 UA1205 or UA1207 SRMs ~snip~ 18 on left, 19 on the right Very cool! I was never really sold on that launcher until now - that looks pretty neat! Enough that I'll forgive you for using the wrong mod. ^.^ There was actually a fair amount of variation in the Saturn II proposals, so you could actually do even more tweaking with it. Makes me wonder when/if BDB will have hydrolox lifting engines. There is the modified LR-87 in the mod right now... 7 minutes ago, awsumindyman said: @CobaltWolf, I had a peak at the roadmap, I noticed that the Saturn C2 was missing. As far as I know, Saturn C2 was the Saturn 1 with a "high-energy" stage squeezed inbetween the S-1 stage and the S-IBN stage. All you'd need to make is a 3.75m x4 1.25m engine mount for the J2's. For the tank, we could just use the stretched S-IVB tank for the Saturn Multibody. Saturn C-3 is just the Saturn C-2, but with the dual F-1, 5m first stage. C-3 used, to my understanding, what would be a 5m version of the S-II stage (notice that it is not differentiated in name between those two variants, and the Saturn V / C-5 second stage) but still with 4 J2s. I know I definitely want to do that version, with that mounting plate. It wouldn't be hard to do some rescaling/tweaking with the mesh to get both versions of the mount. However, I doubt that you'll be able to work it - the Saturn 1B in BDB already has somewhat atrocious TWR, and the real one sat at 1.26 TWR according to Astronautix. I think it's a larger scale version of von Braun's Juno IV proposal, where it would never fly fully fueled, and the fuel loads in the stages would vary to provide the best TWR curve given a payload and its destination. So essentially, not as big/powerful a rocket as it appears just by looking at it. Also, is S-IBN an autocorrect error? C-2 would have used the S-IV stage as a third stage, and then S-V (a modified centaur) as an optional 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahgineer Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) @Rory Yammomoto, IDK, maybe add Prometheus boosters? Edited September 20, 2016 by awsumindyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Yammomoto Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just now, awsumindyman said: @Rory Yammomoto, IDK, maybe add Prometheus boosters? \(0-0)/ that sounds unrealistic.... but also 20 times cooler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Rory Yammomoto said: that sounds unrealistic.... but also 20 times cooler! Not really. Strapping Titan UA120x's to Saturns was a common proposal, especially for the lower end of the launcher family. (Most Saturn V growth variants show 260in solids, or big LRBs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidy12 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 @CobaltWolf: Will the 260s be a 3.75m Diameter? (IE: Saturn INT-05) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just now, davidy12 said: @CobaltWolf: Will the 260s be a 3.75m Diameter? (IE: Saturn INT-05) Yes. Likely both length variants. @VenomousRequiem already did a rough model for them IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidy12 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Two variants? EDIT: OH!!! There were two variations of it. That would explain why they cut it in half for the Saturn INT-05 Edited September 20, 2016 by davidy12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomousRequiem Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, davidy12 said: @CobaltWolf: Will the 260s be a 3.75m Diameter? (IE: Saturn INT-05) 8 minutes ago, CobaltWolf said: Yes. Likely both length variants. @VenomousRequiem already did a rough model for them IIRC. Yes sir I did, and yes they're 3.75m in diameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just now, VenomousRequiem said: Yes sir I did, and yes they're 3.75m in diameter. pics or leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbal01 Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Saturn INT-D(Saturn 1B, stretched first stage, 4x UA1205) works well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomousRequiem Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 3 hours ago, CobaltWolf said: pics or leave fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltWolf Posted September 20, 2016 Author Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 minute ago, VenomousRequiem said: fine Nice! I looked at some pics of it just now, I'm not sure what I'm looking at. It *seems* like the casing (with the propellant) and the nozzle were transported separately... Maybe @TimothyC can help? Or even @MKSheppard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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